Fina and Test. How come?

[Metallica]

ok guys im about to do my 1st cycle here in about a week. i have a few questions that i would really like some feedback on.

1st, why does everyone reccomend fina and test together? i am trying to get lean and maintain my bodyweight while i add strength. is the test really neccessary?? would some kinda 4 beta diol andro not do the trick???

2nd what dosages do you think are best. My cycle that is on its way is 100 mg per cc. i want to do a 6 week cycle. i have heard take 75 mg EOD for 1st 3 weeks then 75mg ED for last 3 weeks. i have heard 50 mg ED. What do you think???

 

[Big BX]

Test and Fina are a great combo, they seem to cover all bases. Tren is 3 times more androgenic then test is. Do the fina ED @ 75mgs either test prop @ 100mgs EOD For no longer then 8 weeks. I haven't tried it, but a lot of guys recommend it. I can tell you that tren by itself is a great drug.

 

[gainerxxl]

If you don´t care about your sexual perfomance go with the fina alone. 50mg ED should be fine, I´d go for 8 weeks.

 

[Elapid]

The best I ever "looked" was while running 500mgs Test/wk and 150mg Tren EOD. It was insane, never been as vascular(which I kept most of) and strong. Got to 228 at around 9% BF, at least I could see the top of my abs. Was constantly hungry and horny, needless to say my twin daughters were concieved at the end of that cycle so do let anyone tell you that juice is birthcontrol(yes they're mine, they're spitting images of me).

For a first cycle I would do 100mgs Test Prop EOD along with your Tren at 100mg EOD ran for a total of 8 weeks or even 10. This will be convienent as hell, 3 shots a week is easy and also it'll be cheap. This cycle can be used to cut or bulk, either of which just alter your caloric intake and cardio frequency. I can't think of a better AAS cutting cycle, stenghth should go up pretty fast so watch out for injuries. Might as well take some kind of generic 3rd gen anti-estro just incase your sensitive to estrogenic fat or gyno.

Fuck those prohormones. You should attain your goals easily with this cycle. Keep protein and water intake high.

Enjoy yourself

 

[thecockdiesel]

Fina is not s good choice for a first cycle. I would go with something like deca and test for my first cycle. If you are new to injections and gear, you want something with fewer sides and something that you only have to inject one time a week.

 

[Racer-X99]

Test is supreme. Period.

A good dosage for a first time user for Fina is 75mg EOD. That is not too much and then you will know how your body will react to it. You should roll in some test. Do something like Test Enanth 400mg/week and run that for ten weeks.

If I was giving you advice I would do....

Test Enanth 400mg/week for weeks 1-10
Fina 75mg EOD for weeks 3-10

I delay the Fina because it will start hitting you in about 8-10 days. The test will take about 3-4 weeks. You could shorten the time for the test to take effect, but you would have to front-load it or take prop for the first three weeks. I would not do prop the first time becuase your body will be sore at times from the Fina injections and prop hits some people hard. If you do Fina and prop together you may have some very sore legs, glutes and shoulders for a few days.

I did fina my first cycle and it took my body about a month to get adjusted to the gear. My first few injections were sore for about 4-5 days then the time to recover shortened until it was nothing.

Just my opinion. Hope it helps.

 

[thecockdiesel]

Why are you telling a guy new to gear to take fina? If it's his first cycle he will make gains off most anything! There is no need for him to use a roid that needs injected so often and has more sides that other gear. Many people develop fina cough, anxiety, and aggression on fina way more than other types of gear. Do what you want to do, but I wouldn't do more than you need to for your first cycle. Save the heavier stuff for later when you need it.

 

[liquidmuscle]

deca300mgs/test500mgs for a first timer and he will still gain a good 20lbs

 

[ROLGOR]

Listen to thecockdiesel and liquidmuscle but if you are detirmined to do fina do 75 mg ed. your blood titer will stay more constant. The test will keep you from getting fina dick but you don't have to have it. If this is your first cycle you don't need big dosages to see good results

 

[Racer-X99]

Why are you telling a guy new to gear to take fina? If it's his first cycle he will make gains off most anything! There is no need for him to use a roid that needs injected so often and has more sides that other gear. Many people develop fina cough, anxiety, and aggression on fina way more than other types of gear. Do what you want to do, but I wouldn't do more than you need to for your first cycle. Save the heavier stuff for later when you need it.

Like I said, it was my opinion. I did fina my first cycle without any problems and loved it. You have a valid point about saving it for later. I have seen many arguments back and forth on the topic for first timers. 75 EOD is not a high dose anyway, but if you want to play it safe a good cycle of Test and EQ/Deca would be good as well. I simply like fina becuase I reacted well to it and had no adverse effects.

Good luck on the cycle. Watch for gyno and train hard, you will be happy.

 

[Elapid]

Thecockdiesel-I was speaking from personal experience only. I experience very few if any sides from fina, also EOD will not make that much more difference than ED-again this from my personal exp and could vary from person to person.

 

[rm2738]

If you don´t care about your sexual perfomance go with the fina alone. 50mg ED should be fine, I´d go for 8 weeks.

Not every body's sex drive goes to hell. When I am on a Fina only Cycle I actually like my performance. It depends on your body, I admit my sex drive has lowered a little, but for me that just means I "satisfy" my self less and have more fun with my girl.

 

[Greek Freak]

Just because you didnt see any sides doesnt mean there aren't any. Unless you had a complete physical and bloodwork done afterward. Also it varies from person to person. Some people could take a gram of test a week and not get gyno, others have 38 DD's from taking 300 mg/week. For a first cycle honestly I would stick with something like a dbol/deca stack, or test/deca stack...somethign simple without many injections and less sides. And if its your first cycle you wouldnt have ot use very much of either substance. If someone is set on using fina/thats all they can get then the best way to take it would be 50-75 mg ED to keep blood levels more constant. Most people like to stack it with test to keep libido up but some people dont have trouble while on. I would not run it longer than 6 weeks no matter what because of the toxicity of it. At a dose of 50 mg ED for 6 weeks you would def. put on some solid side and see more vascularity/speperation.

 

[FatChops]

I gained 35lbs kept 25lbs on 500mgs of sus 10 wks. I know people that took fina for there first cycle but it up to you. Take it slow and maybe just hit some deca/test cycle. Well good luck. kepp us updated bro!

chops