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"Fifty-Rep Sets"

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Preface: Dr. Ken's Reflections on "Fifty-Rep Sets"
If you say "fifty reps" to anyone, they think two things; "this motherfucker is crazy" followed by "endurance activity". A short bout of fifty rep sets will make you very tough mentally, something not to be ignored. Most don't train hard because they don't want to be uncomfortable. Who does but if this stuff was easy, we'd all lift like Dimas or Coan and look like Pearl in his prime. No such luck. This is a tough way to go but a great change of pace.


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Fifty-Rep Sets

A very effective means of breaking through boredom or sticking points in training is the 50-rep set. I first began doing this many years ago, and was surprised that I gained so much strength. Most trainees will tell you that endurance will increase doing 50-rep sets, and that is true, but if the 50-rep set is done so that the set ends at a point of momentary muscular fatigue/failure, you will also get strong. It is best to do this for only two to three weeks at a time due to the severity of the program and the difficulty in recovering from it. Choose four to six exercises that provide muscular work for the entire body. Using a barbell, I would do:

1. squats

2. stiff-legged deadlifts while standing on an elevated surface

3. bench presses or dips

4. curls or chin-ups

5. shrugs or upright rows

I would take a weight that I thought I could do 20-25 good reps with, perform as many reps as possible, replace the bar on the rack or floor, rest ten seconds, again do as many reps as possible, rest ten seconds, and continue in that manner until 50 repetitions, were completed. In the squat, for example, I would use approximately 275 lbs and do 25-30 reps, put the bar on the rack, take a few deep breaths, take the bar again, gut out 4 or 6 more reps, back away from the rack, take the bar again for 3 or 4 reps, rest perhaps fifteen seconds, and try to finish the set. I never allowed myself to take more than five "rest stops" during the course of the exercise. After squats, I would wait two to three minutes, and then continue with the next exercise. This was brutally hard work, and in the first two workouts, limitations in cardiovascular ability halted me as much as muscular failure. However, I quickly adapted to the program and found that I could develop incredible mental toughness during the actual workout. At that point, when I reached 50 reps, I couldn't do number 51 because I was shaking so badly and could barely direct the working bodypart to function. The key lies in viewing this not as an endurance type workout but as a brutally hard strength training workout.

I don't recommend doing the overhead press because the low back will be too fatigued to allow the performance of 50 hard reps after doing squats and/or stiff-legged deadlifts. Alternating chins and curls, and dips with bench presses every other workout, insures that the major muscular structures of the upper body are being worked fully. I found that I could not squat and deadlift three times per week on this program, but I could complete the upper body movements that often. Again, expect to be sore and somewhat fatigued while using this program, but discontinue it after two to three weeks so that overtraining is avoided. This particular training technique provides very high intensity, low force, low volume muscle stimulating work for the major muscle groups of the body–the exact requisites for encouraging muscular growth and increases in strength. The mental toughness that results from a few weeks of this should not be underestimated nor discounted, and the carryover to more conventional training routines is definite and positive.



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This article has been retained courtesy of Dr. Ken Leistner and CS Publishing Ltd. It was originally published in THE STEEL TIP Vol. 1 No. 3, March 1985. It was reprinted in the publication HARDGAINER, Issue #44 - September/October 1996. It is reprinted here on Cyberpump! with permission. No reproduction, photocopying or transmission of this article may be used without expressly written permission from CS Publishing and Dr. Ken Leistner. Any use other than for personal knowledge and instruction will be considered copyright infringement, and will be viewed and treated as such.
 
Tom Platz squatted 315lbs for 50 reps on a somewhat regular basis. That's just astounding.

That motherfucker is crazy alright, very few people have the balls for that type of training.
 
I think that this type of training can be a good rest from traditional lifting. Especially for the legs...

B True
 
yeah but the catch is that tom platz squatted 315lbs for 50 reps without stopping........ its a little different.

i am doing something similar right now.

i picked a weight that i could do for 5-6 times........ and i am doing it for 30 reps......... no matter how many sets it takes........

when i get to where i can do it for 30 reps in 2-3 sets......(it took me eight on my first bench day)....... i will change it 50 reps.

then when i can get the same weight within 2-3 sets for 50 reps...... then i will up the weight significantly.

for example....... i benched 235 for 5, 5, 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 2.

when i do it for 15, 13, 12...... i will bench for 50 reps.

by the time i get to where i can go 20, 17, 13 on bench with 235lbs........ i will up the weight 70lbs and start off with 305 for 5-6 reps for 30 reps again.

it sure as heck beats the boring same old routine.

