First Cycle... Need good advice!!!

[BigGuyPHX]

Need help guys...
I'm 35 5' 10'' 215 pound EASY gainer.
Lean but not shredded.
I train HARD 6 weeks on and 1 week off.
Diet 300 to 400gm of protien a day. 6 to 8 meals of GOOD bodybuilding foods. My diet is perfect for mass building. Sleep 8 hours avg. Drink gallon+ water per day.

After doing my homework I think the right cycle for my goals would be 50mg trenbolone ED and 50mg testosterone propionate ED.
I think running with low levels on my first cycle would be a good idea. My body tends to be SUPER sensitive to ANY kind of meds and I believe I sould see solid results in a 6 week cycle.

Questions...

What other meds do I NEED to stack if any during 6 week cycle?

What is the needed meds and time for PCT?(Please outline in detail)

I am 100% natural to date 18" arms good full body balance. Also my last 6 week training cycle was great with NICE gains. I feel like an animal! I want to go to next level.. PLEASE HELP.

I have looked on several forums and got a lox of mixed info??????? You guys by far sound like you got the RIGHT info I need and TRUST.

Thanks
BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya teabag the floor!!!

 

[jimmy04]

I dont know if id run tren as a 1st cycle bro but w8 and see what some of the other bro's think.

 

[GarrisX]

for first cycle, just going with test for 12 weeks at 500 mg ew would be great

 

[BigCracker]

Bad idea for tren and prop. Sure they'll meet your needs as far as what you're looking for, but I think they are not the best choice for a 1st run for a number of reasons. Also, a 6 weeker of low doses of these compounds is not a good choice either. I could probably write a small novel explaining why I feel this way, but I'm kinda in a hurry right now. Let's just say I think you'd be better off running 200-400 mgs/week of test cyp or test enan for 8-10 wks followed by pct.


Now if you're looking for the right info from people you can trust, I don't know if you can find that anywhere consistenly. Guy's younger than us are taking 1 gram of test + weekly on their 1st run, which I feel is way too much. Then again, our age group knows what it's like to have to do research without the option of using the internet. A little time and effort is not that big of a deal to us. But for the younger generations, that's just too much like work and waiting for anything worthwhile isn't tolerable-so upping the dose is easier-just like using google online. Hell, even that's too much like work for some which is obvious when newb 16 yr olds come here that haven't done anything more than bench press a few times in their lives. Suddenly they want to run dbol pillz only cuz they're skeeeered of needlez. After getting flamed into oblivion by multiple EF Members, there will likely be one idiot that tells him dbol only is great for a 16 yr old that's never trained before or knows anything about diet. This is the guy the newb will listen to-as he's probably on his 6th or 7th day of dbol only already anyway.

BTW-if your bod is sensitive to Rx, juicing may not be right for you. Different people experience different side effects at different times, and some people tolerate them better than others. You won't know these things until you are on a few weeks. So by running a low-to moderate dose of a single compound like test for a longer period of time may be your best bet for your 1st run..

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

Big C always throws down...great points...for me tren was one of the last compounds i ever got to fuckin around with...I would say masteron is a step down imho

 

[hyp1]

I agree with bigcracker,a low dose of testosterone cypionate (@250mgs a week)to see how your body responds would be best for a 1st cycle.also being new to cycles in general the frequent injections with the trenbolone and testosternone propionate are going to be a bitch for you.

followed by a proper post cycle therapy you should be able to keep most if not all of your gains.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Thanks Guys!!!
Few more questions...
If I run a test only cycle for lets say 8 weeks what kind of PCT would I do??? PLEASE give details. I have read so many different things. I like to keep things simple and easy to control.
Also what kind of different testosterones would be good for a first cycle and why?
THANKS THANKS THANKS
BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya teabag the floor!

 

[advanced-stealth]

Good reply bc.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

go for test c at 250mgs to 500mgs for a first for 10-12 weeks if your worried about bloat use adex at 0.25mgs a day , also you can front load with dbol at 25-30mgs for the first 4 weeks untill the test kicks in, you can also run 500iu of hcg every 5 days for pct followed by nolva at 20mgs per day

good luck

 

[macemj]

Need help guys...
I'm 35 5' 10'' 215 pound EASY gainer.
Lean but not shredded.
I train HARD 6 weeks on and 1 week off.
Diet 300 to 400gm of protien a day. 6 to 8 meals of GOOD bodybuilding foods. My diet is perfect for mass building. Sleep 8 hours avg. Drink gallon+ water per day.

After doing my homework I think the right cycle for my goals would be 50mg trenbolone ED and 50mg testosterone propionate ED.
I think running with low levels on my first cycle would be a good idea. My body tends to be SUPER sensitive to ANY kind of meds and I believe I sould see solid results in a 6 week cycle.

Questions...

What other meds do I NEED to stack if any during 6 week cycle?

What is the needed meds and time for PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ?(Please outline in detail)

I am 100% natural to date 18" arms good full body balance. Also my last 6 week training cycle was great with NICE gains. I feel like an animal! I want to go to next level.. PLEASE HELP.

I have looked on several forums and got a lox of mixed info??????? You guys by far sound like you got the RIGHT info I need and TRUST.

Thanks
BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya teabag the floor!!!

At your size and weight I would shoot for LOW test 250 of a long ester like enanthate for 12 weeks....stop being a pussy. Next, I would get some Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - for those old 35 yr old joints, lol ,300 mg/wk for 12 weeks.

Get some liquidex and your all set. POST A PIC. Much easier.