First Cycle... Need good advice!!!

[beenieman]

BTW-if your bod is sensitive to Rx, juicing may not be right for you. Different people experience different side effects at different times, and some people tolerate them better than others. You won't know these things until you are on a few weeks. So by running a low-to moderate dose of a single compound like test for a longer period of time may be your best bet for your 1st run..

This is a great suggestion. I'm 34, 190 lbs (when I started 3 weeks ago) and my diet and rest are spot on and I'm running 380 mg's of sust per week. I'm already seeing gains and glad to have backed off the deca stack originally. Listen to bro's like needto, mac and hyp and you'll do fine. Keep it with one compound to minimize and monitor any and all sides... Low dose for the first run is key... best of luck bro! ENJOY...

 

[hyp1]

Thanks Guys!!!
Few more questions...
If I run a test only cycle for lets say 8 weeks what kind of PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - would I do??? PLEASE give details. I have read so many different things. I like to keep things simple and easy to control.
Also what kind of different testosterones would be good for a first cycle and why?
THANKS THANKS THANKS
BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya teabag the floor!

I would run it for 12 weeks bro @250mgs a week to see how you react to the testosterone,if you experience water retention use arimidex @.25mgs up to .5mgs a day if you're experience quite a bit of bloating.for your first cycle I don't recommend you 'kickstarting it with dianabol,see how you do with one compound for your first cycle.

for post cycle therapy run dermacrine sustain for 30 days it depends what type of testosterone you're running that determines the amount of time you should wait before starting (the dermacrine sustain)after your last injection-Testosterone Cypionate is 12 days for Testosterone Enanthate it's 10.5 days.

if your nuts shrink up and you feel shut down...........run HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - @500iu's for 10 days straight and that should bring them back to size,right after your last injection.

best of luck to you

 

[Skinnyarms]

Stick with the prop, you will see gains from it faster and if you experience any side effects from it you can discontinue and it will be out of your system alot faster, I am very sensitive to drugs myself, and can level with you, the problem some find with test E is it takes a while for the blood concentrations to reach a efficient peak and by that time you may be experiencing some serious side effects, dont make your first cycle your most unpleasant one, BTW I am NOT Vince Gironda

 

[BigCracker]

Stick with the testosterone propionate, you will see gains from it faster and if you experience any side effects from it you can discontinue and it will be out of your system alot faster, I am very sensitive to drugs myself, and can level with you, the problem some find with testosterone enanthate is it takes a while for the blood concentrations to reach a efficient peak and by that time you may be experiencing some serious side effects, dont make your first cycle your most unpleasant one, BTW I am NOT Vince Gironda

I respectfully disagree. The extra injections needed to keep blood levels stable with Prop will increase the risks of an abcess. All things considered, like being new to AS, inexperienced w/ giving injections, etc is not the time to play human pin cushion.

I think it's safe to say the most immediate health risk involved using AS is getting an abcess. Abcesses can lead to Staph which if left untreated too long could mean the loss of a limb, a chunk of your ass, or in extreme cases, death.

If you did a search of past threads for guys having any type of health probs resulting from AS use that required medical attention, I think abcesses would be ranked number 1.

 

[xrsist]

go for testosterone cypionate at 250mgs to 500mgs for a first for 10-12 weeks if your worried about bloat use Arimidex - anastrozole - at 0.25mgs a day , also you can front load with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at 25-30mgs for the first 4 weeks untill the test kicks in, you can also run 500iu of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - every 5 days for PCT - post cycle therapy - followed by Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - at 20mgs per day

good luck

no no no its a first cycle people, no need for more than one compound

 

[BigCracker]

no no no its a first cycle people, no need for more than one compound

No shit! What happened to crawl before you can walk. Walk before you can run..?

 

[xrsist]

No shit! What happened to crawl before you can walk. Walk before you can run..?

these cunts wanna get up and sprint before they can crawl

 

[njmuscleguy]

BigCracker, gotta say I'm impressed with the kind, gentle advice you're giving here.... I was ready for a thrashing! Must be getting soft in your old(er) age? Excellent advice though.... wouldn't have said anything different.

Also, for those recommending 12-week cycles for a first-timer....don't. No need for a 12-week cycle.... an 8-week cycle will do nicely at a low to moderate dosage of test.... 10 weeks maximum. Especially for this guy who is a self-proclaimed easy gainer. Keep the cycle short, simple, and light.... P C T and recovery will be a breeze. He won't need H C G, he may or may not need an A I (but always good to have on hand)... light dosage of either clomid or nolva if he so chooses for P C T - or the more natural route, Derma Sustain.

 

[hyp1]

BigCracker, gotta say I'm impressed with the kind, gentle advice you're giving here.... I was ready for a thrashing! Must be getting soft in your old(er) age? Excellent advice though.... wouldn't have said anything different.

Also, for those recommending 12-week cycles for a first-timer....don't. No need for a 12-week cycle.... an 8-week cycle will do nicely at a low to moderate dosage of test.... 10 weeks maximum. Especially for this guy who is a self-proclaimed easy gainer. Keep the cycle short, simple, and light.... P C T and recovery will be a breeze. He won't need H C G, he may or may not need an A I (but always good to have on hand)... light dosage of either clomid or Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - if he so chooses for P C T - or the more natural route, Derma Sustain.

I don't see any reason not to run a 12 weeker for a first cycle if he does proper post cycle therapy....and also you don't know if he's prone to being shut down easily or not,so you can't honestly say that he won't need H C G............that's precisely why I said

if your nuts shrink up and you feel shut down...........run HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - @500iu's for 10 days straight and that should bring them back to size,right after your last injection.

 

[Skinnyarms]

I respectfully disagree. The extra injections needed to keep blood levels stable with testosterone propionate will increase the risks of an abcess. All things considered, like being new to AS, inexperienced w/ giving injections, etc is not the time to play human pin cushion.

I think it's safe to say the most immediate health risk involved using AS is getting an abcess. Abcesses can lead to Staph which if left untreated too long could mean the loss of a limb, a chunk of your ass, or in extreme cases, death.

If you did a search of past threads for guys having any type of health probs resulting from AS use that required medical attention, I think abcesses would be ranked number 1.

What happened to the usual "Don't be a pussy man!, pin up or don't pin at all" for all we know he has been shooting IGF intramuscularly for the last 6 yrs and besides I believe his issue was about sideffects and not improper sanitation.