First Cycle Critic, Please!!!

[Keg6969]

Hey Bro's I am really excited about doing my first cycle I am trying to cut up. I have a lot of natural muscle and have got the diet down to 50/40/10 Protein,carbs,fat with some cardio in the morning. Could you please tell me what you guys think about this 10 Week Cycle:

Wk 1-10: winny 200 mg (50mg mon&wed 100mg Fri)
eq 300mg (150mg mon&fri)

Wk1 Superclen( 0.5mgclen + 10mg ketotifen)80mcg/day
Wk2 Superclen 120mcg/day
wk 5-6 9-10 Superclen 160mcg/day

T-3 week: 1-25mcg
2-50mcg
3-75mcg
4-100mcg
5-100mcg
6-75mcg
7-75mcg
8-50mcg
9-25mcg
10-25mcg

Clomid: Wk 10 and 2 weeks post cycle 25mg/day
Primo: 2 weeks post cycle 100mg/wk


I saw this new superclen has anyone heard of it? What are your opinions on it?

Thanks again guys for you help !!!

 

[Gorilla68]

don't do t-3 for your first cycle. save till later, up the dosage of primo to 200-300. i would even throw in some sust in there. the new clen kicks ass too.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Does not look to bad, I would add some Test in there though, 500mg/week for 10 weeks would be great. Start your Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Eq. Take 300mg/Day for the first day then 100mg/Day for the next 6 days of that week, the next week take 50mg/Day and the final week take 50mg/every other day

M18

 

[Keg6969]

Ok Gorilla I am going to up my primo to 300mg/wk

Mustang: Why should I wait with the clomid? Have you had any side effects from Test?

 

[TxLonghorn]

You should wait on the clomid because the eq won't be out of your system until 3 weeks after your last shot. If it's still in your system when you take the clomid, you have just wasted the clomid.

 

[Keg6969]

Thanks Tx!

Anymore suggestions?

 

[TxLonghorn]

Why are your carbs so high (~40%) if you are trying to cut up? And your fat intake (~10%) looks waaay low to me.

It's up to you, but I would get better fatloss and muscle sparing from doing 33/33/33 or something. I don't get too anal about the numbers (done that, it's not worth it), but fat satiates the appetite, and lowered carbs will help with lipolysis (fat loss).

Drink a boatload of water.

No experience with clen.

You are going 10 weeks with t3 supplementation? Have you done this before? I am not going to scare you like some and say you will never ever recover, but it will take you some time to recover after that length of time. I would also cut this off after 6 weeks, tops. Also, have you done 100mcg of t3? If you have, fine. If not, don't think of that dosage as set in stone. You will certainly feel it, that's for sure, lol.

I would do the t3 in the middle of your cycle. That way the gear is kicking when you start it, and it gives you some time to recover while still on the gear.

How's that?

 

[Keg6969]

Thanks Tx,

I haven't taken T3 before. This is my first cycle ever. What do you feel like when taking T3? What did you mean about taking time to recover? Do you mean my normal Test levels? If I take it should I pyramid it?

 

[MaxBiceps]

10 weeks of winny?? Wow.
I'd say 400mgs/wk of eq, winny is fine, but save it for the last six weeks.

 

[bb4life]

don't do t-3 bro it will #uck you up if not done properly and if this is your first cycle why do it at all..

peace out

db

 

[TxLonghorn]

don't do t-3 bro it will #uck you up if not done properly and if this is your first cycle why do it at all..

peace out

db

I agree totally. Good advice.

 

[RADAR]

you will learn with experience theres alot of holes in the road and surely you're gonna hit a few!!!Good luck RADAR

 

[Ulter]

Keg, Who the heck gave you that dosing schedule for clen?
Bro you can't swallow 160mcg like that. Your heart will jump through your chest like the alien. You have the 2 weeks on at a time part right. But you need to ramp up to 8/day. Good God man that's the max dose you're taking there. Take 40 then 60,80,100 and so on until you start getting shakey. Whenever you get the shakes, that's the right dose. Don't take more.

You're winny should be taken ED to keep an even blood level. The eq is fine. Tx corrected your clomid. Primo is a waste of money, but I suppose if you already paid for it then use 300mg/wk. But I gaurantee you won't do it again.

 

[Keg6969]

Guys thanks for the imput. I think I will leave out the T3 , getting too many mixed reviews. About the Clen I will adjust so you mean start at 40 a day then keep bumping it up? How often do you bump it up? About the Primo why is it a waste? Won't it help keep my gains? Do I do it along with Clomid, if I do it?

 

[Keg6969]

Anyone else?

 

[Ulter]

If you insist on using the primo then at least wait until your finished with the clomid so you can give the clomid every chance to work for you. But I think you would be much better off spending your money on Oxandrolone.

Yes you start at 40 the next day add one then add one a day until you get shakey.
T3 is easy. I would go up by one every 4 days and then when I get to 4 for 4 days come back down one at a time the same way. So 1111,2222,3333,4444,3333,2222,1111 is how it would look if I was Mustang.

 

[Keg6969]

Ulter: Thanks for the T3 advice but how long do you cycle it? Once you come back down are you finished? When in my cycle should I start it?

 

[Ulter]

You only do it once in a six month period bro. With this cycle you can put it anywhere but don't do it without the clen. They are like peanut butter and Jelly. If I had to pick I would do it at the end when the Eq is crankin'.

 

[Keg6969]

If I am doing the clen spread two weeks apart, how can I fit in the T3 Ulcer? Anyone?

 

[Ulter]

You can't just make sure you use the clen for as much of the T3 cycle as you can bro. Use it in the middle 2 weeks of your T3.

 

[Keg6969]

My bad Ulter, I misread your post I thought you said "don't do T3 with Clen" but you said "without".

Thanks again!

 

[Keg6969]

anyone else? I am going to get my gear soon and start! I will let you all know how it's going.

 

[Keg6969]

Ulter:

What doses would you recommend for T-3 for this cycle? I am going to order 50mcg tabs.

 

[Keg6969]

Superclen 0.5mgclen + 10mg ketotifen

This is how my clen is going to come so much is in one tab? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb q, but Ulter said I should start out at 40mcg and work my way up.

Thanks!!

 

[Keg6969]

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