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OK, so no I am not gay, but I was wondering why some people think that two women being intimate with each other is cute & cuddly & sentual & all that other stuff, while two guys being together would be considered weak, immoral, & well--just faggy? Even most chicks that I talk to say that they would consider doing another chick under the right circumstances, but think that two guys going at it is nasty. I mean granted, I would rather see two chicks going at it any day of the week, but Im a horny dego bastard too. Why this double standard? Any theories??
 
I think it's just that women's bodies are considered as a symbol of beauty and....well....men's aren't. I feel the same way....I'd rather watch two chics than two guys.
 
dballer said:
wern't you supposed to set me on fire????

Funny how a guy who thinks that gay men are immoral seems to find his way to all the gay threads aint it?! I think I might have mistaken your hatred of homosexuality for curiousity pal. Now aren't you missing the 700 club or something?!?! Get lost!
 
There's no penetration involved with women. The disease factor is close to nothing with lesbian activity. There's no poop involved. Plus it's mostly men and other lesbians who enjoy watching/participating with two women. I know a lot of straight women who find lesbos to be disgusting.
 
roidog420 said:


Funny how a guy who thinks that gay men are immoral seems to find his way to all the gay threads aint it?! I think I might have mistaken your hatred of homosexuality for curiousity pal. Now aren't you missing the 700 club or something?!?! Get lost!

Where were the idle threats??? ? Your not yourself latley... DOG!!! :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: The 700 club was already on dude. BTW DOG... when did I ever use the word HATRED... I just said it is not a part of my morals. Yes I admit, I think faggots are morally incorrect.
Now set me on fire DOG!!!! :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
Oh yeah hey DOG,..... the thread where you said you were going to set me on fire.. and you threw a cute little temper tantrem.. that was about the Houston 500 gang bang chick. But that was a nice try at a comeback Dog....
 
Speaking for myself I can say it's not insecurity here.
Don't forget guys the vest vest majority of female homosexuality are models acting out the part and are normally very very good looking. What happen's when you see two nasty, fat, hairy women have sex ?. It won't be the turn on you expect. I work part time in nightclubs are see gay activity all the time so I'm speaking with experience.
Plifter, why bring diease into it ?. Do you think it's healthy when another woman rim's the ass of her partner ?, it's finger's her ass then bring that same finger into her pussy ?.
I would say 99% of 'gay bashers' on elite are made by immateur teenagers or adults with very small lives.
Gay's, men and female, have the same emational and sexual needs as ourselves the 'straight community'.
Bouncer
 
call me wierd, but lesbians do nothing for me as far as eroticism goes. it's just really trendy right now... like look at me i am a lesbian... ohhh. let's stir up some controversy or something... that annoys me. homophobia annoys me too, in fact everything annoys me and i have more issues than time magazine.


Rich
 
plifter said:
There's no penetration involved with women. The disease factor is close to nothing with lesbian activity. There's no poop involved. Plus it's mostly men and other lesbians who enjoy watching/participating with two women. I know a lot of straight women who find lesbos to be disgusting.

Lol..there's no poop involved. Thats probably the best explanation I've ever heard on the topic dude.
 
I love men..but seeing two men get it on DOES nothing for me. I also love women, but have no interest in getting it on with another woman...unless of course, she had a nine inch tongue...hehehe
 
dballer said:
Oh yeah hey DOG,..... the thread where you said you were going to set me on fire.. and you threw a cute little temper tantrem.. that was about the Houston 500 gang bang chick. But that was a nice try at a comeback Dog....

I know what the thread was about man. Dont try & skate the issue here either. That is that your curious as to what it might be like to have a big old penis up your pooper, and thats why you have to ACT like you hate it so bad isn't it??? You just dont want to admit to yourself that you have those nasty urges do you man? I mean, that would go against everything that your mommy, daddy, and Reverend childmolester taught you to believe was so "immoral" now wouldn't it? Hey dont feel like Im attacking you specifically pal, I think the same shit applies to anyone & EVERYONE who thinks the way you do. That includes Faldwell, Robertson & all the other closet homo moralists. I mean why does someone who supposedly thinks that something is "immoral" spend so much time wasted thinking about it? DONT FIGHT YOUR FEELINGS is my point man!
 
roidog420 said:


