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Feel much better on d-bol because...

Nathan

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Well, I was getting tired and sleepy for most of the day due to the d-bol I'm taking. I had no lower back pains (just a pumps now and then mainly after lifting) and I was taking milk thistle (GNC brand) at a 800mg-1g ED. I added some cranberry extract to that at 1g ED (in the morning) and no more sleepiness two days later (it hit me mildly for an hour or so yesterday after stuffing myself full of food)! Hooray! Just thought I'd share since a lot of other people seem to have the same problem. Might work for others as well. Hope I continue feeling well.
 
I had to stop Dbol after a week. I was tired and irritable as hell. My appetite was gone, but then again it always goes when I get tired. Anadrol is a much better choice IMO.
Favorite cycle:
Prop - 150mg ED for 2wks
Anadrol - 100mg ED for 2wks
Clomid - 50mg ED for 2wks
Milk Thistle - 1000mg ED for 2wks
Occational Cranberry Extract when needed.
Then I take four weeks off and start all over.
Most people will flame this cycle, but I always made my best gains at the begining of a cycle, so I went with it and love it.
 
But do you notice that you feel better taking both the cranberry extract and the milk thistle? Maybe it's just me but I've seemed to have solved my problem and was hoping to convey the info to possibly benefit others. About that cycle, you should do what works for you dude I'm glad you've found it.:)
 
I use the cran when my kidneys act up. It feels like middle back pain. The Dbol killed me to the point that I didn't want to eat or train. I might try it again in the future to see if my system reacts different, but not too soon.
 
finafiend1 said:
I had to stop Dbol after a week. I was tired and irritable as hell. My appetite was gone, but then again it always goes when I get tired. Anadrol is a much better choice IMO.
Favorite cycle:
Prop - 150mg ED for 2wks
Anadrol - 100mg ED for 2wks
Clomid - 50mg ED for 2wks
Milk Thistle - 1000mg ED for 2wks
Occational Cranberry Extract when needed.
Then I take four weeks off and start all over.
Most people will flame this cycle, but I always made my best gains at the begining of a cycle, so I went with it and love it.
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finafield1, how do you train on these short cycles? Normal progression or do you do different things on/off?
 
I know d-bol is toxic to the liver. What are the chances of getting liver pain from 20mg a week? You guys think nolvadex is needed?
 
Hi, I just finished a d-bol cycle, did not notice any increase in fatique, just bloat, been off about 10 days and the water is starting to disapate and feel better.

for doch910 20mg per week is really low, I was up to 45mg per day. and Yes unless liquidex is available, use the nolvadex.
 
Doch910 said:
I know d-bol is toxic to the liver. What are the chances of getting liver pain from 20mg a week? You guys think nolvadex is needed?
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IMO, you may not even realize that it's your liver or kidneys that are the problem. There are numerous symptoms of liver distress, like fatigue, nausea, dizziness, lower back pain, etc. I just felt tired and knew that many other people had the same problem but pushed past it. I tried the extra liver protectant (cranberry extract) and fatigue is still gone. In my case, it would seem that milk thistle and pant-loads of water isn't enough even at only 25mg ED (which will incidentally probably go up soon).
 
I am always tired when I am on a cycle. I always assumed it was due to the energy it took to grow at such an accelerated rate. I have used milk thistle and cranberry when using orals. The only time that I experienced a lot of kidney pain was when I went out drinking.... bad idea.
 
Well, I think there's a subtle difference between lower back PUMPS (which can be painful) and lower back PAINS. Actually, if your liver is hurting you may feel it under your right rib cage (someone correct my anatomy if I'm wrong here), but kidneys should hurt about where you'd have lower back pumps so it can be tough to tell. Actually, I think if the pain is more concentrated towards the middle of your back then that's more likely to not be kidney distress and not llower back pumps but I could be wrong about that too. I guess the pain is kind of a dull throbbing. Hope that helps dude.
 
OK, thanks, just curious cause I ve both, kidneys pain, kind of controlled right now, and lower back injury, so I had doubt if you meant there was a relation between lower back (injury) and d-bol, as I am using it right now on my cycle. And about the fatigue, if I werent adding weight Id swear Im not on the juice, too tired sometimes.

:smash:
 
I know exactly what you mean, but the last few days I've felt fucking fantastic. You may want to consider trying to force down more water or doing more for your liver. The problem could also be too few carbs perhaps. What's your carb intake now? I suppose your body might also be just not reacting well to the d-bol. I hope you feel better though, as I really didn't feel well and know what it's like.
 
Thank you for the respons dudes. I know that 20mg is really low. But this is my frist cycle im doin 3 weeks of d-bol then in second week starting 3 weeks of 300mg decca. Im just terrified at the thought of gyno. I just wanna do it right with no sides. im so paranoid!
 
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NATHAN

I dont know if it is my body getting used to d-bol, the kidney stuff, or maybe my carb intake, that by the way is not very high cause I dont want to get too much fat even when its a bulking cycle, anyway I ve been getting better (except the lower back pain) and the fatigue each day is less it hits me on certain moments of the day, but it is a lot different than the Test, I used to feel like superman and right now I feel like Louis.

:smash:
 
DOCH910

Even at that dose use liver protection, and if you are paranoid of gyn, at least use 1 tab of proviron daily,
BTW I dont know why you didnt start deca at the same time than d-bol cause deca kicks in slowly, same reason to ask you why only 3 weeks of deca, cause when it is kicking in you will be stoping it (if I understood right), and remember the post cycle, clomid and stuff.

Why dont you post your cycle, have you ?
 
