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Finally, Subprime Foreclosure Rates by Race

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Finally, Subprime Foreclosure Rates by Race

Many people can't believe that minorities could account for so much of mortgage meltdown, but there are now over 100 million minorities in the U.S. Furthermore, their mortgages tended to be relatively larger than one might expect because they tend to live in fairly expensive urban areas rather than in dirt cheap rural areas.

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A variety of evidence has long pointed toward minorities accounting for a disproportionate fraction of the defaulted subprime mortgage losses that set off the economic crash. This would hardly be surprising since the government pushed hard to increase lending to minorities of marginal creditworthiness in the name of increasing minority homeownership. The Clinton Administration teamed up with leftist groups like Obama’s colleagues at ACORN to push for more lending to minorities. The Bush Administration stepped up the pace, denouncing down payments as barriers holding minorities back from the American Dream, in part to convert the growing Hispanic population into homeowning Republicans.

But, like the guns of Singapore in 1941, the government’s statistics-collecting apparatus is designed only to make sure that minorities are getting enough loans, not to count how often they default on their mortgages. So, we’ve been lacking direct data on foreclosure rates in the current Housing Bubble.

Back in October, my reader Tino calculated from the federal Home Mortgage Disclosure Act database that minorities got half the subprime cash (for home purchases and refinancings) handed out in the big years of 2004-2007. Mortgage dollars (prime and subprime) for home purchases leant to Hispanics went up 691% from 1999 to 2006 and 397% for blacks (but only 218% for Asians and about 100% for whites). In other words, mortgage lending to Hispanics almost octupled from 1999 to the peak of the Housing Bubble in 2006. Thus, a sizable majority of defaulted dollars lost are in just four heavily Hispanic states: California, Arizona, Nevada, and Florida (what Wall Street called the “Sand States”).

But, what about foreclosure rates by race?

Finally, Subprime Foreclosure Rates by Race | National Policy Institute
 
Obviously that article is racist!

(yeah, I'm kidding. Those are very insightful numbers)
 
if you click onthe link and hit the home button.
You will see the entire website is dedicated to bashing minorities read the other articles and ebooks such as " the white population is dwindeling " " who speaks for whites "
 
if you click onthe link and hit the home button.
You will see the entire website is dedicated to bashing minorities read the other articles and ebooks such as " the white population is dwindeling " " who speaks for whites "

If you want to start questioning sources, I'd start with the New York Times. That isn't even a news organization anymore -- simply a political organization.
 
If you want to start questioning sources, I'd start with the New York Times. That isn't even a news organization anymore -- simply a political organization.
as is CNN....gone downhill since ted turner sold it... :(
 
as is CNN....gone downhill since ted turner sold it... :(

Very true.

I find it interesting that when an article posts unflattering numbers regarding a politically correct class, the first reaction is to question the source.

But if the figures cited had been critical of 25-40 year old white males, they would have been immediately accepted as fact.

This PC bullshit is completely out of control.
 
So banned....
 
if you click onthe link and hit the home button.
You will see the entire website is dedicated to bashing minorities read the other articles and ebooks such as " the white population is dwindeling " " who speaks for whites "

if this thread was neg towards whites and a link was posted from a black themed site hostile towards white, i really doubt you'd be hostile.
most likely you'd be in agreeance
 
Kill everyone that doesn"t look like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!#!#@$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



this would be a fat ugly world if you had it your way.
 
Mortgage dollars (prime and subprime) for home purchases leant to Hispanics went up 691% from 1999 to 2006 and 397% for blacks (but only 218% for Asians and about 100% for whites). In other words, mortgage lending to Hispanics almost octupled from 1999 to the peak of the Housing Bubble in 2006.
Due in no small part to Bush's mandate to the housing industry to increase minority home ownership, a noble cause for sure. How this was achieved led to most of the problems.

Lenders went back to potential borrowers in areas that were previously redlined and said "hey poor person in zip code xxx, you know that loan we've been denying you (simply based on where you live*) for the last ten years? well we've rechecked and it looks like you're qualified now". They were sold mortgages only within their means via ARMs that were soon to reset. Also unqualified people were put into homes by lenders who chose to not verify finances because they wanted the sale.. Of course some borrowers fudge data as well so there's blame to go around.


* - It's been proven that minority borrowers in certain areas (often delineated by zip code) were declined more often than white borrowers of similar credit rating. This was true even if someone simply wanted a 2nd mortgage to improve the home they're already in.
 
Hmmmmm. I seem to recall Bush trying to regulate the Fanny and Freddie and getting vilified for it. Even the NYTimes wrote article about it. They thought he was a moron for trying to do it.
You can break down who is defaulting by race just as easy as you can who is lending by race.
In the end if you couldn't pay for it you shouldn't have signed for it.
If the person couldn't pay for it you should not have lent it to them.
Pretty simple.
Greed knows no bounds.
At least everyone gets to blame it on everyone else.
 
