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Behemoth

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Aberration
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I am 6'2 284 lbs, 36 yrs old...current BF%24. Diet can be found on the Diet&Bodybuilding forum. Cardio is 60 minutes, 5 days a week. I am not running this cycle until I come in around 250 lbs.

Week 1-12 Fina @ 75 mg EOD
Week 1-4 T3 @ 12.5 mcg ED
Week 4-8 Anavar 50 mg ED
Week 8-12 Winny 50 mg EOD
Week 4-8 T3 from 12.5 mcg to 75 mcg tapering to 12.5 mcg
Week 8-12 T3 @ 12.5 mcg ED
Week 1-2 Clen from 20 mcg to 100 tapering to 60 mcg
Week 5-6 Clen from 60 mcg to 100 tapering to 80 mcg
Week 8-10 Clen from 60 mcg to 100 tapering to 80 mcg

Taurine, ECA

Needing help also with water weight...no matter what I am running I retain water. Fina has never given me any trouble...I simply havent experienced any of the common sides.

No problems with yang. Yang is always up.

My goal at this juncture is maintain lean body weight, Fat loss.

I need assistance with Post Cycle...

Actually all help is welcome....
 
looks decent to me, but you may wanna think about adding test Prop....you can put it in the same dart as the Tren....and adex for any possible bloat (tho prop usually wont bloat)
 
I would do 50mcg of T3 weeks 1-4 and 75mcg weeks 8-12 and i wouldnt worry about the ramping part. Youll be fine.

Liquidex will keep you dry on that cycle. .25mg ed would do the trick with that cycle. .5mgs if you need to.

You dont need to taper down on the clen either. Just taper up so your not hitting 80mcg all at once your first day. I would also run the clen for the first 4 weeks straight at 80mcg and then the last 4 weeks also with ECA in between.

I would add in some proviron to help harden you up and help with your wang. I understand you dont have problems but why risk it, plus proviron is the shit.
 
split the 60 min cardio in 2 sessions. 30 min HIIT in the morning and another 30 min HIIT in the evening.
 
what i do is play with complex carbs bro. one day run out rice like to 6 of 7 meals. then 5 then 4 .... Always have carbs for breakfast though. when i cut out rice i up the greens like salad & grean beans or carrots comething to fill my gut you know. later broski...
 
bigmouth2006 said:
i have you ran tren for 12 weeks before with no test
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Yes, and it gives me WOOD!!!

Looking for more input...
 
Did you run tren before with var and winny? May change things for you with those added compounds. Thus i say 50mgs of proviron ed to help with wood and to harden up.
 
I have never ran var...but have always done winny...

And I know that this is strange...however, when i have ran just Fina and winny...I have had to deal with water weight...
 
What brand was the winny and fina? An UG lab could have switched up and used cheaper compounds in there place?
 
thebigbabboon said:
Yes, and it gives me WOOD!!!

Looking for more input...
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yes i know i would add the liquidex for sure and drop the t3. you are getting ready for a show? just sharing one of my experiences that t3 makes me feel like shit. while on t3 and winny you might just sit at home on that combo. its just something i think about before i add a lot drugs together. what i feel good on to get better results. i mean just because it seems logical on paper doesn't mean its going to work out on you
 
Fina will be made in th kitchen sink.

Winny will be from Syrus labs...

Have never had any "sit at home" feelings...
 
so what do you need help with? your goals are simple.i mean lean mass and lose fat.
add the liqiudex the water weight problem handled and you made i clear that you can handle anything you take so just do the damn thing you know. work hard, train smart, eat heathly. good luck to you on meeting your goals

peace
 
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steelmass said:
Bro someone slipped you some fake fina. No one gets horny off of tren only.
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Made it my kitchen...

I maybe just lookin for something to blame the wood on...

Of course, just mentioning the word "fina"...makes me happy...
 
If I were to sub out the anavar, what would you replace it with...
 
galaxy said:
Did you run tren before with var and winny? May change things for you with those added compounds. Thus i say 50mgs of proviron ed to help with wood and to harden up.
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oh dude he don't need proviron or test apparently all he has to do is make some fina in the kitchen sink and its circle jerk time.LOL
 
thebigbabboon said:
Made it my kitchen...

I maybe just lookin for something to blame the wood on...

Of course, just mentioning the word "fina"...makes me happy...
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Are finaplix pellet cartridges still available?
I thought they were trying to control them a few years ago.
Did the cattle ranchers win out over the anti-steroid paranoia?
 
