First cycle help

[Kane5]

Hi guys new to the forum but have been reading through old threads for around 6 weeks now.

My stats are as follows:

23 years old
180lb
6ft
Around 15% bf

I've been training for just under 4 years now and have hit a wall. When I started straining I was about 157lbs and through diet and hard work I have Increased in size and strength.

I have got some anavar that I want to use and although i have considered the "stronger" AAS I feel like this is the one that suits my goals the most.

My main goal is first of all in to Increase strength with as little "blowing up" as possible, now I know that most people say that test is the best AAS to run first cycle but in terms of poss side effects anavar sounds like the safest one.

Second of all I want to increase the definition of my body as opposed to gaining as much mass as possible, I would be more than happy to stay between the 180-190lb mark.

In terms of my cycle I am thinking of running one of two different options.

The first being 50mg split up into 25mg in the mourning and 25mg around 6pm, everyday for 8 weeks.
The second being exactly the same dose but over 6 weeks.

My pct will consist of post cycle and unleashed, all of which will be bought from NTBM. I will also be buying some hcgenerate to run from Around week 4 until the end of my PCT.

Now I have seen a lot of people saying that a big pct will not be necessary so do I need to use all three post cycle/unleashed/hcgenerate? Or will just hcgenerate and unleashed be ok? I will also be using creatine and milk thistle for the duration of the cycle.

Any help is appreciated guys as I know questions on anavar have been asked over and over.

 

[stevesmi]

you don't need steroids to reach the goals you just wrote.

just lift bigger and harder. and learn to eat better. 180 pounds at 6 foot I will tell you what i told the other skinny 6 footer on another thread today. you aren't eating or workout out hard enough. if you want to get bigger or stronger you need to lift bigger and stronger.

most guys at the gym i see everyday go nowhere because they lift small to stay small. doing curls for 30 minutes in front of the mirror

there is no way you have reached a plateau at 180 pounds. need to work on your diet and training.. post it up on here and lets see where we can improve

 

[Kane5]

I have been stuck at 180 with no strength increase for around 5 months now. I norma,ly change my routine every 8 weeks or so and used 5x5 to good effect and and currently doing a push pull split.

My day to day diet normally looks a little like this.

Beeakfast- breakfast porridge oats and protein shake

11am normally a big of mixed nuts or something of that kind.

Lunch is normally tuna steak and baked beans or chicken and leek, cod in butter sauce along with broccoli a or cauliflower, depending on what day.

Later afternoon snack Sugar snap peas, protein shake.

Dinner - varies between days but usually is based around chicken/beef/lamb dishes like curry, and stews. If it is fish based salmon or tuna I normally eat them with pasta.

Don't really drink alcohol and also getting a sold 7-9 hrs sleep A night

 

[stevesmi]

1. you aren't working your legs.
2. your diet is a stay small diet.

need to fix both of these things.. you don't need steroids like i said

 

[Kane5]

I am training legs I missed it off the end of the push pull lol apologies.

What would you add to the diet to bump up the protein intake, I find it particularly difficult with I between foods such brunch and between afternoon and evening meals. The sort of snack periods.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ read my bulker in my signature.

i still don't think you are working legs enough, anyone who is under weight doesn't work their legs enough

 

[GreenBastard]

roids arent the answer. creatine, glutamine, vitimins, lots of protein are the answer. train heavier and eat more. your body will grow. Var at 50mg per day for 5 or so weeks is a nice little cycle and it would probablly get you over the hump but i would hold off on that until later.

 

[Ifonly]

In my opinion bud I think you need to bump your carbs up a bit, maybe add another meal in. That should def help with strength. Powdered oats are the bollocks just add them to water or milk, nice and easy. Maybe try need2bulk, prob best mass shake there is.
Here's a meal plan I do from time to time:
6.30 powdered oats 100g
4 eggs
10.00 100g rice/pasta whole grain
150g beef/chicken
1.00 same as 10.
4.00 100g oats 25g whey shake
5.00 train
6.30 50g whey
7.30 dinner 150g beef/fish/chicken
Potatoe/pasta/rice
Some veg
9.30 need2bulk shake

Also add in mixed nuts throughout day and some times add olive oil to my shakes.

Hope this helps.

 

[Laxfiend]

Nonfat greek yogurt is the best for proyein supplrmentation. One serving has 20g of protein

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