First cycle PCT help

[Mr New]

Alright, so i've decided to do my first cycle of steriods but I'm needing some help with my PCT. I have been lurking for awhile now, reading all the stickies so I can do things right and not sound like a total jackass.

Here are my stats; Age: 19, Wt: 180, Ht: 5'7 Bf: around 18-19. I have ran no previous cycles of anything, I have been natty up until now. Well I've been natty bulking for 5 or 6 months now and bulked up from 150 to 180 and decided the best way to keep my muscle gains and maybe build a little more was this route.

Here's the cycle I plan on running; Prop/Winstrol @ an 8 week cycle

Prop @ 400mgs a week
Oral Winstrol @ 50 mgs ED

Alright if you guys see any problems with that cycle let me know please!

Here's the PCT I planned on using; HCgenerate, Forma Stanzol, Unleashed, and N2 guard, and maybe follow up with bridge.

HCGenerate; I know I should use this while cycling, but I don't know @ what dosage.
N2 Guard; I was wanting to use this while cycling because of the oral winstrol, but again I don't know @ what doseage.
Forma Stanzol; Will be using this to lower estrogen levels during PCT, I'll be using it @ a dosage of 10 pumps a day spread evenly through the day an night, as soon I start week 9.
Unleashed; I know I need to use this to raise T levels but again I don't really know what kind of doses to be taking and when.

Also not really sure how AI's come into play in a PCT or if I need one or already have one listed.

Thanks for all the help in advance.

 

[dudeguy]

This is a pretty basic cutting cycle but you may want to get your bf down before you start man. If its your first cycle you have so much oppurtunity to run a nice 10-12 weeker and gain a lot more but its up to you what you want to do. Running the winny ed at 50 might play hell with your joints man, I've only used it the last weeks of my cycle to "dry" up and my joints killed me. The hcgenerate can be run 3 caps am 2 pm starting around week 4 until 8. As far as unleashed they say double the dose for the first week so 3 am 3 pm run that the start of pct. You might want to consider getting arimidex and run that .25mg eod during cycle to control estro along with your forma twice a day. I'd suggest clomid for pct run that 25/25/12.5/12.5 with unleashed, formastanzol, and post cycle if you can get some

 

[Proppar]

Ur 19 bro too young for gear. Read the rules no advice to under 21

 

[DEE151]

you need to pick up some clomid, I have a hart time believing that supplements can bring your test back after a cycle. its just hard to believe cause even run you run hcg clom and nolva your levels are still not that close to were they were before. but for this cycle i would just pick up 2 bottles of clom from chemicalneed they are on sale as well.

 

[Keith1]

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See which one comes out cheapest. GWP has some quality shit for sure

 

[Mr New]

Ur 19 bro too young for gear. Read the rules no advice to under 21

Bout to turn 20 in a few months, and I've had x-rays. My growth plates are closed, so not worried about stunting my growth.

you need to pick up some clomid, I have a hart time believing that supplements can bring your test back after a cycle. its just hard to believe cause even run you run hcg clom and nolva your levels are still not that close to were they were before. but for this cycle i would just pick up 2 bottles of clom from chemicalneed they are on sale as well.

Al i've been hearing is good things about unleashed, and I've read needto's post on Nova. I don't think I'll be running Nova ever, and from what I understand clomid is just a milder form of nova.

 

[liffalot]

Bout to turn 20 in a few months, and I've had x-rays. My growth plates are closed, so not worried about stunting my growth.

The problem isnt your growth plates the problem is that your body is making enough natural hormones and you'll only be fucking yourself over starting so young. Not to mention your bodyfat is way too high to get the best effects possible from a cycle.

I'll tell you what I always tell younger guys that come on here - just stay away from roids for a couple more years, play around with research chemicals and supps first. You don't need artificial test - your test levels naturally are about the same as a 30-40 year old man while on mild test cycles.

Try some Sarmssearch SARMS - a small step down from AAS and much safer for your age group.......try peptides as well.

 

[Mr New]

The problem isnt your growth plates the problem is that your body is making enough natural hormones and you'll only be fucking yourself over starting so young. Not to mention your bodyfat is way too high to get the best effects possible from a cycle.

I'll tell you what I always tell younger guys that come on here - just stay away from roids for a couple more years, play around with research chemicals and supps first. You don't need artificial test - your test levels naturally are about the same as a 30-40 year old man while on mild test cycles.

Try some Sarmssearch SARMS - a small step down from AAS and much safer for your age group.......try peptides as well.

Alright, thanks for the reply brotha.

I'll definitely look into Sarms and peptides. I wanna get a grasp on everything an explore all my options before starting anything.

 

[muscleaddiction]

Alright, so i've decided to do my first cycle of steriods but I'm needing some help with my PCT. I have been lurking for awhile now, reading all the stickies so I can do things right and not sound like a total jackass.

Here are my stats; Age: 19, Wt: 180, Ht: 5'7 Bf: around 18-19. I have ran no previous cycles of anything, I have been natty up until now. Well I've been natty bulking for 5 or 6 months now and bulked up from 150 to 180 and decided the best way to keep my muscle gains and maybe build a little more was this route.

Here's the cycle I plan on running; Prop/Winstrol @ an 8 week cycle

Prop @ 400mgs a week
Oral Winstrol @ 50 mgs ED

Alright if you guys see any problems with that cycle let me know please!

Here's the PCT I planned on using; HCgenerate, Forma Stanzol, Unleashed, and N2 guard, and maybe follow up with bridge.

HCGenerate; I know I should use this while cycling, but I don't know @ what dosage.
N2 Guard; I was wanting to use this while cycling because of the oral winstrol, but again I don't know @ what doseage.
Forma Stanzol; Will be using this to lower estrogen levels during PCT, I'll be using it @ a dosage of 10 pumps a day spread evenly through the day an night, as soon I start week 9.
Unleashed; I know I need to use this to raise T levels but again I don't really know what kind of doses to be taking and when.

Also not really sure how AI's come into play in a PCT or if I need one or already have one listed.

Thanks for all the help in advance.

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[dylangemelli]

why in the fuck are all you guys giving info to a 19 year old? every single one of you giving advice to him is in the wrong big time... this shit is ridiculous!