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First Cycle, Deca or not?
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Goldprospector
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Damn dude....TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hardcoregrowth
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Bro, whatever you decide to take, DO NOT ORDER IT OFF OF SOME BS WEBSITE!
You guys forgot to tell him the main thing. You cannot gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.
I think that you should do a purely cutting diet with ECA (Ephedra Caffeine Asparin stack) then move to Clenbuterol. Then you could even move on to Anavar or Winstrol.
But if you are trying to lose weight by taking Deca and eating 600g of protien, your probably going to be in a calorie surplus(condsidering only the protien is 2400 calories) which would negate any fat loss.
Lean down first Then get bigger later. Steroids with cutting will only prevent minimize muscle loss, They wont help you gain muscle on a cutting diet.
I think that you should do a purely cutting diet with ECA (Ephedra Caffeine Asparin stack) then move to Clenbuterol. Then you could even move on to Anavar or Winstrol.
But if you are trying to lose weight by taking Deca and eating 600g of protien, your probably going to be in a calorie surplus(condsidering only the protien is 2400 calories) which would negate any fat loss.
Lean down first Then get bigger later. Steroids with cutting will only prevent minimize muscle loss, They wont help you gain muscle on a cutting diet.
serbstyle1 said:
no, it IS possible... just hard to do. you won't see the maximum muscle building you would with a large calorie surplus and you won't see the maximum fat loss as you would with a strict cutting diet but it is possible to acheive some fat loss while building some muscle mass... how much fat loss and how much muscle building? depends on the persons dedication to proper diet, macronutrient ratios and timing and proper training and recuperation.
BIGNUTT said:
you said you were about 268 if i remember correctly... i would take no less than 500mg/wk (i'd recommend 750mg/wk). you will most likely not suffer any gyno symptoms, BUT it is smart to have some anti-E's on hand.(nolva and arimidex) (if you dont' use them GREAT! you'll have them for your next cycle)
what will probably bother you the most is the water retention from the testosterone which subsides when the cycle is over. if its a big problem to you taking a low dose of anti-E will help shed a lot of it. i believe you mentioned that that wasn't a problem b/c you were looking for the main results after the cycle, right? well, after the cycle the water would come off and you'd look even leaner.
IMO if you want to put on size and lose some fat then i believe test is best. test stimulates IGF production which will help with the fat loss while at the same time test is great for packing on muscle mass. if your diet/workouts are in check and you stay dedicated to your goal then you will get results.
if you do go with a test cycle, i hope you have a girl that likes sex b/c you'll have a practically insatiable appetite for it
Thanks for the help.
I am losing just fat now and I just keep going. (currently using ephedrine/and ephed. free Xynadrine) I think I am reading to use Clen.
I may keep doing just the weight loss thing , but use Clen intead of ephedrine, but I want to order Test at the same time, so I will have it when I get down a few more lbs. I will get some Nolvadex too.
I am losing just fat now and I just keep going. (currently using ephedrine/and ephed. free Xynadrine) I think I am reading to use Clen.
I may keep doing just the weight loss thing , but use Clen intead of ephedrine, but I want to order Test at the same time, so I will have it when I get down a few more lbs. I will get some Nolvadex too.