I know what the thread was about man. Dont try & skate the issue here either. That is that your curious as to what it might be like to have a big old penis up your pooper, and thats why you have to ACT like you hate it so bad isn't it??? You just dont want to admit to yourself that you have those nasty urges do you man? I mean, that would go against everything that your mommy, daddy, and Reverend childmolester taught you to believe was so "immoral" now wouldn't it? Hey dont feel like Im attacking you specifically pal, I think the same shit applies to anyone & EVERYONE who thinks the way you do. That includes Faldwell, Robertson & all the other closet homo moralists. I mean why does someone who supposedly thinks that something is "immoral" spend so much time wasted thinking about it? DONT FIGHT YOUR FEELINGS is my point man!

I have heard this argument soooo many times, and the best anyone can do to back it up is to cite "American Beauty" as a relioable source.
The theory you present has no weight behind it.
If it were true, all of you who push so hard against organized religion would be "closet Christians". Otherwise, as yoru reasoning goes, why would you "spend so much time wasted thinking about it?"

If anyone can cite unbiased and reliable medical/psychological journals which prove that all people who are averse to homosexual sex are actually homosexual, I'd like to see it.
 
Personally, I think most guys talk big. "Yeah, I'd love to see two chicks gettin' it on... "Yeah, two's better than one, etc." "Yeah, I'd get off seein' two hot girls," blah, blah, blah.

Hell, I love watching two women go at it in a movie or something...BUT, I think homosexuality is disgusting.

My main point: I don't EVER want to see another penis...seeing another penis will take me OUT of the mood. Check out some of teh blow job pictures on 'Between the Sheets," they're sick.

I like to pretend that the girls that get it on in porn movies, in magazines, etc., are just in it for the money, and are actually heterosexual.

*If* I were presented with the opportunity to be with two girls at once, I have no idea what I'd do. I guess it would depend on who it was...

Lesbians are gross...Two hot naked women rubbing, touching, licking, etc., IS NOT!

How ya's like that logic!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Weapon X said:


I have heard this argument soooo many times, and the best anyone can do to back it up is to cite "American Beauty" as a relioable source.
The theory you present has no weight behind it.
If it were true, all of you who push so hard against organized religion would be "closet Christians". Otherwise, as yoru reasoning goes, why would you "spend so much time wasted thinking about it?"

If anyone can cite unbiased and reliable medical/psychological journals which prove that all people who are averse to homosexual sex are actually homosexual, I'd like to see it.

In this case I was beakin balls bro. I wasn't trying to present any theories, although Im sure that the scenario applies in alot of cases. As far as the whole "closet Christians" thing, I think that it is very possible that people who question Christianity are people who just want the SLIGHTEST bit of proof that it is worth it to waste away your time here on earth living your life by a set of rules that some would say prevent one from "living life to the fullest", in order to get to some sort of "better life" after you die. So yes, I think that alot of people who question Christianity are "closet Christians" as you put it. They spend alot of time thinking about it because they know in their heart that they want it to be true. Thats why they question it.
 
roidog420 said:


In this case I was beakin balls bro. I wasn't trying to present any theories, although Im sure that the scenario applies in alot of cases. As far as the whole "closet Christians" thing, I think that it is very possible that people who question Christianity are people who just want the SLIGHTEST bit of proof that it is worth it to waste away your time here on earth living your life by a set of rules that some would say prevent one from "living life to the fullest", in order to get to some sort of "better life" after you die. So yes, I think that alot of people who question Christianity are "closet Christians" as you put it. They spend alot of time thinking about it because they know in their heart that they want it to be true. Thats why they question it.

roidog, I give you props for showing consistency in your reasoning!! Thank you.
 
For the guys who think homosexuality is disgusting.

Do you believe it's unnatural too ?.

I mean, if a man has sexual and emotional feeling for another man and he never experience's these same feelings for another woman it has to be natural, right ?.

For the disgusted few here, what is Flex1 to do with his feelings for another guy so, suppress them to make you feel good ?.
I think that would be disgusting. Sorry for using your name here Flex1.

Bouncer
 
bouncer said:
For the guys who think homosexuality is disgusting.

Do you believe it's unnatural too ?.

I mean, if a man has sexual and emotional feeling for another man and he never experience's these same feelings for another woman it has to be natural, right ?.