X
 
I've been doing something like this for awhile now. I especially like doing it with shrugs. I'll pick a weight that I can do about 15 reps with, then set it down, rest about 5-15 seconds and pick it up and do some more reps. However, I can't imagine using this method on an exercise like squats. I'm too much of a wimp for that.
 
All I gotta say is that there's a lot of lactic acid surging through those muscles. ouch! I tip my hat to the people that do this kind of training. Gotta be 100% savage.
 
anyone who hasnt TRIED a 50-rep set is missing out. A real challenge and a change of pace. Do it!

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I'm going to squat 50 reps with 135lbs just to get a taste. I need my legs to walk! I haven't gone over 5 reps in anything in a while.
I have squatted 225 30 times before (disclosure: just to parallel, I didn't go ATF at the time) . It would be awesome to get that up to 50.
 
I am going to read this and train like this for a week starting monday
 
i finished my week of working out like this.......


30 reps on everything.

Bench - 235lbs - 8 sets
dips - bodyweight(240lbs) - 7 sets
military press - 115 - 6 sets

squat - 315 - 8 sets
straight leg dead - 225lbs - 6 sets

chinups - bodyweight - 9 sets(dang im heavy to pull up)
shrug - 225 - 6 sets
bb curls - 100lbs - 6 sets.

it was a hard week and i hurt all over........ i will try this again in 2 weeks......... i will post the results.

X
 
For those who have tried this...

How did it compare to your regular workouts for muscle growth? Did you gain much size? How about strength?
 
well this week is just static holds...... but ill tell you what.

i know its mental but i feel like i am staying fuller than after most workouts....... its only been 1 week....... so time will tell.

but i basically get a break......(if you can call static a break)

but either way...... the latic acid will be gone and it will be time to try it again next week.

i should have a lot better results then.

im still exicted about this workout........ it may take me a year...... but if it does...... and i can squat 315lbs for a set of 27 then a set of 23......... yeah it will be worth it.

X
 
B-fold, I was a bit skeptical about the 50 rep set, so I thought I would try it on a muscle that has very little function for me. Biceps.

I did 50 reps with an empty olympic bar. I managed to get 20, 15, 8, 4, 3 changing grips each time, and the last 2 sets being done with a reverse grip.

Now I cannot remember the last time I even curled, so anything may have seemed difficult, but that whupped my arse!!! I am impressed, and I may throw these in from time to time on different exercises.

B.
 
Glad you like them...I may try them for biceps too...

B True
 
There's nothing like 50 rep squats. I always try to do 3-4 sets of these a month with about 365 - 405 and holy shit do you get a pump. 50 set squats/incline presses/Db Military presses should be a staple in anyones training program.

cheers
 
bfold-

i tried this on legs today, not sure i did it exactly right, but here's what it looked like, tell me what you think: i must say i was whipped. do you do one set only until you get to fifty or what? this was where i was confused....i tried two sets of everything

Plate loaded squat press- 90lbs first set 50, second set 35

squat-cybex machine--50lbs first-40 second 30

kneeling leg curl-cybex machine-20 lbs rt leg 35 lt leg 33
15 lbs rt leg 29 lt leg 28

Leg extension-single leg- 30lbs rt 30 lt 30
20lbs rt 29 lt 28

sldl- 50lbs 36 only did one set, not sure why, but my low back started to ache.

i took a 2 minute break between sets. ran out of time, so i couldn't do the rest of my leg workout. reading back over this thread, i don't think i did it right, would like some input. i liked the burn i got and would consider doing this about once a month for a change.
 
I think that maybe you should shoot for doing 4-5 sets with the reps totalling 50...with little rest between sets if possible. I remember a friend of mine doing this with 500 on the deadlift. They would start out with a set of 10-15. Next set would be about 8-10. Next would be 5-6 and so on till they were only doing singles and finally got 50 reps.

Just because you didn't follow the program doesn't mean that what you did was wrong. Find what works for your body.

B True
 
in that case,then i could bumb the weights back up, correct? i lowered them way down to less than half of what i would normally do. thanks for your response, it was a great workout either way. ;)
 
Yeah, you could/should bump the weights back up in my opinion...

B True
 
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