Hi Everyone,
Anyway, ive recently completed my first cycle:
Dbol = 20mgs/d - 2 weeks; then 40mgs/d - 2 weeks
Test E = 500 p/w - 12 weeks
Winstrol started in the 7th - 10th week (2 weeks = 30mgs/day, 2 weeks = 40mgs/day)
Nolvadex used 10mg/ED for 6 weeks during cycle to minimize sides
PCT
HCG = 2000ius day 1, 1000ius day 3, 500ius day 6
1000ius day 8, 500ius day 12, 250ius day 14, 250ius day 18 ..end
Arimidex = 1.25mgs EOD for a week, 0.5mgs EOD for a week, 0.25 EOD for a week and finaly 0.25 Every 3rd say for a week...end
from 1st day of PCT:
Nolvadex = 60mgs on day 1, there after 40mgs ED for 10 days, 20mgs ED for 10 days, 10mgs EOD for 10 days
Clomid = 300mgs on day 1, there after 50mgs for 10 days, 50mgs for 10 days, 20mgs EOD for 10 days.
Also took Tribulus Terestus near the end of PCT, Vitamin B-Complex for 3 weeks.
Now i know my PCT is a bit extreme but i was hoping to minimise crashing and wanted to retain most of my gains. I had very impressive gains. Went from 79kg up until 90kg at my peak...during cutting phase i dropped down to around 87/88kg. The problem now is that since im off everything ...ive gone down to 84kg ...and seems like ive lost most of my gains.
prior to starting the cycle - when ever i trained hard it seemed as if my balls would get smaller ...probably from the testosterone i use up. I have been training naturally for many years. Anyway, i think this partly contributes to why ive lost most of my gains as probably (and im speculating now) my natural testosterone was low to start with and after coming off everthing even though i tried my best to keep my gains, with my initially low natural testosterone to start with, it didnt help with keeping the gains.
So my question is, how do i get my natural testosterone up (should I run another course of HCG or perhaps proviron?), and secondly my next cycle im thinking of running:
Primobolan for 10 weeks, with Dbol for 6 weeks, with maybe Anavar for the final 4 weeks.
Then do more a clomid, hcg PCT, and only use nolva if I feel im getting sides.
Thoughts and advice from the more senior guys would be preferable.
Thanks
John
Anyway, ive recently completed my first cycle:
Dbol = 20mgs/d - 2 weeks; then 40mgs/d - 2 weeks
Test E = 500 p/w - 12 weeks
Winstrol started in the 7th - 10th week (2 weeks = 30mgs/day, 2 weeks = 40mgs/day)
Nolvadex used 10mg/ED for 6 weeks during cycle to minimize sides
PCT
HCG = 2000ius day 1, 1000ius day 3, 500ius day 6
1000ius day 8, 500ius day 12, 250ius day 14, 250ius day 18 ..end
Arimidex = 1.25mgs EOD for a week, 0.5mgs EOD for a week, 0.25 EOD for a week and finaly 0.25 Every 3rd say for a week...end
from 1st day of PCT:
Nolvadex = 60mgs on day 1, there after 40mgs ED for 10 days, 20mgs ED for 10 days, 10mgs EOD for 10 days
Clomid = 300mgs on day 1, there after 50mgs for 10 days, 50mgs for 10 days, 20mgs EOD for 10 days.
Also took Tribulus Terestus near the end of PCT, Vitamin B-Complex for 3 weeks.
Now i know my PCT is a bit extreme but i was hoping to minimise crashing and wanted to retain most of my gains. I had very impressive gains. Went from 79kg up until 90kg at my peak...during cutting phase i dropped down to around 87/88kg. The problem now is that since im off everything ...ive gone down to 84kg ...and seems like ive lost most of my gains.
prior to starting the cycle - when ever i trained hard it seemed as if my balls would get smaller ...probably from the testosterone i use up. I have been training naturally for many years. Anyway, i think this partly contributes to why ive lost most of my gains as probably (and im speculating now) my natural testosterone was low to start with and after coming off everthing even though i tried my best to keep my gains, with my initially low natural testosterone to start with, it didnt help with keeping the gains.
So my question is, how do i get my natural testosterone up (should I run another course of HCG or perhaps proviron?), and secondly my next cycle im thinking of running:
Primobolan for 10 weeks, with Dbol for 6 weeks, with maybe Anavar for the final 4 weeks.
Then do more a clomid, hcg PCT, and only use nolva if I feel im getting sides.
Thoughts and advice from the more senior guys would be preferable.
Thanks
John