First Cycle: Considering Primo

[superninja23]

Hi everyone,

Long time member, but not a frequent poster! I've been doing some research for quite awhile, and I believe I know what I want to do for my first cycle - Primo.

Question is, at what dose?

My stats are 5'9", 185 lbs, 25 years old (almost 26) and about 8-9% bodyfat (based on various caliper readings). I've been training seriously and naturally for about 8 years now.

I've read all sorts of facts and figures, ranging from 300 all the way to 1200 mg/week of Primo. Consensus for a first cycle seems to be in the 300-500 range. After all I've read about this particular drug, it just seems too hard to pass up (assuming proper diet and nutrition, of course).

So the question is - what would be a good dose for someone around my size for a first cycle of Primo? Also, would 8 weeks be too little? Should I shoot (pun) for something in the range of 10-12 weeks? Reason I ask is because I've also read that Primo is best used for 10 weeks+. But does that still ring true for a beginner to AAS?

Thanks in advance for all of the help guys. Please let me know if you need any more information and I'll be glad to post it!

Cheers.

 

[ChangNam]

Bro u need minimum 400mg a week. Primo is great stuf if u get legit ger. Alot fake primo around now my friend. Wery wery hard geting legit primo. Eaven if u get 1ml/100mg amps from schearing. Kan u not guaranti u have the real deal. Because them are so good faked in thease days. And primo on 10ml vials do i not belive in. Just BUNK i gues. Remember primo is wery expensive bro. And u need alot to see or get any resolts. Lets say u have to use minimum 400mg a week for 8-10 weeks thats ok. I am in the end of my week 8 now. And i hit the wall already. Why i say this. Is because i want u to know and understand. That is does not posably give u bether gaines. From cyceling longer. My first cycles was only 6-8 weeks maximum. And i used test e at 250mg a week with Deca 400mg a week. And i did gaine alot. And i would not run the primo alone my friend. U have to stack it with some test. Just 250mg a week will be good. I recomend test e,c or sust. But if u want to be lean then i would go for test prop at maby 300mg a week. But then u have to do 100mg eod. Gues u will get them same resolts from using test prop or a Depot test. But maby u retain some more water from the Depot test. Just keap ur diet in chek.

 

[veneto82]

first cycle i ran was 250mg test prop per week with 300mg primo.
kept about 15 lbs and dropped body fat!

 

[ChangNam]

first cycle i ran was 250mg test prop per week with 300mg primo.
kept about 15 lbs and dropped body fat!

How long time ago is this. And did u use vials or amps of primo ??

 

[d_rson]

Test. A good primo run is too long for a first cycle. 8-10 weeks of test. Then next time, test and primo.

 

[Varga]

you are going to hear a lot of answers and honestly they all good but considering you are 25 your own test productin should be decent, skip the test and do
Primo at 500-600mg /week if you can afford it and stack that up with IGF-r3...30days on/30 off/30 on again.
IGF do it at 50mcg after workout split in half for each body part.So it would be 25mcg each.
Make it 12 weeks.

If I were in your shoes this would be the ideal cycle. Your recovery will be a breeze, very few sides and you can put on nice dry muscle without any water bloat or fat. You dont need an AI or anything just a middle of the road PCT at the end.

 

[ChangNam]

you are going to hear a lot of answers and honestly they all good but considering you are 25 your own test productin should be decent, skip the test and do
Primo at 500-600mg /week if you can afford it and stack that up with IGF-r3...30days on/30 off/30 on again.
IGF do it at 50mcg after workout split in half for each body part.So it would be 25mcg each.
Make it 12 weeks.

If I were in your shoes this would be the ideal cycle. Your recovery will be a breeze, very few sides and you can put on nice dry muscle without any water bloat or fat. You dont need an AI or anything just a middle of the road PCT at the end.

Bro i agree to the 500-600mg a week. but that u say no test. What are u thinking about ? Him going to have zero libido. And walk around with limp dick. Thats not cool. And to do a 12 weeks cycle for a first timer. Do i realy not agree to.

 

[Varga]

Bro i agree to the 500-600mg a week. but that u say no test. What are u thinking about ? Him going to have zero libido. And walk around with limp dick. Thats not cool. And to do a 12 weeks cycle for a first timer. Do i realy not agree to.

Honestly primo is mild and doing 12 weeks is not like doing 12 weeks of test or deca. Primo is the only steroid I suggest to use for 12 weeks as a noob
Primo might not even shut you down to the point that you have a limp dick. At 400mg a week i believe it doesnt that's my reasoning behind it. Test will shut you down a lot worse than Primo.
If he feels his sex drive going south he can use 250mg of test a week but having test with every cycle is not a must nor a necesity is mostly an individual choice.
Another reason I said 600mg of primo is because if it's underdosed a bit at least he uses 400mg.
I understand your point and you have the right to disagree but Im not giving him bad advice so relax man!

