Failure ...

[Bacchus]

Failure Training...

I don't want a big HIT jedi to answer this, but I'm sort of confused on the point of failure training at all (in size and strength).

Let's say you're on your 8th rep for something that you can do 10 reps on and you've already got a burn (so you've done a few non-maximal sets already). What are the positives and negatives of going to the 10th rep and then failing on the 11th? Then .. what are the benefits of going on to do another set to failure or negatives or something after that?

 

[protobe]

well look at it like this your muscle will spurt into growth the more stress on it. So lets say you are on your 11th rep at a 10rep basis, if you brin git down that negative on your 11th rep you are exerting a lot more stress just from that one negative this will tax your bodyparts. After going to failure i would try another set the same way and if its too hard drop down like 20-30lbs and do what you can ( like 5-6 reps b/c you are taxed)
this is a lso a great way to bring your strenght to new levels by lifting more than your normal 10 rep or 8 rep you are stressing your muscle and after a while you will be able to hit that 8 rep 12 reps instead than its time to bump up the weights.

 

[STEP OFF]

well look at it like this your muscle will spurt into growth the more stress on it. So lets say you are on your 11th rep at a 10rep basis, if you brin git down that negative on your 11th rep you are exerting a lot more stress just from that one negative this will tax your bodyparts. After going to failure i would try another set the same way and if its too hard drop down like 20-30lbs and do what you can ( like 5-6 reps b/c you are taxed)
this is a lso a great way to bring your strenght to new levels by lifting more than your normal 10 rep or 8 rep you are stressing your muscle and after a while you will be able to hit that 8 rep 12 reps instead than its time to bump up the weights.

what??

 

[SoloFlex]

it's kind of like masterbating

usually when you masterbate once, you have to wait a while before you do it again

that's reaching failure

 

[casualbb]

.... right....

Anyway, there's no benefit from going to failure in either growth or strength perspectives. Strength athletes seem to have no problem accepting this, and many powerlifters are inhumanly strong AND big from never hitting failure.

Bodybuilders seem to want to cling to the idea. There really is no reason for it. The short of it is that a "failure rep" doesn't produce any more growth than a "non-failure" rep. What it does do is induce proportionately more fatigue and necessitate longer recovery. So you don't grow any more, but you have to wait longer to train. Sounds silly to me.