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babymonkey
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I am doing a similar cycle but starting the Fina at the same time as the Test. I've been reading that Fina at the end of your cycle will make you crash harder. I am also doing 200mg a week of Deca with this cycle. I have never done Fina before so I can only tell you from what I have researched. I am subscribing to this thread so we might get some EXPERIENCED feedback.
pittsburgh*
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need some more info about you...stats, drug experience..etc...
babymonkey
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I'm 5'8" 140lbs. Done Deca and Test a few times in the past. I started at 115lbs. Never done Fina before.
gallobolan
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Word is=
Fina and Deca together is not a smart choice/Best bet is choosin 1 or the other
Fina and Deca together is not a smart choice/Best bet is choosin 1 or the other
machaveli
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Im starting almost exactly the same thing in a couple weeks.
Enth. 500mg/w 1-10
fina 75mg/ d 6-12
dbol 25mg/d 1-6
bromo 2.5mg/d 6-12
nolva, hcg, clomid post cycle.
I would through in some dbol in the beginning like myself or some winny towards the end. All depends what your looking for?
Keep me posted on results when u start.
Enth. 500mg/w 1-10
fina 75mg/ d 6-12
dbol 25mg/d 1-6
bromo 2.5mg/d 6-12
nolva, hcg, clomid post cycle.
I would through in some dbol in the beginning like myself or some winny towards the end. All depends what your looking for?
Keep me posted on results when u start.
jc21
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well that looks good sausage...but it could be better if you started them at the same time...fina kicks in right away so it works very well at the start of the cycle...and the crashing thing needs to be taken into account.
yes deca and fina can be a bad idea if you body gets gyno through progesterone....but i have did it a few times and with no gyno.
oh and the most important thing...fina is fast acting...very fast acting, so you need to take it every day.
yes deca and fina can be a bad idea if you body gets gyno through progesterone....but i have did it a few times and with no gyno.
oh and the most important thing...fina is fast acting...very fast acting, so you need to take it every day.
babymonkey
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If you only have 22cc of Fina should you still do it ED rather than EOD?
babymonkey said:
I would take it EOD then. I'd also take it the last 6 weeks of the cycle. Reason being is that tren is about 3x inhibitive as test on your HPTA and will shut you down a lot sooner than if you waited until the 3rd weeks o you can benefit more from natural + exogenous test. Recovery will not be affected with the former protocol vs this one.
sausage said:
CC = cubic centimeter, a unit of volume. A component TH belt contains 4 grams of tren. How many cubic centimeters the actual pellets are I do not know. How many mg/cc's your final solution I have I nor anyone but Ms Cleo can tell you, since it depends on the concentrations and proportions YOU decide to use when you convert it.
sausage said:
CC = cubic centimeter, a unit of volume. A component TH belt contains 4 grams of tren. How many cubic centimeters the actual pellets are I do not know. How many mg/cc's your final solution I have I nor anyone but Ms Cleo can tell you, since it depends on the concentrations and proportions YOU decide to use when you convert it.
sausage said:
OK, I think what you're trying to ask is how many cc's should you get out of 4000mg fina at 75mg/ml. Ideally you'd end up with about 50cc's of 75mg/ml fina. I recently discovered, though, that many of our fina kit suppliers aren't so good at math. A comp th with a 4 pack conversion kit will yield about 90cc's (or ml, ml=cc) of 40-45mg/ml fina. But, as B182 said, it's just going to depend on what ratios you've decided to use.
-B
B182 said:
I can't agree with this. Your natural test is going to get suppressed as soon as the enanthate is active. You're not going to get any extra 'gains' off of your natural 50mg/wk of test. You also don't want to be running fina at the end of your cycle. Many people say it's because of how 'hard' it shuts you down. I don't subscribe to that either. What I do consider, though, is that you want your gains to be solidified nearing the end of your cycle, not just then starting to sky-rocket. You'll keep a lot more gains if you get them close to the beginning and maintain them through than building up gradually and then trying to back-load 10lbs of muscle on to your frame, then come off everything all at once. That just doesn't make any sense, and running the fina at the back end of the cycle accomplishes exactly that. Use the fina up front to get your cycle going and let the test carry it through the back end and help you keep those gains.
Week 1-5: 75mg fina EOD
Week 1-10: 500mg Test Enanthate
Have bromo and clomid on hand for progest. gyno up front and estrogen gyno near the end. Novladex wouldn't be bad for the gyno aspect (if needed). Clomid can be used for that, but I'd try to hold on to it and use it for post-cycle recovery.
-B
I am running the same cycle, fina 75mg EOD and enanth 500mg per week. I am running the test and the fina for the entire 12 weeks. I am 6'0" and started about 195. I have been working out for 13 years very hard. I am at week 9 in this cycle. I am up to a solid 215 and very strong. I have very little water weight and I don't take any anti-e's as I have zero signs that show they are necessary.
I have heard many different aspects of fina ED v. EOD. I will tell you that I don't think I could personally handle it ED. You become some tight for it that your forearms burn just from typing and brushing your teeth, so you know you have adequate levels in the body. You will need to drink 1.5-2.5 gallons of water per day. The web sites state the half life of fina is between 36-72 hours and no one really has the exact figure. My friends have done both and didn't see any benefit to running it ED and they are experienced with gear so maybe EOD is enough.
The fina is wicked and you will probably have intense night sweats, possibly a hard time getting to sleep and a very tight body. However, I am not complaining and will run fina/test for the next several cycles.
I hope this helps you all. Do your own research and make the best decisions. Good luck!
I have heard many different aspects of fina ED v. EOD. I will tell you that I don't think I could personally handle it ED. You become some tight for it that your forearms burn just from typing and brushing your teeth, so you know you have adequate levels in the body. You will need to drink 1.5-2.5 gallons of water per day. The web sites state the half life of fina is between 36-72 hours and no one really has the exact figure. My friends have done both and didn't see any benefit to running it ED and they are experienced with gear so maybe EOD is enough.
The fina is wicked and you will probably have intense night sweats, possibly a hard time getting to sleep and a very tight body. However, I am not complaining and will run fina/test for the next several cycles.
I hope this helps you all. Do your own research and make the best decisions. Good luck!
