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javid_shanghai

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Hey all. Im totally new in this site and a total noob in gears. Im 30, lifting experience is 2.5 years (bulk/cut). Body type is endo-meso. My current stats: 5'10, 171 lb, 11%bf. My minimal weight was when just started 158lb, my max weight was 194lb. My goal is to get more to close fitness model body type. Lack of motivation is forced me to think about the gear and bcoz of some people (on juice) say no way to get that type of a body without roids.. Never used any illegal drugs except clenbuterol 1.5 months ago. So now, what u experienced guys would u recomended to start with? Anyone could guide me? I dont want to get bulky, just slowly gains, 1-2 cycle a year is ok for me I think.. Id like to gain lean muscles slowly with minimal fat gains and side effect.. is it possible? Thanks
 
but im 30, and hard to gain muscles at my age.. Im not talking about skinny faggy models, im talking about shredded muscular fitness models.. Even some of them deny to use roids, but many people say they use at least some to get that level.. maybe im wrong.. Just when I think how hard to keep muscles naturally being on cut, it makes think about juicing, esp after being on clen.. get shredded with minimal muscle lose or even gain atm.
 
if your saying you lack motivation and you don't train then why in the fuck do you want to take steroids? you need to have a workout and diet that you have been consistent with for some time before you even consider running any sort of cycle...
 
Im sorry If I missed a part about workout and diet! I workout consistently 2.5 years, my diet is clean. Even If lack of motivation, im still hitting weights 3-5 times a week, no matter what..
 
Your motivated enough. People on these sites are so sensitive when it comes to anyone using steroids who isn't aspiring to be a bodybuilder. Like the steroids put them in some special club and only people that lift like branch warren are allowed to join. You have the right to do what ever you want with your body. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Good luck to ya and if ya have any questions im me. Ignore my post count I have done many cycles with many different compounds and would be happy to help someone achieve there goals.
 
melmel9 said:
Your motivated enough. People on these sites are so sensitive when it comes to anyone using steroids who isn't aspiring to be a bodybuilder. Like the steroids put them in some special club and only people that lift like branch warren are allowed to join. You have the right to do what ever you want with your body. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Good luck to ya and if ya have any questions im me. Ignore my post count I have done many cycles with many different compounds and would be happy to help someone achieve there goals.
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They are looking out for peoples health its steroids not Fucking creatine shit can completely fuck you up if its used the wrong way....

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Im not looking for rapid gains with steroids.. I just want to be like in my 18 years where test is high enough and I can gain muscles like teens.. Not complaining about my physique either, thank God I made some progress for my age and look better than av joe. Just been thinking to use 1-2 simple cycles a year to make my progress go forward year by year.. Ive been thinking to use same drug for 2-3 cycles, but it says i cant use it in row, itd be waste of money.. Anyway, let me tell u guys whats in my mind about cycles: how it looks If i run for my first cycle t-bol solo low dose (10mg a day for 6 weeks), then 12 weeks off (no PCT). Should I take anything else beside t-bol or after smtg for liver? any tips about diet/training on gear and after? Next quest, what my next cycle should be? another solo drug (as) or aas (anabolic+andro)? Thanks
 
javid_shanghai said:
Im not looking for rapid gains with steroids.. I just want to be like in my 18 years where test is high enough and I can gain muscles like teens.. Not complaining about my physique either, thank God I made some progress for my age and look better than av joe. Just been thinking to use 1-2 simple cycles a year to make my progress go forward year by year.. Ive been thinking to use same drug for 2-3 cycles, but it says i cant use it in row, itd be waste of money.. Anyway, let me tell u guys whats in my mind about cycles: how it looks If i run for my first cycle t-bol solo low dose (10mg a day for 6 weeks), then 12 weeks off (no PCT). Should I take anything else beside t-bol or after smtg for liver? any tips about diet/training on gear and after? Next quest, what my next cycle should be? another solo drug (as) or aas (anabolic+andro)? Thanks
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This is all over the place...not trying to be a Dick but you should really spend some time reading the helpful info that is on this forum. You need to understand what your actually going to be doing to your body and what your putting in it. No one is going to help you if you don't take the time to do a bit of research for yourself.