 

[thelocal]

from everythign i read if its legit primo u can run a primo alone cycle,and 12 weeks,only 2 weeks longer then 10

 

[louisiana]

Bro u need minimum 400mg a week. Primo is great stuf if u get legit ger. Alot fake primo around now my friend. Wery wery hard geting legit primo. Eaven if u get 1ml/100mg amps from schearing. Kan u not guaranti u have the real deal. Because them are so good faked in thease days. And primo on 10ml vials do i not belive in. Just BUNK i gues. Remember primo is wery expensive bro. And u need alot to see or get any resolts. Lets say u have to use minimum 400mg a week for 8-10 weeks thats ok. I am in the end of my week 8 now. And i hit the wall already. Why i say this. Is because i want u to know and understand. That is does not posably give u bether gaines. From cyceling longer. My first cycles was only 6-8 weeks maximum. And i used test e at 250mg a week with Deca 400mg a week. And i did gaine alot. And i would not run the primo alone my friend. U have to stack it with some test. Just 250mg a week will be good. I recomend test e,c or sust. But if u want to be lean then i would go for test prop at maby 300mg a week. But then u have to do 100mg eod. Gues u will get them same resolts from using test prop or a Depot test. But maby u retain some more water from the Depot test. Just keap ur diet in chek.

I dont know why you dont believe in the 10ml bottles because if you find the right ug lab they produce good shit. If you dont believe you could get legit primo find a real repatable u.g. lab like i did an make some great gains. I ran it at 400mg a week and it was awesome with some winny. I know schring primo is the best but it's not the only primo out there. Primo is the best steriod hands down my friend. I willn't put any other steriod over it, its perfect. You could get away with using 300mg of real schering a week or 400mg week of an u.g. lab and make some great gains.

 

[superninja23]

A lot of great responses, thanks guys!

I've heard that Schering Primo is 'stronger' than UGL Primo before. Is this true or more hearsay than anything?

 

[louisiana]

I used schering and ug lab and both was equally good (you may get a little more from schering). I rather get a good ugl primo for a good price because schering is so expensive. If you take you time and have realistic goals you can make great gains on primo. People act like schering primo is the only primo giving results but that's a bunch of shit.

 

[d_rson]

I don't think the question is if you HAVE to use test with primo. The question is SHOULD you. Yes, he's 25. And yes, his body is probably use to high levels of test. And regardless of the crap thrown out about primo not effecting the HPTA, it will, over time, just like all endogenous androgens. To the degree of others - no. But his normal test will be effected, and since he's use to higher test, it could actually backfire on him. I say add 150-200mg test a week if you run primo. The only reason to not run test with primo is if you are gyno prone.

But again, I think he should run test for 8 weeks - two small pins a week. I think if he gets bunk primo gear, or underdosed, he's going to waste his money.

 

[d_rson]

I used schering and ug lab and both was equally good (you may get a little more from schering). I rather get a good ugl primo for a good price because schering is so expensive. If you take you time and have realistic goals you can make great gains on primo. People act like schering primo is the only primo giving results but that's a bunch of shit.

Hold on there partner, let's keep this real. People preach the scheing route because it's pharm grade, typically overfilled, and guaranteed real. While I hear there are a few UGLs that produce good primo, there still are a TON that produce bunk. So he still needs to be very careful with primo.

 

[louisiana]

Fake schering primo, fake ug primo, whatever you do make sure you get your gear from a good source. How can we know if we have real primo or fake primo. Please dont say wait until you see if it gives you the results because you dont want to inject something fake anytime. Its a gamble i guess!!! I wish we had a way to test our gear before using it but we cant.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Test. A good primo run is too long for a first cycle. 8-10 weeks of test. Then next time, test and primo.

^^^ I agree. Test is the closest thing to something natural as far as AAS compounds go. See how you respond with a moderate dose test cycle. Honestly 300-400mg wk is fine. Others will probably tell you 500mg but its your first time. It sounds like you have a good physical bass and good experience to get you going. Once you start its all about diet (like I should preach about diet) But you need to take your training to a new level. I'm sure you know that though. I'de run the test. Then hit a 12 week run of test with primo for your 2nd time if you like.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Definitely test only first cycle. See how your body responds.

250-400mg a week is plenty unless you're huge to begin with and even then you'd still get gains.

 

[veneto82]

How long time ago is this. And did u use vials or amps of primo ??

Did this cycle about 10 months ago, got the primo from a place in thailand...
from the results i experienced, it seemed like real primo, made me real vascular and great streenght.

very low dose cycle for my 1st but experienced great gains, got me over that hurdle you reach after training natural for almost 9 years.