Fat Burners, i want my 8 pack back

[tempest2003]

hey all, im sittin at 192ish at 6' im running very light dose of prop for about 7 weeks. I want to loose this stubborn layer of fat on my lower abs. what else can I do to shed this? im not using clen any more, my heart hurts. my diet is in check and has been for the last 6 months +, extremley clean and healthy, and my lifting has been going strong for at least the last year, off and on 3 year before this. im doing cardio 3-5x a week for 20-30 mins, lifting 4x a week. ive tried thermorexien and hydroxycut, anyone have any other alternatives? not looking for t3 or t4 either, no thanks messeing w/my thyroid

 

[solidspine]

Same dilemma here,

Need to drop B/F and weight,


It is cardio and diet, no magic formula.


I hate cardio, did it today, and at least got to talk to somebody.


Like you I just need to do more cardio,



You did not like the clen, what kind was it?

 

[Sassy69]

Feel like you're stuck at a plateau? When's the last time you changed your diet & cardio? Your body reflects your lifestyle - so if you eat extremely clean, etc. and have done alll that for a while but can't get past a certain point, time to shock the system. I don't think there's one miracle thermo that works better than the others.

I'd say look at some diet tweaks -- one way to go "down" a layer on diet manipulation is to try a carb cycle -- leverage the pace of fat burning that your body does when it has sufficient carbs to run on by setting up that burn rate w/ a consistent level of carbs, and then do a short term drop of the complex carbs part of your diet (many ways to carb cycle / carb rotation - can replace carbs dropped from diet w/ same cals in fats -- that keeps your total cal intake the same, or just drop the carbs & not replace them, run those days also at a lower cal level as well) -- but only do it for like 2 days - your body will continue to burn fat at the rate it has been because it expects that its getting the same amount of carbs to fuel your activities -- but then increase carbs back to the start level just before your body realizes that it is actualy not getting as many carbs as it thought and would then start adjusting down metabolism (burn rate) to meet the lower energy source input and preserve the enery sources stored (bodyfat).

Could also change up your cardio w/ some HIIT or sprints or something.

Those sorts of tweaks will get you results more predictably than drugs. These are the tools competitors use regularly as part of the cutting process for show time.

 

[Mac173]

Diet first. But if you are looking for supplements what about the ECA stack.