First cycle help...

[dpc171]

First off im 6 foot 15% bf at 215 lbs. I am going to start my first cycle in a week or two and want to know if i should go Deca only or test e only. Will test e only at 250 mg/week be enough or is 500 mg/week recommended. I want to sustain a 10 week cycle also. Also when should the pct of nolva be started with the test E if i do a 10 week cycle at either 250 or 500. If I do deca should i go 300 mg/week for 10 weeks or 600 mg/week for 10 weeks?

 

[Lupercal CATS]

I have yet to start my own cycle (waiting on dbol to get here), but I think most people will tell you to do the test e for 10 weeks. I have heard to start the PCT 2 weeks after last test e shot and to do the HCG either through out your cycle or towards the end.

Someone correct me because I'm probably wrong.

 

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..you definetly don't wanna do a Deca only cycle. Will shut you down big time and you won't be able to get a stiff.

As it's a first cycle, you are better off doing 500mg a week test only cycle for 8 - 10 weeks.

If you ever run Deca, always use Test as well but at a higher dosage eg - test 500mg per week AND
400mg Deca per week

You'll probably be happy with the results of a test only cycle

Start PCT 2 weeks after your last shot.

 

[dpc171]

Is the test at 250mg a week to low??? or should I do a 500mg a week. How long does enanthate take to kick in???

 

[krishna]

If you want to start low, by means do so. I think it's better to start with lower doses so that your tolerance threshold doesn't require you to use massive doses later on. And guess what? It will work; you don't need higher doses right now. 250 mg of test e for 10 weeks; start nolva a week after your last shot. If you can, get some HCG for PCT as well.

 

[dpc171]

Thanks thats the answer i was lookin for. I will probably do a test only cycle at somewhere between 250 to 500. Thanks for the help.

 

[Tryin2grow]

250mg is low. You will get great results the first time, just like you would the first time you do anything. 500mg will give you alot better results than 250. Enanthate takes 2 weeks to get into your blood, but you will start to notice strength and size gains by week 4. You will probably peak at week 8. 500mg of test and 400mg of Deca would give a first timer some really nice gains. Maybe you should consider that. Good luck!

 

[Bruce]

i did deca only for 13 weeks 600 a week, but i don't get the dreaded deca dick, just playing devils advocate, but you should probably do test only, krishna is right too, u want to use the least amount of gear your body needs. my natural test levels are crazy so a little hcg and i am fine with deca, but test e is a great first

 

[dpc171]

I have really high natural test levels also. I will probably just do a test cycle only then 2nd cycle stack it with deca. Thanks for the help guys.

 

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Is the test at 250mg a week to low??? or should I do a 500mg a week. How long does enanthate take to kick in???

When I did my first cycle, I used Test Enanthate @ 500mg a week. You won't get double the results you would if you used 250mg or anything like that, but they will be substantially better. 500mg is still a relatively low doseage. If you get some side effect then you will get them regardless of the dosage.

Everyone is different, but I started to put weight on by the end of my second week (Also started high cal diet at begining of cycle, so that would account for some of the weight). By about week 4 people will comment on your rapid growth (providing you do everything right, not just shoot AAS), but you probably won't notice cos u look at yourself all day.

 

[dpc171]

I train 6 days a week and am on a damn strict diet as it is. So i think throwin in a cycle of gear will help substantially.

 

[krishna]

I gained 28 pounds with 250 mg for 10 weeks on my first cycle. I doubt most people who used 500 for their first cycle gained that much. Fact is, you don't need more than 250 mg for your first time, so why bother with 500?

 

[dpc171]

How much of the 28 did u keep?

 

[Bruce]

I gained 28 pounds with 250 mg for 10 weeks on my first cycle. I doubt most people who used 500 for their first cycle gained that much. Fact is, you don't need more than 250 mg for your first time, so why bother with 500?

i agree, if you need the extra just bump it up. start low,

 

[krishna]

i agree, if you need the extra just bump it up. start low,

Bruce is right! And by the way, I kept 18-20 pounds solid after I purposely trimmed some extra fat off. Started @ 200 lbs, 10-11% bf, now I hover between 218-220 @ 10% bf. Anyone will tell you that those are good gains for a 10 week cycle. I was 228 after my cycle, but some of it was bloat and fat, so I got rid of it.

 

[skrill]

If you want to start low, by means do so. I think it's better to start with lower doses so that your tolerance threshold doesn't require you to use massive doses later on....

About this tolerance threshold, how long till your tolerance threshold returns to what it was before you started AS? Is it just a matter of producing new receptors?

 

[littleb]

When I did my first cycle, I used Test Enanthate @ 500mg a week. You won't get double the results you would if you used 250mg or anything like that, but they will be substantially better. 500mg is still a relatively low doseage. If you get some side effect then you will get them regardless of the dosage.

Everyone is different, but I started to put weight on by the end of my second week (Also started high cal diet at begining of cycle, so that would account for some of the weight). By about week 4 people will comment on your rapid growth (providing you do everything right, not just shoot AAS), but you probably won't notice cos u look at yourself all day.

sorry bro, but dosage does effect sides, not trying to flame but with what you said, sides on say test e would be the same on 250mg and 1 g. granted someone who is prone to acne may get it from 250mg a week, but on a g would be much worse.

 

[krishna]

About this tolerance threshold, how long till your tolerance threshold returns to what it was before you started AS? Is it just a matter of producing new receptors?

If you keep using, it will never return to the way it was before you used gear. Why do you think a lot of people say that your first cycle is your best? It's the same for recreational drugs and other receptors.