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Fina & HPTA Recovery....my current cycle..
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40butpumpin
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When it comes to being shut down, time on is not your friend. The more time your on, the harder you're shut down and the harder it is to come back. If you look at a worst case scenario where someone is on for a long time, their nuts shrink all up and stand a chance of never coming back. So that tells me there is a gradual increase of the degree to which one can be shut down. Is it linear, who knows? But I know it's not like one day you're doing fine and the next you can't come back anymore because you're too far gone. It's a gradual thing and the more time on the worse it is. Will 2 weeks make a difference? Well, it will definitely be harder to come back but will it be impossible? I doubt impossible but definitely harder. In fact if the decline is a linear one, it will be exactly 150% harder.
As far as HCG, you can become desensitized if on for too long, but not for a short burst like two weeks. I haven't used HCG with exogenous test still in my system because I don't believe my body sees the need to get things rolling again with the high test levels still there. I realize that HCG is a LH mimicker and it acts at the testicular level as opposed to the hypothalamus (sp?), however, this feedback system in our body is very complex and is designed to maintain a proper balance of things. Whether the pituitary is up and running or not yet when HCG is introduced, I still feel that there are processes at work that will counteract the HCG because of the high test levels still in the body. My opinion is to allow the test levels to drop and then introduce the HCG so the body sees the need to bounce back. As far as 8-10 weeks it's actually 1 week I was thinking as you would stop the test week 8 and then start HCG week 10, only week 9 you would be without anything except diminishing test levels. That's how I see it good or bad right or wrong.
As far as HCG, you can become desensitized if on for too long, but not for a short burst like two weeks. I haven't used HCG with exogenous test still in my system because I don't believe my body sees the need to get things rolling again with the high test levels still there. I realize that HCG is a LH mimicker and it acts at the testicular level as opposed to the hypothalamus (sp?), however, this feedback system in our body is very complex and is designed to maintain a proper balance of things. Whether the pituitary is up and running or not yet when HCG is introduced, I still feel that there are processes at work that will counteract the HCG because of the high test levels still in the body. My opinion is to allow the test levels to drop and then introduce the HCG so the body sees the need to bounce back. As far as 8-10 weeks it's actually 1 week I was thinking as you would stop the test week 8 and then start HCG week 10, only week 9 you would be without anything except diminishing test levels. That's how I see it good or bad right or wrong.
40butpumpin
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Oh yeah, that's my "little princess," Nicole. She's 6 and my youngest of 4 (3 girls total). I can't begin to tell you how much she lights up my life. A while back the other kids were saying she's ugly so from that minute on she became my "beautiful little princess." Every single day I remind her how beautiful she is. Well, not only is she convinced of that now, she's sick of me saying it. lol
But thanks for the compliment guys, and yes, you gotta love kids!
But little Nicole sure has me wrapped around her finger I'll tell you!
Her picture's there because I just love her so much.
But thanks for the compliment guys, and yes, you gotta love kids!
But little Nicole sure has me wrapped around her finger I'll tell you!Her picture's there because I just love her so much.
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gunner44
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Ig you guys are so concerned about HPTA shutdown and recovery, why not try SHORT cycles, or SHIC's ?
ALso, why use clomid at all post recovery ? Nolvadex is much more effective for me, and I dont miss the acne on my shoulders and all the crying at the Lifetime Movies the old lady makes me watch.
ALso, why use clomid at all post recovery ? Nolvadex is much more effective for me, and I dont miss the acne on my shoulders and all the crying at the Lifetime Movies the old lady makes me watch.
40butpumpin
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Dial_tone said:
What are you doing about dosages, bro? Could you please describe what a 3-week cycle would consist of dosage-wise?
Thanks, man.
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Thanks for the responses guys. Now I'm more confused than ever!!! 
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From Zyglamail:
HCG is a glycoprotien that mimics our bodies own LH, having said that and we know that the body will reduce output of a hormone that is introduces externally taking HCG will work at returning the size and reversing atrophy to the testis since it mimics LH. However there is a down side and that since we are getting LH externally via HCG our body will not need to produce its own. With that in mind, I personally feel the best time to use HCG is at the tail end of a cycle of short esters, or just post cycle with long esters. Taking HCG while androgen levels are too high for the body to recover will reverse atrophy so that once androgen levesl diminish post cycle your testis are in a better position to start producing on their own. However LH release is what gets the testis going and since you have been on cycle LH level have also been suppressed so regardless of what you take you still have to wait for the body to respond and start producing LH again.
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This is the theory I was following for running HCG weeks 6-8. Then continue aromosin and run clomid after cycle. This differs from 40s view and I'm sure others. Any other thoughts??
HCG is a glycoprotien that mimics our bodies own LH, having said that and we know that the body will reduce output of a hormone that is introduces externally taking HCG will work at returning the size and reversing atrophy to the testis since it mimics LH. However there is a down side and that since we are getting LH externally via HCG our body will not need to produce its own. With that in mind, I personally feel the best time to use HCG is at the tail end of a cycle of short esters, or just post cycle with long esters. Taking HCG while androgen levels are too high for the body to recover will reverse atrophy so that once androgen levesl diminish post cycle your testis are in a better position to start producing on their own. However LH release is what gets the testis going and since you have been on cycle LH level have also been suppressed so regardless of what you take you still have to wait for the body to respond and start producing LH again.
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This is the theory I was following for running HCG weeks 6-8. Then continue aromosin and run clomid after cycle. This differs from 40s view and I'm sure others. Any other thoughts??