BBkingpin said:
Are finaplix pellet cartridges still available?
I thought they were trying to control them a few years ago.
Did the cattle ranchers win out over the anti-steroid paranoia?
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I just visited the website that I ordered the pellets from in the past...and there was no problem...it let go all the way through the check out procedures.

Still needing a little more input...

Thanks for the input so far.
 
ok i hear your concerns with water weight but i would add some testosterone to your AAS cycle even if its just 100/mg wk cypionate. galaxy suggested the proviron i like that suggestion. you could use hcg through the cycle as well although that would be more likely to bloat you. but with the adex in the mix that may be enough to stay dry. otherwise without any aromatizing AAS I am not sure why adex would be of any benefit. your water retention is not just an estrogen issue although that is the primary cause most of the time. secondary to that you need to watch your diet which seems to be part of your plan given your goals.

ok now the other thing is these days with GH being available at cheap prices you should add that to your plans. it will help you lean out and ease your recovery PCT, as well as help you hold/solidify lean gains. consider the GH / T3 stack as something to wrap around your AAS / clen plans. given you tend to put on water i would keep the gh at 2iu/day. i suggest you run it six months start right away pre-cycle, to help you get down to 250, then run your AAS cycle, and continue the GH post-cycle and beyond. the T3 i suggest keep at a very modest level only to stimulate metabolism and fat loss but try to avoid rapid heart beat.
 
Damn Bro...

GH for 6 months...

I just checked the prices...and that is way out of my budget.
 
Your upper body reminds me of a friend of mine. Almost identical. he could only dream of your legs tho. Hes got stick.
 
As for your gear I would do the following:

1-12 Prop 50mg EOD
1-10 Tren Ace 75mg EOD
6-12 Winny 50mg ED
1-12 Proviron 50mg ED

Add in Arimidex at .5mg EOD to keep the water away. Finishing with Prop and not tren will aid in recovery. Run your PCT like this

10,11,12 HCG 1000iu's MWF

Day after last prop injection Start:
5 weeks of Nolva at 20mg ED
3 weeks of Clomid at 50mg ED
Keep the arimidex at .5mg eod from day one until you finish PCT.

If you add Ketotifen you can run the Clen longer without cycling it off and on.
 
black sheep said:
As for your gear I would do the following:

1-12 Prop 50mg EOD
1-10 Tren Ace 75mg EOD
6-12 Winny 50mg ED
1-12 Proviron 50mg ED

Add in Arimidex at .5mg EOD to keep the water away. Finishing with Prop and not tren will aid in recovery. Run your PCT like this

10,11,12 HCG 1000iu's MWF

Day after last prop injection Start:
5 weeks of Nolva at 20mg ED
3 weeks of Clomid at 50mg ED
Keep the arimidex at .5mg eod from day one until you finish PCT.

If you add Ketotifen you can run the Clen longer without cycling it off and on.
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Good advice.
 
galaxy said:
Your upper body reminds me of a friend of mine. Almost identical. he could only dream of your legs tho. Hes got stick.
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Does he train them. Some people do not train lower body at all.
 
galaxy said:
Did you run tren before with var and winny? May change things for you with those added compounds. Thus i say 50mgs of proviron ed to help with wood and to harden up.
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Proviron is awesome... def throw that in there, it will harden you up nice.
 
badslinky said:
Proviron is awesome... def throw that in there, it will harden you up nice.
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If you're prone to MPB, it might possibly be the worst offender (mg for mg) of male pattern baldness (hair loss).
 
BBkingpin said:
If you're prone to MPB, it might possibly be the worst offender (mg for mg) of male pattern baldness (hair loss).
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Don't think I have to worry about that. How about you babboon?
 
I have as much hair now as I did 10 years ago...
 
I am not a big advocate of T3...I think it is not sessasary and risky no matter what some people say here. Proper diet and a fuckload of suffering is what I do. I mean I use clen...I have used almost 40mcg a day..thats .40 not .04 but I do not think T3 is needed with clen if you diet hard and only use the clen the last month or so. An assending dose should work and the crash will not be as bad if you cycle down and end with ephedrine stack. I feel most people do not want to go through the suffering of a strict diet. (not implying you mind you.) my last diet for comp. I was 3.4% @ 204#. I was only eating 1800 cal a day at best and only 1 carb meal every 10 days...carbs were 2 cans of green beans a day. As far as your AAS, looks good to me. I do agree with BBkingpin on the HGH...depending on your age....I use 3ius myself with good results. anymore and my wrist hurt bad! I have ran 4 different DHT derivitives at once with 0% hair loss. I think if its gonna go its gonna go if not not. I do not use anything but Nolva PCT. I do 20mg a day for 30 days...thats it. Hope it helps.

Quadsweep
 
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