For the disgusted few here, what is Flex1 to do with his feelings for another guy so, suppress them to make you feel good ?.
I think that would be disgusting. Sorry for using your name here Flex1.

Bouncer

For the folks who think that homosexuality is a natural human sexual drive,

Do you believe that there are any human sexual practices (no matter how rare) that are unnatural or just wrong? If so, do you think that people who have these unnatural or wrong desires should suppress them to make you feel good?

Weapon X
 
I've seen two good looking women go at it in person. I must say it turned me on. I've also witnessed some fat ugly ho's and it did nothing for me. Attractiveness has a lot to do with it.

Bouncer, rimming is pretty low risk as far as diseases are concerned (it's very high in regards to the level of disgust though)
 
roidog420 said:


I know what the thread was about man. Dont try & skate the issue here either. That is that your curious as to what it might be like to have a big old penis up your pooper, and thats why you have to ACT like you hate it so bad isn't it??? You just dont want to admit to yourself that you have those nasty urges do you man? I mean, that would go against everything that your mommy, daddy, and Reverend childmolester taught you to believe was so "immoral" now wouldn't it? Hey dont feel like Im attacking you specifically pal, I think the same shit applies to anyone & EVERYONE who thinks the way you do. That includes Faldwell, Robertson & all the other closet homo moralists. I mean why does someone who supposedly thinks that something is "immoral" spend so much time wasted thinking about it? DONT FIGHT YOUR FEELINGS is my point man!

Dog.. in other words.. the fact that I do not find it in my morals to be with a man makes me have an urge? Where does that put a man who violently threatens someone with my beliefs? If I did have an urge I would just ask you what it is like.. but I am sorry. I don't really care for AIDS or anything else. I am not big on lesboz either. I never fight my feelings... that is why I speak them to people of the homosexual persuasion, like yourself!!
 
bouncer said:
For the guys who think homosexuality is disgusting.

Do you believe it's unnatural too ?.

I mean, if a man has sexual and emotional feeling for another man and he never experience's these same feelings for another woman it has to be natural, right ?.

For the disgusted few here, what is Flex1 to do with his feelings for another guy so, suppress them to make you feel good ?.
I think that would be disgusting. Sorry for using your name here Flex1.

Bouncer

No... I am against the idea of gay sex. But what is not right for me does not mean it is not right for you. What I mean... I am not going to protest someone elses ideals... unless they are forced on myself or my family. Now, Bouncer.. you have kids.. or a kid. I am sure that you are a great father. My point is here, would you not be upset if someone other than yourself shoved morals into your childs head? That is your job as a parent. Not the teachers. My dilike for gays goes as far as my personal space and the classroom. I am not a fag basher.. I just don't like it. There is no reason for someone to threaten my life over my beliefs... I am the radical here.. but find a post where I made threats against someones life for their beliefs... here is what I am talking about:
Originally posted by dballer
I am sure you are familar with my views. I want to let you know I think she is worse (morally) than gay men. I think that is filth.. I cannot understand how she is not dead either.
SICK!

RoidDog420's reply .... (remember, he is the understanding pro-homo liberal here)Originally posted by roidog420
Shut your fucking suckhole you little moralist cocksucking pussy motherfucker! Why dont you go back to watching Jerry Faldwell & watching kiddie porn! If I ever meet you, Im gonna set your ass on fire! There is no God & who needs a God to judge people anyhow when we have lowlife holier-than-thou wife beating pussies like you to do it right?!
 
Ok Dballer point taken regarding my childrens morals.
However I would'nt be upset if my son or daughter had a gay teacher, what I would get pissed at is if that teacher pushed gay views on the kids. BUt I'd be equaly upset if a straight teacher tried telling my children homosexuality was wrong !.
Naturally as he grows up I'd prefer him to be straight, but if he was to come and tell me he's gay later I don't think it would be the end of the world. Of course I'd be disappointed, but if he was leading an otherwise constructive life and doing well for himself, and achieving all the other dreams we share for our children I'd wish him all the best. That goes for my daughter also.
When I used the 'gay bashing' term it was an unfortunate choice of words because the thread is going fine, but at the time I was thinking about most other gay threads on e/f which quickly turn into a gay bashing thread.
The only type of gay male which I find unnatural is the 'camp' gay. The guy who's all girly, thats unnatural and has to be put on. Even real women are not that 'girly'.
Plifter, so would you lick a lolly which was run up some chicks ass before you bought it ?.

