First Cycle Advice

[IWBLA]

6ft.2
191lbs-87kg
15%Bf
25
Training for 4 years. Want to start a Test400/Deca cycle

Week 1-12 Test 600mg/week
Week 1-10 Deca 300mg/week

Monday: 200mg Test - 300mg Deca
Tuesday:No shot
Wednesday:200mg Test
Thursday:No shot
Friday:200mg Test
Sat:No Shot
Sun:No shot

Week 15-19 Clomid 150/100/50/50
Nova 40/20/20/20

I have done research, viewed other threads and now that people will say test only for 1st cycle...I just want any advice for making this one better

 

[All In a Year]

Bro seriously don't run deca on your first cycle. Deca will shut you down hardddddddddddd and i mean hard and bring a shit load of bad sides with it.

I don't even see an AI or prolactin antagonizer in your cycle, so that shows you don't know what you're doing and you need to do more research or you're gonna end up fucking yourself up. With deca you need caber or prami to protect yourself from progesterone sides.

You can end up having a horrible experience with deca if you do this cycle not knowing what you're doing. And you never ever want to run nolvadex with or after a deca cycle. It can be bad news.. Cause gyno, etc..

Here's what you should do instead... If you're completely set on running more than one compound... Def run test and kickstart it with dbol 20-30mg for 4 weeks. Trust me, you will thank me. You'll feel amazing and make unbelievable gains with test/dbol as long as your training and diet are on point.

And your pct needs way more beefing up.

Seriously bro take my advice. You will thank me and yourself that you did.

 

[IWBLA]

Thanks for the response

So you're saying Test and Dbol?

For the Pct what would you recommend

 

[All In a Year]

Thanks for the response

So you're saying Test and Dbol?

For the Pct what would you recommend

Yeah man test and dbol you will feel amazing and make ridiculous gains.

And your test is wayyyyy too high. What kind of test are you running? You should run no more than 500mg a week at the absolute max.

I'll help you set up a good pct after I get back from the gym. No time right now. I'm sure someone else will chime in as well...

But basically lose the Nolva its absolute garbage. Keep clomid at low dose 25mg a day and run unleashed, post cycle, forma, HCGenerate, etc... Look up the pct stickies in this forum... Tons of helpful information. Research research research bro

 

[IWBLA]

I will take your advice man! Will research pct

Thanks man

 

[dylangemelli]

Yes deca is a very poor choice for a first cycle... Personally i would run test alone at 500 but the dbol recommendation is good too... Your pct is completely fucked... Nolva is shit and your clomid dose is way too high... 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 is sufficient along with inleashed and forged pct at the bare minimum... What are your goals?

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[RickRock13]

Test/Dbol will blow you up on a first cycle. Make sure you have your bases covered for an AI and on cycle support. Get some N2Guard to run while on the Dbol at least, and for your AI get some arimadex or Letro. Chemical Need has both of those if you need them.

 

[IWBLA]

Thanks guys!
My goal would be to reach 210-215?

How about this cycle:

Wk1-5 Dbol 40mg ED
Wk1-10 Test E 400mg EOD
Wk13-17 Clomid

???

 

[eddymerckx]

agree with only running test for 1st cycle.

make sure have an AI handy as you could be one of the sensitive bros (like me) to sides.

Take clomid, throw out window, forget you ever heard the name--going off cycle is bad enough w/o that freakin powdered bitch maker.

 

[IWBLA]

What AI do you recommend??

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks guys!
My goal would be to reach 210-215?

How about this cycle:

Wk1-5 Dbol 40mg ED
Wk1-10 Test E 400mg EOD
Wk13-17 Clomid

???

Clomid is not even close to enough for pct... You need unleashed and forged pct at the very least...

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[bigbassturd]

Clomid was good in 1984 but bro come on now, we have come a long way in science and have way more effective compounds now.

Also, being a first timer you don't know how you will react to these compounds, so I would start the dbol at 30mg a day and if all is good then bump to 40

I also agree with running no more than 500mg test/week

What does your diet look like? When bulking, diet is absolutely the number one priority

 

[All In a Year]

Clomid was good in 1984 but bro come on now, we have come a long way in science and have way more effective compounds now.

Also, being a first timer you don't know how you will react to these compounds, so I would start the dbol at 30mg a day and if all is good then bump to 40

I also agree with running no more than 500mg test/week

What does your diet look like? When bulking, diet is absolutely the number one priority

Yes ^^^ this. Absolutely no need for dbol to be at 40mg. Dbol is extremely powerful... Start at 20mg per day and your gains will be ridiculous. Then bump up to 30mg on 3rd or 4th week if needed.

Your test should not exceed 400mg-500mg PER WEEK.

What test are you running???

What is your diet???