Finally! A Progesterone Inhibitor!

[StrongChE]

Impact Ultra made by ALRI has Formestane Acetate in it along with a couple other goodies. It is marketed as a sterile oral solution, but it is supposed to be IM'ed. It is true it is hard to find formestane acetate, but the base is sold at some bulk nutrition websites.

The problem with the Impact Ultra is that the phosphatydlserine crashed out, so it must be reheated to get it back into solution then transfer into a regular vial. ALRI discontinued it, and I just bought up what I could find on the net. There is a UK site that sells it.

Before any says the stuff is crap, I can vouch for it and say it is not. My crew uses it as part of their PCT, and it has to be one of the best additions we've made to PCT in a while. We have a two pro strongman in the group along with an elite level 220 PLer. Our results are great so it doesn't matter if someone says it is not any good (which is what I see quite often on here).

The Impact Ultra should be done 1cc EOD because of the acetate ester. It is pain free (at least for me).

As far as arimidex and letrozole, they only bind the aromatase enzyme temporarily and are not suicide inhibitors like the exestame and formestane. There can be a rebound with discontinuance of the arimidex and letrozole so be careful.

 

[Workout King]

strongCHE What does is that actually, in MG? looking into possiby makin a suspension for upcoming cycle, and was wondering how much i should use IM...

Anyone else know? Or how much to take orally? it worked well for me orally, but i think i was taking a couple 100mg's a day, liek 3 or 400 i do believe... How much is getting deactivated by taking it orally, hmm.

 

[deltron2000]

I would use Dostinex over Bromo. Remember though that it will only suppress prolactin, it will not affect progesterone.

well i see for myself as i justed popped some cabaser exclusivly for my gyno situation. im going to post my results good or bad.


makavali is a smart mofo. i would have to say with 100% confidence he is mod material w/out a doubt.


mak for mod?

you deserve it bro

 

[Makavelli]

well i see for myself as i justed popped some cabaser exclusivly for my gyno situation. im going to post my results good or bad.


makavali is a smart mofo. i would have to say with 100% confidence he is mod material w/out a doubt.


mak for mod?

you deserve it bro

Let us know what happens. Thanks for da props brotha...

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Why not just use the Letrozole? You can order it from AG-Guys, and remember...it pretty much removes all your estrogen...progesterone alone probably can not cause gyno (I'm 99.99% sure of this, as per the research I've done)...so why search for other, more esoteric and expensive compounds?

 

[deltron2000]

Why not just use the Letrozole? You can order it from AG-Guys, and remember...it pretty much removes all your estrogen...progesterone alone probably can not cause gyno (I'm 99.99% sure of this, as per the research I've done)...so why search for other, more esoteric and expensive compounds?

are you deaf?

i sucked down so much letro i thought my joints where gonna burst. your skewing the perception here of reader's. letro wont help i kNOW FROM EXPERIENCE not from arm chair research.

sorry if i come off as testy but i cant stand spew. ( anymore)

 

[djsf]

Actually, take a look at this graph:

Basically it shows that half a mg is similar to a full mg of Arimidex for purposes of testosterone elevation and estrogen lowering.

References:

(1) J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2000 Jul;85(7):2370-7, "Estrogen Suppression in Males"

Very interesting info! K to you. If that is really true, folks can save a lot of $$ on their arimidex. But I am not convinced.

Here is a link to the referenced study: http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/7/2370

It appears the study was performing an experiment to see how much test levels are increased from baseline levels in "normal men" by just taking arimidex. This is not the same thing as protecting oneself from the extremely high testosterone levels an AAS user is likely to have. If I am understanding the study correcty, all they did was observe that the body stops converting background levels of test into background levels of estrogen (thereby slightly elevating the amount of test available because it is not converted). Since so little testosterone is involved (normal levels in young men), it's no wonder .5mg worked the same as 1mg!

For AAS users whose test levels are MANY times that of the young men in the study, I am not convinced .5mg would work the same as 1mg. So this study, fascinating as it is, might not be completely relevant for the bros here to are taking 500, 700 or 1000mg of test a week.

 

[Makavelli]

Very interesting info! K to you. If that is really true, folks can save a lot of $$ on their arimidex. But I am not convinced.

Here is a link to the referenced study: http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/7/2370

It appears the study was performing an experiment to see how much test levels are increased from baseline levels in "normal men" by just taking arimidex. This is not the same thing as protecting oneself from the extremely high testosterone levels an AAS user is likely to have. If I am understanding the study correcty, all they did was observe that the body stops converting background levels of test into background levels of estrogen (thereby slightly elevating the amount of test available because it is not converted). Since so little testosterone is involved (normal levels in young men), it's no wonder .5mg worked the same as 1mg!

For AAS users whose test levels are MANY times that of the young men in the study, I am not convinced .5mg would work the same as 1mg. So this study, fascinating as it is, might not be completely relevant for the bros here to are taking 500, 700 or 1000mg of test a week.

Great post. I agree that the more Arimidex one uses the less estrogen and less bloat. I just bumped my Arimidex up to 2 mgs/day last week and I started losing water quickly. So that's proof enough for me that the more you use, the less estrogen you'll have.

 

[DBBT]

bump

letro, AIFM, aromasin stack the best for ALL gyno?

 

[blut wump]

RU486, the morning after pill, is a known anti-progestin.