If ordering right from him you can get a jug of 75ml @80mg/ml for $200 or you can get 2 jugs for $300. I prefer making it myself. A kit that makes 23-25ml @75mg/ml costs I think $25 and then a carton of pellets goes for $37, so $62 for 23-25 shots is not bad. I never used chinamans fina but have read from many people that they said it hurts like hell. With the kit I use to make it is painless.