First cycle on test

[spacedog]

Hey you guys,

I was wondering what you guys think about this as a first cycle. I've been doing a lot of research, but now I need to fine-tune it and ask some expert advice.

I currently have 2 vials of test en 2 vials of deca (200mg/ml). I've decided to drop the deca because most people seem to agree that a first cycle should be test only. Mixing up compounds is shooting blindly according to most sources I've consulted.

Basically I'm thinking:

Week 1-10: 400 mg test
Week 12-16: 20-20-20-20 proviron and 50 - 25 - 25 - 25 clomed

or I could order another test vial and

Week 1 - 12: 500 mg test
Week 14 - 18: 20-20-20-20 proviron and 50 - 25 - 25 - 25 clomed

I realize the PCT is a bit on the weak side, but clomed is hard to come by here.

Concerning an AI: do you think it's necessary to use arimidex on week 3 and into my PCT?

Thanks guys...like I said, just doing my research before I act.

 

[RADAR]

Stats first before any advice

Age
Weight
Height
BF
Training history

 

[spacedog]

of course, where are my manners ;-)

1m75 (5'9)
73 kilos (160 lbs)
age: 28

bodyfat: 8%-9%

ex running athlete,

been powertraining for 3 years

 

[dylangemelli]

good choice in dropping the deca... that is definitely not something to run as a first cycle...

your pct is terrible though... you can run a low dose of comid but you need much more... run your clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5, then add unleashed and forged pct... i always run need2slin and lean xtreme in my pct's but thats up to you... you at least need the unleashed and forged pct...

 

[spacedog]

hm I wasn't aware that the clomed/proviron combo was that terrible.

How about simply adding an AI to the cycle?

 

[dylangemelli]

bro your not supposed to run proviron in your pct... if your going to run it, you run it with your test...

Testosterone and Proviron are a very nice synergistic stack, pretty nearly an "ideal" stack of an oral and injectible, because both drugs will actually act to enhance the effect of the other. So what we have here is a steroid which can basically make other steroids more effective by preventing their conversion into estrogen, as well as increasing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body. This of course all provides a more hardened and quality look to muscles. Proviron is very much a "synergistic" drug in this respect, and its inclusion in any cycle would definitely make all of the other steroids perform better, and provide better gains. This is all compounded by the fact that proviron is a very lipolytic (fat-burning) drug.

 

[dylangemelli]

simply adding an AI to your cycle doesn't change the fact you need a proper PCT to recover man....

 

[spacedog]

Sorry I mistyped, I meant tamoxifen (nolva) and not "proviron"!! :-$

 

[dylangemelli]

okay... well nolva is shit... garbage... so like i said earlier, run your low dose of clomid with unleashed and forged pct...

 

[spacedog]

Any recommended site where I can buy forged PCT? What about dosage?