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javid_shanghai said:
Im not looking for rapid gains with steroids.. I just want to be like in my 18 years where test is high enough and I can gain muscles like teens.. Not complaining about my physique either, thank God I made some progress for my age and look better than av joe. Just been thinking to use 1-2 simple cycles a year to make my progress go forward year by year.. Ive been thinking to use same drug for 2-3 cycles, but it says i cant use it in row, itd be waste of money.. Anyway, let me tell u guys whats in my mind about cycles: how it looks If i run for my first cycle t-bol solo low dose (10mg a day for 6 weeks), then 12 weeks off (no PCT). Should I take anything else beside t-bol or after smtg for liver? any tips about diet/training on gear and after? Next quest, what my next cycle should be? another solo drug (as) or aas (anabolic+andro)? Thanks
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this is not a good idea at all... it makes absolutely no sense man...
 
I know, ur right! knowledge is power.. how it looks like:

8 week, 50mg a day t-bol, everyday liv52 (12 week), 4 week PCT nolva. Then 12 weeks total rest, and start again next cycle. No tapering t-bol, start straight with 50mg is ok?
 
javid_shanghai said:
I know, ur right! knowledge is power.. how it looks like:

8 week, 50mg a day t-bol, everyday liv52 (12 week), 4 week PCT nolva. Then 12 weeks total rest, and start again next cycle. No tapering t-bol, start straight with 50mg is ok?
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Research this is rubbish!!!

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What's your diet plan? I'm 5'10 also, but before aas I was about 200lb. After aas I'm 220lb. My point is that you probably need to fix your diet to gain weight. You can definitely add 20 lb naturally. Then after that maybe do a cycle. I'm 31 so trust me it can be hard work.

Ignore the guy telling you that this website is "sensitive to anyone not bodybuilding". That's not even close to true. People on here just do things the smart way. Aas is not always the answer. People just think its the easy way to fix problems and its not.

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ppgfreak said:
What's your diet plan? I'm 5'10 also, but before aas I was about 200lb. After aas I'm 220lb. My point is that you probably need to fix your diet to gain weight. You can definitely add 20 lb naturally. Then after that maybe do a cycle. I'm 31 so trust me it can be hard work.

Ignore the guy telling you that this website is "sensitive to anyone not bodybuilding". That's not even close to true. People on here just do things the smart way. Aas is not always the answer. People just think its the easy way to fix problems and its not.

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My diet in check always, I can gain and lose weight with no probs ( surplus or deficit ). Im not saying that I reached my limits or cant gain weight anymore, but its just hard sometimes.. Esp when I see some younger guys or guys on juice in short period of time gain muscles/lose weight while I push myself harder and longer and i get only half, and even less of their results.. U say I can add naturally 20lb? maybe in 5 years at my age? Is it possible?
 
javid_shanghai said:
My diet in check always, I can gain and lose weight with no probs ( surplus or deficit ). Im not saying that I reached my limits or cant gain weight anymore, but its just hard sometimes.. Esp when I see some younger guys or guys on juice in short period of time gain muscles/lose weight while I push myself harder and longer and i get only half, and even less of their results.. U say I can add naturally 20lb? maybe in 5 years at my age? Is it possible?
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In my opinion, YES! I do not think it will take five years though. If you eat and train right I think it will take much less.

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melmel9 said:
Your motivated enough. People on these sites are so sensitive when it comes to anyone using steroids who isn't aspiring to be a bodybuilder. Like the steroids put them in some special club and only people that lift like branch warren are allowed to join. You have the right to do what ever you want with your body. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Good luck to ya and if ya have any questions im me. Ignore my post count I have done many cycles with many different compounds and would be happy to help someone achieve there goals.
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Bullshit post. The advice given from the members was dead on.

it's also absurd when people say they want this and that. Just train motherfucker and see where you get. And then when they say they're not motivated -- well, what the fuck do you want anyone to do about THAT? Then they expect steroids to fix their problems and they can seriously fuck themselves up. Sure he has a right to do whatever he wants with his body but encouraging that is irresponsible and discouraging people who are trying to help is just stupid.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Bullshit post. The advice given from the members was dead on.

it's also absurd when people say they want this and that. Just train motherfucker and see where you get. And then when they say they're not motivated -- well, what the fuck do you want anyone to do about THAT? Then they expect steroids to fix their problems and they can seriously fuck themselves up. Sure he has a right to do whatever he wants with his body but encouraging that is irresponsible and discouraging people who are trying to help is just stupid.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^Completely agree

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