Nathan, whose D-bol are you taking? I took Thai's for a while, and I felt great. But I switched to Russians when I ran out of the pinks, and I felt tired on them.
 
I'm taking Ttokkyo @ 25mg (will porbably be upping it soon). I feel fantastic. Just got through with my leg workout and my strength is shooting up like crazy. Squats were up over 10lbs. (more like 15lbs. at same reps as last week) and leg press was up 40lbs. since last week. Aaaaahhh yeeeeaaaaah!!!!:)
 
Nate,

I did the same as you with the Milk Thistle and Cranberry. Also I think what helped me was letting the D-bol disolve under my tongue rather then just swallowing it and letting it rest on your insides while disolving. I felt great !!!!!!
 
Damn, you guys are getting my un-psyched about taking dbol :confused: I am really looking forward to taking it for the first time in a cycle and I really don't want to be tired cuz that would fuk up the training program. On my last cycle (sus/dec)... I was so pumped all the time now i'm adding dbol to the same cycle and if i'm gonna be tired all the time... i'm not sure if i want to take the stuff.
 
Did you read what I said man? Don't be stingy with the liver protectants and all will hopefully be kosher. If you do feel like shit try more liver protectants, increasing carbs if they're too low, or just stop the d-bol. Give it a go. You should be psyched man. I am and I feel great now. It a wonderful feeling.:D
 
Nathan said:
Did you read what I said man? Don't be stingy with the liver protectants and all will HOPEFULLY be kosher. If you do feel like shit try more liver protectants, increasing carbs if they're too low, or just stop the d-bol. Give it a go. You should be psyched man. I am and I feel great now. It a wonderful feeling.:D
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I always use alot of Milk Thistle (I have 4500mg tabs) but, we'll just have to see how it goes. Everybodies body is different, i'm just considered about my shin splints getting worse, i gotta work on my cardio! :bawling: Fuck it tho! Mind over matter!
 
If you dont have liver problems give it a try, besides even besides the fatigue you increase your gains and your workouts. I increased in my first week 3.5 lbs.

:smash:
 
Hey dude. I'm doing T200 @400mg/week and 25mg d-bol ED (will probably end up upping that a tad), oh and Liquidex @ 0.5mg ED. I'm up a good 6lbs. on day 11 or so. Strength is up a pant-load which I'm pleased about. Water retention is only really bad at night but I have gained about an inch on my waist thus far and I'm hoping it's mostly water (damn if it fat!). I'm also horny as heel all the time and can't get rid of the wood I've got all the time. It's difficult taking a piss sometimes.:D What exactly is your cycle like? Obviously, you're using d-bol. Have you been feeling better progressively each day still bro?
 
Thanks Im feeling better but weird, I have some times of the day very good, some other tired, same with the lower back and kidneys, but it has been decreasing every day. BTW my libido is the same since I started my cycle, weird cause I get always very very horny, and right now I feel almost the same, maybe it is the deca.

My cycle is

D-BOL 30mgs. daily for 5 weeks
Equipoise 400 ml. a week. for 10 weeks
Deca 300ml. a week for 10 weeks
Test Cyp. 400 ml a week for 10 weeks.
1 tab of proviron daily.

Im thinking of increasing my cyp to 800mg. on sixth week after B-bol.

I gained in 1 week 3.5 lbs. but no fat, I cant see evidence of water retention, and my diet is as clean as possible (except friday or saturday when I go to a restaurant for a dinner), and Im pissing like a horse, so I guess the proviron is working well, why dont you give it a try?

Damn it, I still miss to be horny all day long, and feel
really strong, I hope it to be a second stege of this cycle.

:smash:
 
I don't have the money for anything else unfortunately. I actually paid the same for 10ml of Liquidex as I would have for 25mg ED of Proviron throughout my cycle, and I should have a little Liquidex left. I might give it a try for my next cycle though. Thanks.:)
 
DEI

Here goes what im going to take. My first cycle probaly be my last for a while not a big AS user. I already look like I take steriods. I have the decca 300mg per 1cc. i have the pink d-bol pills.

Follows:
its a short cycle.

WEEK 1:
15mg d-bol a day

WEEK 2:
20mg d-bol a day
300mg decca one shot

WEEK 3:
15mg d-bol a day
300mg decca

WEEK4:
300mg decca

Clomid not sure how long to start after last shot?
nolva on hand "hopefully"

short little cycle...........
 
I would run the deca for 6 to 8 weeks, starting it at the same time than D-bol, and add proviron.

:smash:
 
i am taking3 200mg pills of milk thistle ed on my cycle. ive been spreading them out. should i be doing this or taking all 3 at a time. if i should be taking all three what time of day should i.
 
I've been spreading them out and that makes the most sense to me. That way, you're getting as even a distribution throughout the day of sylmarin as possible. How do you feel with what you're taking?
 
feeling fine so far. yesterday i only took one pill in the morning and by the night i was getting dizzy spells every time i tried to walk around so im guessing thats what it was from.
 
damn, long post. i'm taking caffeine pills to stay awake with my d-bol & test. prob. not the best way to go about it. feel like i'm gonna bust out of my skin at the gym though. (that's a good thing.)
 
change of plans.... i don't think im going to be able to get clomid and nolvadex so im going to just do a cycle of decca. how long should i run it for i have the 300mg decca. dosages?
 
DOCH 910

Proviron will prevent getting bloated (water retention), and is an antiestrogen too, besides, it will give you a hard look and avoid "deca dick", cause it cause frequent erections.

Clomid will help you to get your test production back, so it is a need, and also to have at hand some antiestrogen like nolva, arimidex, proviron, etc.

:smash:
 
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