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Hmmmmm. I seem to recall Bush trying to regulate the Fanny and Freddie and getting vilified for it. Even the NYTimes wrote article about it. They thought he was a moron for trying to do it.
You can break down who is defaulting by race just as easy as you can who is lending by race.
In the end if you couldn't pay for it you shouldn't have signed for it.
If the person couldn't pay for it you should not have lent it to them.
Pretty simple.
Greed knows no bounds.
At least everyone gets to blame it on everyone else.

When the bush administration tried to rein-in the GSE's, members of the congressional black caucus accused him of attempting a "public lynching" of the GSE CEO (who happened to also be black).

It was politics at its finest.
 
I often hear the phrase, "predatory lender" thrown about, but what about the "predatory borrower" slat1 eluded to? I've watched a former friend of mine lie about his income numerous times to get credit extended to him, now his financial house of cards is collapsing and he can't make his payments. His response is to lie to another credit issuer in an attempt to get more credit extended to keep afloat. He will gladly pay them Tuesday for a hamburger today.
 
I often hear the phrase, "predatory lender" thrown about, but what about the "predatory borrower" slat1 eluded to? I've watched a former friend of mine lie about his income numerous times to get credit extended to him, now his financial house of cards is collapsing and he can't make his payments. His response is to lie to another credit issuer in an attempt to get more credit extended to keep afloat. He will gladly pay them Tuesday for a hamburger today.
Lenders should be verifying the information. A few weeks of pay stubs would knock that right out.
 
Due in no small part to Bush's mandate to the housing industry to increase minority home ownership, a noble cause for sure. How this was achieved led to most of the problems.

Lenders went back to potential borrowers in areas that were previously redlined and said "hey poor person in zip code xxx, you know that loan we've been denying you (simply based on where you live*) for the last ten years? well we've rechecked and it looks like you're qualified now". They were sold mortgages only within their means via ARMs that were soon to reset. Also unqualified people were put into homes by lenders who chose to not verify finances because they wanted the sale.. Of course some borrowers fudge data as well so there's blame to go around.


* - It's been proven that minority borrowers in certain areas (often delineated by zip code) were declined more often than white borrowers of similar credit rating. This was true even if someone simply wanted a 2nd mortgage to improve the home they're already in
.

Eh, kind of, but it wasn't a race issue. HUD cracked down on all lenders from banks to brokers to expand their marketing and guidelines were relaxed to get more people into houses. It was completely irresponsible to say a W2 wage earner could just state their income to qualify for 100% of a home's purchase price with a 580 fico. That opened the door for so much fraud it was ridiculous. Realtors and builders were the ones that in my experience really put the screws to people. Realtors making 6% on homes they listed and sold and builders suing straw buyers to inflate values. The programs were just what helped it along.
 
Lenders should be verifying the information. A few weeks of pay stubs would knock that right out.

But that's the whole purpose of stated income and no doc loans. What you're describing is a full documentation loan. Sure, the income you're stating has to be "reasonable" for the job or busienss, but "reasonable" has/had a pretty wide margin.

Jnevin's right on this one.
 
C'mon, what next?

African American males commit most gun murders? Mexicans make up most illegal immigrants? Asians graduate the most medical students? C'mon, we're all supposed to be one color unless a cop shoots one of us, get with the program!!

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You will see the entire website is dedicated to bashing minorities read the other articles and ebooks such as " the white population is dwindeling " " who speaks for whites "

Ah yes..... the white population IS dwindling. And.... who DOES speak for the white man? Those ~horrid~ white people, how DARE they have an ethnic awareness or concern.

Times, they are a changing..... YT is not going to take it any longer. He is slowly waking from his slumber and will not tolerate being denigrated for his skin color any more.

To understand what I'm saying read the comments that follow this article. (imagine for a moment an article titled: In a changing world, Detroit remains overwhelmingly black. It could never be written)
"In a changing world, Portland remains overwhelmingly white"
In a changing world, Portland remains overwhelmingly white - OregonLive.com
 
ah yes..... The white population is dwindling. And.... Who does speak for the white man? Those ~horrid~ white people, how dare they have an ethnic awareness or concern.

Times, they are a changing..... Yt is not going to take it any longer. He is slowly waking from his slumber and will not tolerate being denigrated for his skin color any more.

To understand what i'm saying read the comments that follow this article. (imagine for a moment an article titled: In a changing world, detroit remains overwhelmingly black. It could never be written)
"in a changing world, portland remains overwhelmingly white"
in a changing world, portland remains overwhelmingly white - oregonlive.com
racist!!
 
To understand what I'm saying read the comments that follow this article. (imagine for a moment an article titled: In a changing world, Detroit remains overwhelmingly black. It could never be written)
I have read enough articles of that kind that they don't even stand out as memorable.
 
Lenders should be verifying the information. A few weeks of pay stubs would knock that right out.