Bouncer
 
oh hell it's obvious ppl don't suppress their urges.. i think a lot of it is brain wiring.

AND what's acceptable in the culture... screwing children is ok some places, etc, etc..
 
smallmovesal said:
oh hell it's obvious ppl don't suppress their urges.. i think a lot of it is brain wiring.

But do you think that people have th eurge for pedophilia and bestiality should suppresa those urges "just to make you happy," as bouncer put it?
 
smallmovesal said:
screwing children is ok some places, etc, etc..

So, if you think that's wrong, would you ever speak out against it? Or would you consider that 'intolerant"?
Just asking, no flame.
 
well, to some extent i just think it's other cultures... but if it appears to be harmful and hurtful to the people involved, then i'd say something...

in my culture, i do expect ppl with bestiality and pedophilia to not do that because it's unnacceptable... HOWEVER, this is a TOTALLY different issue than homosexuality... shit, the romans did it to each other...

and, i know that for instance, in some aboriginal cultures, gay people have the utmost respect.

it just isn't the same thing, and i can't argue it because i doubt i can explain myself well enough.
 
smallmovesal said:
in my culture, i do expect ppl with bestiality and pedophilia to not do that because it's unnacceptable... HOWEVER, this is a TOTALLY different issue than homosexuality... shit, the romans did it to each other...

1.) The Romans also had sex with animals. That make it okay? They also fed Christians to the lions. Why use the Romans as your guide to Morality?
2.) How is the sexual preference of bestiality different from the sexual preference of homosexuality? If you can't explain, then perhaps you haven't thought about it enough.
 
don't tell me what to think... i believe it's natural and that's how i feel...

and perhaps the romans are not the best example.. except to say what's acceptable shifts with time and between cultures....
 
smallmovesal said:
don't tell me what to think... i believe it's natural and that's how i feel...

How have I told you what to think? I'm just trying to see the rasoning behind your decision. Still looking.
 
smallmovesal said:
and perhaps the romans are not the best example.. except to say what's acceptable shifts with time and between cultures....

Agreed, However, I do not believe taht what is right and wrong changes over time. I just believe that cultural preferences change over time.
 
smallmovesal said:
well if you have it so thought out then tell me why you think it's so wrong...

I believe that homosexual behaviour is harmful to individuals and society as a whole for several reasons;

Scriptural
1.) Yes, the Scriptures (both Old & New testaments) make no bones about the fact that God has commanded us not to commit homosexual acts. (Lev 20:13) (James 1:13-15) (1 Corinthians 6:9)
2.) Jesus the Christ upheld the Jewish Scriptures, and as the earthly incarnation of the God who is "the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow" (Heb 13:8). Jesus preached a message of repentance; that the sentence of sin could be averted by true repentance and turning away from the sinful behaviour. He said, "Go, and sin no more." (John 8:11)
To restate, we all sin, but the key is to turn away from the sin and repent of it, not to keep committing the same offenses believing that all will be forgiven.

Secular
3.) In my own life I have had many homosexual friends, and the neighborhood in which I lived for a few years in Seattle was predominantly gay. I saw the excesses, the abuse, the imbalance an dexcesses, the sadness, the emptiness, the destruction that the 'lifestyle' leads to. I heard how many of my 'gay' friends had stories of sexual abuse from their childhoods; that seemed an almost constant thread in their lives, perhaps contributing to their homosexuality.
4.) I have seen, in my own more than 30 years of life, that the farther I stray from God's instructions, the worse my life, health, mental state, etc. get, and teh closer I stay with God's instructions, the better things are. And I see this is on a sociological level as well. With the most 'gay' cities being the most crime-ridden areas with the worst drug probs, etc.
Not saying that the homosexuals are resonsible for the crimes, just that the environment that welcomes such "tolerance" also suffers other problems due to am inability to put their foot down for right and wrong.
 
wow i'm a born and raised catholic... they were so hardcore bible "proof" that it drove me nuts because i just inherently believe otherwise... which is weird, because of anyone in my family, my mum and i are the most liberal about gays, abortion, etc... than anyone else in my family. especially me.

i don't look for truth in the bible... that's not to say i don't have beliefs, but i don't seek my answers in organized religion. i try to be a good person and respectful towards others.

