FIBER On Ketogenic Diet.. Should It Count As Regular Carbs?

[MonStar1023]

*Does FIBER Count As Carbs On KETOGENIC DIET?*

I was curious if whether or not FIBER should be counted in Total (g) Carbs while doing a CKD type diet??

 

[pstagg]

No.

 

[MonStar1023]

pstagg...

Aight bro thanks.. I know who you are from WBB.com haha you definitely know you shit. Thanks for reply bro.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

if fiber contains carbs, then it counts

 

[MonStar1023]

Huh? Bro I was talking about (g) of fiber..

 

[MS]

Although fiber is a carb it does not count towards carb intake because your body cannot digest or absorb it. You merely shit it out.

 

[Crazy K]

There are two types of fiber:
Soluble and insoluble. Soubles (like apples or citrus) gel in water and can actually "grab" onto fat and move it thru digestive system. Insolubles (like leafy greens & grains) absorb water and help to "move things along". But both are resistant to human digestive enzymes.

I think if you take a fiber supplement that gives you the fiber (g) without eating the actual foods, NO it doesn't count count. But if you eat fiberous foods than some of those carbs will turn to sugar.
Apple pectin fiber is inexpensive and not a "gassy" fiber.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

I might be wrong but i thought mr. X said fiber intake does count, and cozmo disagreed and said it doesn't count.

I know tha general atkins diets say it doesn't count.

But i'm not too sure...... When my diet is totally disciplined and i'm eating close to zero carbs , i dont' wanna even take a slight risk to fuck things up.

I used to drink diet coke like a maniac, but now i found out tha citric acid "may" kick u out of ketosis,,, i'm not gonna risk it though , so i dont' drink that anymore (it used to be my fav )

Anyways,,i gotta get some keto sticks..then i can tell for sure what fiber,diet coke, etc. does to me.

I guess everyone is different also.

EVERYONE GO GET SOME KETO STICKS!

Laterz..

 

[MS]

Ummm the definition if fiber is carbohydrates that cannot be digested by the humans. It should not be confused with fiber rich foods which may also contain a lot of digestible carbs. On a keto diet there is nothing wrong (in fact it's a good idea) with downing some metamucil or other CARB free fiber. If you're not on a keto diet then you don't need to count the grams of fiber towards your daily carb intake.

 

[MonStar1023]

I AM CONFUSED!!

BUMP!!

 

[KillerLoop]

Take a fiber sup on a CKD or you will only shit on your carb up, and I mean SHIT!! Taking zero fiber is VERY unhealthy.

 

[MonStar1023]

I am wondering whether or not grams of fiber in food for example count as grams of fiber? For example if I eat cashews that contain 8g of carbs but 6g of those carbs are grams of fiber is the carb count for that 8g or 2g?

 

[KillerLoop]

Straight from a CKD FAQ:

Does Fiber count as carbs?
A: The short answer is no. If a food has 10 grams of carbs listed and indicates 8 gms. of fiber, the carb count is really only 2 grams. Again, the tolerance for the carbs associated with the foods that contain fiber is an individual thing.[Homer Culley]

 

[MonStar1023]

BUMP

 

[MR. BMJ]

No fiber is not counted towards carb energy. Depending on how viscuous and fermentable the type of fiber igested, it will be taken up by either the lower or upper gastrointestinal tracts where it is used as a laxative, or it will ferment and be used as energy in the form of short chain fatty acids. If the fiber is fermented, it no longer will contribute to your shit bulk. Therefore, finding nonfermenting fibers will help with your bowel and constipation problems. This will also depend on how much fiber is used in the diet, how much colonic microflora is present, antiobiotics that may be taken, and other components of your diet that are consumed, etc.... Currently used, the energy contribution from dietary fiber has an assigned value of 1.44 kcal/g for nonstarch polysaccharides and 2.01 kcal/g for resistant starch.

MR. BMJ

 

[cytrix]

soluable fiber counts, unsoluable fiber does not, since you never know how much of the fiber is soluable, it's the safest to count it all. atkins says that to, they call all countable carbs, incl. the ones coming from soluable fiber "countable carbs".

 

[Big_Al1970]

From reading the Atkins book and speaking to people who help with the Atkins diet, "dietery fiber" should be subtracted out from the total number of carbs. The body does not process dietery fiber. Lettuce has carbs but its dietery fiber. Havent you noticed when you go to the bathroom you see the lettuce in the toilet? Its kinda like corn!

Big Al

 

[MonStar1023]

OKAY experts help me out..

should it count or not??

 

[Blood&Iron]

You've asked a question but are not listening to the answers.
Please don't take this as any sort of criticism but many of the questions you've asked previously, including this one are dealt with extensively in FAQ's, etc on the subject of CKD's. Asking legitimate questions is not a bad thing, but when people have pointed out a source which will effectively answer almost any question you have it is much simpler for you and other board members if you actually read the information. Many have posted this address before, but I'll post it one more time. Read it.

http://www.solid.net/lowcarb

 

[Gambler]

don't count the fiber

 

[rez]

it doesnt make sense..fiber comes from carbs, and there arent any carbs on a keto diet..so whats there to count?

 

[MS]

No no no Rez, you've missed the theoretical boat here. You could go out and eat the entire tree in your back yard, which is mostly carbs, and not gain any calories from it. A keto diet does not (and should not) mean a lack of fibrous carbs. It merely means a lacks of digestable carbs. To put it in grossly oversimplified terms "fiber=good"; "sugar=bad".

 

[rez]

so you can still be in ketosis if your salads w your fats and pro?

 

[KWKSLVR]

Go read the labels of foods designed for low carb diets. They'll say something to the effect of:

Total Carboydrates: 4 grams
*Dietary Fiber: 2 Grams
Sugar: 1 Gram

*Total digestable carb count is 2 grams.

If you are on Atkins, the rule of thumb is to subtract Fiber count from Total Carb count to get total digestable carbs.

Total Carbs: 7 grams
Dietary Fiber: 2 grams

Digestable carbs = 5 grams.

Its as simple as subtraction.