The CRA changed all of that. People with no proof of income could obtain loans. Special interest groups also went after lenders for racial discrimination when they didn't want to give out loans to minorities with shitty credit.

Everyone here should read up on the Community Reinvestment Act.

On another note, the statistics do show a large percentage of minorities did default.

The critical issue is not a persons race - it is their level of education regarding loans. Smart people of all colors, shapes and sizes know to stay away from mortgages they can't afford. Education is the key.

The real problem will never be addressed though. Bush and the rest of the race-pandering pricks in this nation believe that home ownership is a good way to build wealth so they pushed homes, and lenders to give out loans, to millions of people who couldn't afford it. A large segment that was targeted were minorities, many of whom did not know what they were doing. The same goes for stupid white people who signed mortgages they couldn't afford.

The sad thing is that working class Americans are the ones paying for all of this. If you look at the bailout program and the steps being taken to "fix" this mess they are going to make it worse.

Just look at some of the post in this thread. Attack the messenger. Attack the numbers as being lies. Attack the source of the information. That fixes nothing.

BTW I see nothing racist with the site posted by professorswole. I don't agree with the underlying political agenda but it does point out some issues Americans are not willing to deal with. Namely what I said above.

Also, look at how Obama is dealing with this mess. The general plan is to allow bankruptcy courts to rewrite mortgages and also to hand out more money to organizations that created this mess. I have yet to see anything regarding educating people on how to properly manage their wealth. If you give wealth away to people who do not know how to manage it they will squander it away. Finance 101.

Another Article:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=312766781716725
 
the cra changed all of that. People with no proof of income could obtain loans. Special interest groups also went after lenders for racial discrimination when they didn't want to give out loans to minorities with shitty credit.

Everyone here should read up on the community reinvestment act.

On another note, the statistics do show a large percentage of minorities did default.

the critical issue is not a persons race - it is their level of education regarding loans. smart people of all colors, shapes and sizes know to stay away from mortgages they can't afford. Education is the key.

The real problem will never be addressed though. Bush and the rest of the race-pandering pricks in this nation believe that home ownership is a good way to build wealth so they pushed homes, and lenders to give out loans, to millions of people who couldn't afford it. A large segment that was targeted were minorities, many of whom did not know what they were doing. The same goes for stupid white people who signed mortgages they couldn't afford.

The sad thing is that working class americans are the ones paying for all of this. If you look at the bailout program and the steps being taken to "fix" this mess they are going to make it worse.

Just look at some of the post in this thread. Attack the messenger. Attack the numbers as being lies. Attack the source of the information. That fixes nothing.

Btw i see nothing racist with the site posted by professorswole. I don't agree with the underlying political agenda but it does point out some issues americans are not willing to deal with. Namely what i said above.

Also, look at how obama is dealing with this mess. The general plan is to allow bankruptcy courts to rewrite mortgages and also to hand out more money to organizations that created this mess. I have yet to see anything regarding educating people on how to properly manage their wealth. If you give wealth away to people who do not know how to manage it they will squander it away. Finance 101.

Another article:

IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- Stop Covering Up And Kill The CRA

r a c i s t !!!!
 
The stated loans were a good thing for a lot of people. It's just that a lot of people lied and took advantage of it. Anyone that's self employed will show a shitload less than their actual earnings. What's kinda stupid is they'll use pre-tax income on W2 wage earners but go off of the adjusted income on the schedule c for self employed borrowers. Now there's a shitload of self employed people with verifiable assets, perfect payment histories, and excellent credit that are stuck in ARMs that are adjusting and can't refinance.
 
If anything, the statistics show that the real smart people are Asians. I don't see them defaulting!

Asians > whites >= blacks >= Latinos > midgets > trannys > Pick3

So now you're racist, sizeist and homophobic!
 
So now you're racist, sizeist and homophobic!

Homosexuals generally dress well, are overly cautious, and nit picky (not to overgeneralize or stereotype of course!) This shows they have money and are cautious with their financial decisions. My bet is they pay their mortgages on time!

Then again, google knows EVERYTHING. I searched for "homosexual mortgage" and found out they are involved in this mess too. Perhaps my theory is wrong. They still dress very nice though!

PFOX - Bankrupt mortgage giants donated thousands to homosexuals
 
If anything, the statistics show that the real smart people are Asians. I don't see them defaulting!

Asians > whites >= blacks >= Latinos > midgets > trannys > Pick3

No.


Asians > whites >= blacks >= Latinos > midgets > trannys > Pets that do really funny things on TV > Carrot Top > Pick3

r
 
No.


Asians > whites >= blacks >= Latinos > midgets > trannys > Pets that do really funny things on TV > Carrot Top > Pick3

r

lol You did forget Michael Jackson and Ru Paul

Asians > whites >= blacks >= Latinos > midgets > trannys > Pets that do really funny things on TV > Carrot Top > Michael Jackson > Ru Paul> Pick3 > ShrimpPoBoy
 
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