first cycle input

[HaRdBeAsT_3]

Hey everyone, been around this forum for awhile now just absorbing everything and trying to learn as much as I can, I was wonderin if you guys could give my some input on this cycle I plan on running in january

week 1-3: 30 mg D-Bol
week 1-10: 500 mg Sustanon
week 1-10: 400 mg Equipoise
week 13-15: clomid
liquidex: week 1-15 .25ml ED

Stats, 6'0" 187lbs 7-8% bf
looking for about 15-20lbs and good strength increase

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

pretty much sounds like my first. i'd run the dbol to week 5 though personally....but everything else looks good.

 

[RipDsel]

U should definately see good results bro, just keep the diet in check and u'll be fine..sounds like u have done ur research tho so i'm sure u know all that. what brands r u using?

 

[goliath.jr]

looks good bro. have fun, be safe, and keep us updated. good luck!

 

[Canuck4]

Looks good.
I agree with extending the Dbol to week 5.

 

[lawnsaver]

I would not take orals yet! Take the oils and clomid with a-dex. You will be more than happy. Use the d-bol when the oils alone arent producing the gains you want. Make small moves in the Iron Game. The faster you move the easier it is for your body to reject it! I like moderate doses, which will yeild smaller, but gains of much better quality. My buddy only does EQ or Primo at 4-600mg a week for 8-10 weeks. He puts on a solid, and I mean solid 5lbs a year that he maintains with ease. Making 20 to 30 lbs jumps will only result in you trying to eat enough cals when you come off to try and maintain the new muscle. Once you pass your genetic limits your body makes to come back to normal. Unless you consistently eat like you are supposed to weigh 20lbs heavier, you will lose the new muscle and the money you just worker so hard to gain. Just my thoughts on cycling.

 

[SmooThy5464]

as always i agree with canuck on extended the dbol to like week 5 (to last till test kiks in ) other then that u look like u r on your way goodluck bro...

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

I would not take orals yet! Take the oils and clomid with a-dex. You will be more than happy. Use the d-bol when the oils alone arent producing the gains you want. Make small moves in the Iron Game. The faster you move the easier it is for your body to reject it! I like moderate doses, which will yeild smaller, but gains of much better quality. My buddy only does EQ or Primo at 4-600mg a week for 8-10 weeks. He puts on a solid, and I mean solid 5lbs a year that he maintains with ease. Making 20 to 30 lbs jumps will only result in you trying to eat enough cals when you come off to try and maintain the new muscle. Once you pass your genetic limits your body makes to come back to normal. Unless you consistently eat like you are supposed to weigh 20lbs heavier, you will lose the new muscle and the money you just worker so hard to gain. Just my thoughts on cycling.

i myself am looking to add smaller amounts of muscle weight, as opposed to the usual "bulk-up". but i think the orals have their place, used along with arimidex to keep the water/fat gains down. since he (and myself) aren't very heavy for our heights.....adding 10-15 lbs would be of benefit i think. if your gonna do it, may as well go for it your first few cycles.

 

[lawnsaver]

There are 2 mentalities in the Iron Game...Just go for it, or take it slow.

Personally I used 200mg of primo a week and 50mg of winny EOD for 6 weeks ans I gained 22lbs. So if I did the above mentioned cycle, would I have gained 45lbs?? NO WAY!!

In your first cycle see how you respond to gear! Also its a training session in diet. If you dont learn early how important diet is, you wont reach your goals.

I would only do 250mg of test and 400mg of EQ for a first cycle, but thats me. He will gain 20-25lbs no matter what!!

I use orals no, but I didnt use them until my 6th cycle. This is just one mans opinion!

I say lower your doses and leave the orals to later and focus on training, maintaining a strict diet, and coming off correctly, which means not only cloid, but maintaining your diet to keep your gains.

You have to learn how to walk before your run!

 

[HaRdBeAsT_3]

thanks for the input guys...i was just thinking of using the d-bol the first 3 weeks because i've heard that the Sustanon and Eq don't kick in until week 3...i've heard of frontloading but i don't wanna touch 1000mg of test a week on my first cycle for the frontload

 

[lawnsaver]

I always gain in my first three weeks! You dont need d-bol yet! You will be fine! Focus on your food intake and dont over train!!

 

[maxellyz]

Hey everyone, been around this forum for awhile now just absorbing everything and trying to learn as much as I can, I was wonderin if you guys could give my some input on this cycle I plan on running in january

week 1-3: 30 mg D-Bol
week 1-10: 500 mg Sustanon
week 1-10: 400 mg Equipoise
week 13-15: clomid
liquidex: week 1-15 .25ml ED

Stats, 6'0" 187lbs 7-8% bf
looking for about 15-20lbs and good strength increase

Looks good but imo u will do fine with just 500mg sust/w for 8-10 w as a first cycle, u could use this as a second cycle, anyway if u go with this i would do the dbol for 4 weeks...

Good Luck bro

-MAX

 

[HaRdBeAsT_3]

lawnsaver thanks for the advice....it makes sense why take the
d-bol yet...i should wait and see how my body reacts with just the 2 drugs and maybe save the d-bol for future cycles....i think i should focus more on my diet and hopefully i grow on the eq and test

 

[Texas Ranger]

HardBeast, Lawnsaver is right. Focus on nutrition and recuperation more so than the Gear. With your stats(6'0" 187lbs, 8%bf), I think you would do GREAT with just Test Enanthate@500mgs for 10 weeks with [email protected] EOD throughout and post cycle with Clomid/Clen. 15-20lbs doesn't seem out of reach.

 

[serge]

Hey everyone, been around this forum for awhile now just absorbing everything and trying to learn as much as I can, I was wonderin if you guys could give my some input on this cycle I plan on running in january

week 1-3: 30 mg D-Bol
week 1-10: 500 mg Sustanon
week 1-10: 400 mg Equipoise
week 13-15: clomid
liquidex: week 1-15 .25ml ED

Stats, 6'0" 187lbs 7-8% bf
looking for about 15-20lbs and good strength increase

can get away with much less on the first cycle

 

[icelandic]

Listen to lawnsaver, don't fuck around with orals for a first cycle. Arimidex alone will mess up you lipid profiles, why add a 17aa to it as well? Personally I would go no more than 400mg of test and 400mg of EQ. Also IMO, frontloading 1 gram of test for one week, is still much easier on your body than 4 or 5 weeks of dbol...

 

[peix30]

ide have to agree with smoothy and canuck goodluck man look like your heading in the right direction...