Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Currently about to start week 4 of my first cycle... and having some issues. My cycle is test e 500mg a week separated into 2 shots monday and thursday, and i started hcg at 250iu x2 a week on this past monday which would of been the start of week 3. Ive been taking .5mg liquidex eod since the start of the cycle, and problems only started recently(specifically right after the start of hcg). Now, whether this is due to the test starting to finally kick in, or the hcg... or a combination of both, im having issues with bloating and now enlargement of previous gyno that ive had since puberty. I even tried upping the dosage of liquidex to .5 ed... not doing a thing to the bloat. I started 40mg of nolva yesterday and it relieved the tingling in my nipples but they still appear swollen and the glands feel slightly larger than they previously were. And today the tingling returned again so i took another dose of 40mg nolva today to relieve it... still swollen however and still really bloated at .5 dex ed. Im ordering some liquid letro right now because the liqudex isnt doing anything for me... but just looking for some recommendations on how to proceed. Any suggestions are welcome
first cycle problems, need advice please
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Ok man there's a few things for you to consider.
1, if you had puberty onset gyno you may just be one of then extremely sensitive people that needs an extremely strong a.i.
2, being this is your first cycle I'm assuming that you are not rock solid on sources, so your adex might be bunk.
3,nolva is sight specific (your nips) so it is the right choice in this case but it will not remove excess estrogen throughout your entire body.
So my advice is run the nolv at 40 like you are for 7-10 days then (after symptoms are gone)drop down to a maintenance dose of 10-20mg for the rest of the cycle.
Now that is just for the gyno you still have to address the bloat and the water retention separately by blocking the body from being able to aromatize the test into estrogen with an (a.i. aromatize inhibitor).
So like I said above you are either extremely sensitive and need a stronger a.i. or you need a better source for your cycle accessories.
Hope this helps, good luck.
1, if you had puberty onset gyno you may just be one of then extremely sensitive people that needs an extremely strong a.i.
2, being this is your first cycle I'm assuming that you are not rock solid on sources, so your adex might be bunk.
3,nolva is sight specific (your nips) so it is the right choice in this case but it will not remove excess estrogen throughout your entire body.
So my advice is run the nolv at 40 like you are for 7-10 days then (after symptoms are gone)drop down to a maintenance dose of 10-20mg for the rest of the cycle.
Now that is just for the gyno you still have to address the bloat and the water retention separately by blocking the body from being able to aromatize the test into estrogen with an (a.i. aromatize inhibitor).
So like I said above you are either extremely sensitive and need a stronger a.i. or you need a better source for your cycle accessories.
Hope this helps, good luck.
you need some adex or letro, but letro maybe slight over kill, you will have some bloating you should have already been prepared for this, whats your stats? you dont just run the nolva for 1 day then stop you run it continuously 20mg for 10 days 10mg for 10 days, as stated above this will block estrogen attaching to the receptors of the nipples but will do nothing for bloating or reducing estrogen, so get some adex and crack on, next time id be more prepared especially if you have pre existing gyno
as i stated before im already on liquidex at .5mg ED... all ancillaries are from chemicalneed so i dont think anyone on these boards would argue the quality. I have letro ordered and it hopefully arrives later in the week... until then i think ill keep the nolva at 40 and continue with the liquidex... hell i even tried 1mg last night it seems like a few hours before its time for my next dose of nolva(have taken it around 2 each day), thats when the tingling and sensitivity returns in my nipples. But im just gonna kick the dex back to .5 ed since it didnt make a difference and run it alongside the nolva until my letro gets here. When i get the letro ill probably drop the dex and continue with the nolva until i get the bloat and gyno issues under control with the letro. If this works out then ill just continue the cycle with letro at a low dose since liqudex is proving to be useless
well an update... throughout some of sunday and all day monday... i realized that my gyno symptoms had subsided... the glands appeared to return to their original size, and the bloat went down.. Now bear in mind... im also running 1mg liquidex ED and 40mg nolva ED, but this is making me suspect that it is mainly the hcg causing my problems. I do my hcg shots tuesday and friday... and i just did another so ill confirm this and see if my symptoms return. either way.... letro is in the mail for safe measures. But my question is this... if i confirm that it is the hcg causing my problems.... should i continue to use it and try to combat the sides with letro or should i just drop the hcg and continue the cycle without it? Thanks
I dont use hcg during cycle on in pct. I have also never had an issue with gyno either. I can easily get by with. 5 adex every 3 rd day. So maybe the hcg brought it on maybe not. Everyone responds differently to drugs try cutting out hcg and using adex at. 5 day and keep letro close by.
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