First Cycle Help

[simonmobiledisco]

OK so the stats first

Male
5'6"
31
170lbs
Bench: 240lbs
Squat: 350:
Deadlift: 450
I'm finishing a cut and just about sub10% BF
my strength potential is starting to max out as a natty (even when not on a cut).

I'm not looking looking for crazy size, us midgets look better with more respectable mass ratios

What I am looking for is steady lean gains (I'm not rushing) and better strength and recovery. My muscles handle volume well, but joints a little less so.

Diet is very good. Most of my cals come from a variety of fresh meat and veggies and natural carb sources. typical eat around 40/30/30 ratios when felt to my own devices. Not a massive junk food fan to be honest and my missus is a great cook!

Never done any meds.

Supps are pretty basic. Multi, fish oil, ZMA, creatine and whey when i am busy and can't find time to get the food in.

No history of heart problems and any other major inherittory illnesses.

I'm aim for steady gains I can keep and a first cycle that is manageable and ideally only a few (or even one) compounds excluding pct. I'm looking to minimize side effects and bloat

I was thinking just running Ananvar solo, but the more I read, just a straight test e cycle, or a low test e (250-300) stacked with anavar is a better idea.

PCT is so much debate so please add your recommendations with cycle stacks please. Thank you

 

[dylangemelli]

OK so the stats first

Male
5'6"
31
170lbs
Bench: 240lbs
Squat: 350:
Deadlift: 450
I'm finishing a cut and just about sub10% BF
my strength potential is starting to max out as a natty (even when not on a cut).

I'm not looking looking for crazy size, us midgets look better with more respectable mass ratios

What I am looking for is steady lean gains (I'm not rushing) and better strength and recovery. My muscles handle volume well, but joints a little less so.

Diet is very good. Most of my cals come from a variety of fresh meat and veggies and natural carb sources. typical eat around 40/30/30 ratios when felt to my own devices. Not a massive junk food fan to be honest and my missus is a great cook!

Never done any meds.

Supps are pretty basic. Multi, fish oil, ZMA, creatine and whey when i am busy and can't find time to get the food in.

No history of heart problems and any other major inherittory illnesses.

I'm aim for steady gains I can keep and a first cycle that is manageable and ideally only a few (or even one) compounds excluding pct. I'm looking to minimize side effects and bloat

I was thinking just running Ananvar solo, but the more I read, just a straight test e cycle, or a low test e (250-300) stacked with anavar is a better idea.

PCT is so much debate so please add your recommendations with cycle stacks please. Thank you

hey bro... i want to start off with a couple things... I commend you for the fact that you waited until you really established a nice base for yourself and put in all the effort that you did... that in itself is fucking refreshing to read... second, thanks for posting stats...

Okay... so I can definitely help you set this up... Normally I recommend just a test only cycle for a frist timer but I have no problem is you only add anavar to it as well...

You could start with a simple Test - E at 350 mg / wk... to me thats on the conservative side as I would run 500 at least but i think you should start at 350 and you can always move up... its better to go up then down...

so run it like this

1-12 Test - E 350 mg/wk
7-12 Anavar 60 mg/day (you can bump to 80 mg the last 2 weeks if you like)
1-12 N2Guard
5-12 Hcgenerate
If you want to keep bloat down then you can run aromasin 12.5 EOD...

PCT
13-16 Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
13-16 Unleashed/Post Cycle combo
13-16 Forma Stanzol
13-16 Lean xtreme

I would use creatine nitrate throughout the entire cycle... no water retention with it and good increase in muscle and strength...

This cycle will give you nice steady gains and is not too complex for a first cycle...

 

[simonmobiledisco]

hey bro... i want to start off with a couple things... I commend you for the fact that you waited until you really established a nice base for yourself and put in all the effort that you did... that in itself is fucking refreshing to read... second, thanks for posting stats...

Okay... so I can definitely help you set this up... Normally I recommend just a test only cycle for a frist timer but I have no problem is you only add anavar to it as well...

You could start with a simple Test - E at 350 mg / wk... to me thats on the conservative side as I would run 500 at least but i think you should start at 350 and you can always move up... its better to go up then down...

so run it like this

1-12 Test - E 350 mg/wk
7-12 Anavar 60 mg/day (you can bump to 80 mg the last 2 weeks if you like)
1-12 N2Guard
5-12 Hcgenerate
If you want to keep bloat down then you can run aromasin 12.5 EOD...

PCT
13-16 Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
13-16 Unleashed/Post Cycle combo
13-16 Forma Stanzol
13-16 Lean xtreme

I would use creatine nitrate throughout the entire cycle... no water retention with it and good increase in muscle and strength...

This cycle will give you nice steady gains and is not too complex for a first cycle...

thanks for the sounds advice, my only concern is that Unleashed and FS seem to be unavailable directly from the UK and there are some stories about massive cost and delays in ordering from the US. do you know alternatives that are comparable in quality for the UK. It appears each forum has its own collective preferences and makes it hard to know what iss 'best' (if there is such a thing)

ie for HCGenerate is tribulus and ZMA OK?
for FS is another AI auitable etc
I'm not sure what is comparable for unleashed.

are there decent alternatives or should i just suck it up and save for a little bit longer?