otherwise, your life experience definitely must colour your view... and i can understand that. i'm sure all of those things happen, but that's not to say it's the case for everyone... the same things happen to straight ppl... and most straight, white men are molesters than any other group for some reason.
 
dballer said:


Dog.. in other words.. the fact that I do not find it in my morals to be with a man makes me have an urge? Where does that put a man who violently threatens someone with my beliefs? If I did have an urge I would just ask you what it is like.. but I am sorry. I don't really care for AIDS or anything else. I am not big on lesboz either. I never fight my feelings... that is why I speak them to people of the homosexual persuasion, like yourself!!

Your "morals" have nothing to do with YOU man. In fact your morals have everything to do with your judging of OTHER peoples lifestyles, while assuming yours to be the "right" lifestyle. You see, that is what I cant stand about people like you who presume to tell others how to live. Its comes with the presumption that you yourself are actually sticking to the principles that you preach. When I say principles, Im talking about the whole gay hating thing, sex before marriage, abortion, etc. You chose to act like you are above the natural urges(sex)that all people have & instead of accepting your humanity, you chose to hide behind some bullshit religious code that enables you to sit back & bash others while assuming yourself to be pure or whatever you want to call it. Guys like Faldwell, Robertson, Jim Baker, Billy Graham all push the same agenda as you are trying to do & they all end up to be fornicating little horny bastards just like the rest of us humans in the end dont they. I am cool with them getting their freak on, but it makes it a little annoying that they chastise people for doing what they are doing behind closed doors. You are no better than they are in my opinion. You preach on the immorality of gay sex, but I'll bet a nut that if two gorgeous porn queens wanted to give you a show, you'd be right there with your little willy in hand wouldn't you? You'll tell others that gays are immoral until your kid ends up being one. You'll preach about how abortion is murder, until your daughter(if you ever have one)brings home an illegitimate kid. People(like you) who have these close-minded views are quite pathetic & have not been around many different cultures of people, or people with different lifestyles obviously. I have been a bartender for many years and have met many gay men & women, & thus I know that they are just people & I HAVE NO RIGHT TO PASS JUDGEMNET ON SOMEONE WHO IS THE SAME AS ME-----HUMAN!!!!!!! You, on the other hand, think that you are more than human I guess, and are able to scorn people who are mere mortals. So you can call me gay if you want to dballer, I dont care. I am secure in my sexuality & so you spewing that shit doesn't bother me at all(which is more than I can say for you obviously). I love women, but if a gay guy hit on me, I would not be offended; again because I know Im not gay & am not afraid that the dudes gayness may rub off on me somehow---thats called HOMOPHOBIA dude, and you've got a case of it!! As for me threatening your life, GET OVER IT!!! It was a friggin internet post you little baby! What are you afraid that Im gonna pop through your IM & set you on fire for real?!?! God, not only are you an arrogant judgemental homophobe, but your a snivling little pussy to boot! I think most gay guys would whip your ass by the sound of things, so you might want to keep your opinions to yourself from now on.
 
roidog420 said:
Blah.... Blah.... Blah.....
You'll tell others that gays are immoral until your kid ends up being one. You'll preach about how abortion is murder, until your daughter(if you ever have one)brings home an illegitimate kid. People(like you) who have these close-minded views are quite pathetic & have not been around many different cultures of people, or people with different lifestyles obviously. I have been a bartender for many years and have met many gay men & women, & thus I know that they are just people & I HAVE NO RIGHT TO PASS JUDGEMNET ON SOMEONE WHO IS THE SAME AS ME-----HUMAN!!!!!!! You, on the other hand, think that you are more than human I guess, and are able to scorn people who are mere mortals. So you can call me gay if you want to dballer, I dont care. I am secure in my sexuality & so you spewing that shit doesn't bother me at all(which is more than I can say for you obviously). I love women, but if a gay guy hit on me, I would not be offended; again because I know Im not gay & am not afraid that the dudes gayness may rub off on me somehow---thats called HOMOPHOBIA dude, and you've got a case of it!! As for me threatening your life, GET OVER IT!!! It was a friggin internet post you little baby! What are you afraid that Im gonna pop through your IM & set you on fire for real?!?! God, not only are you an arrogant judgemental homophobe, but your a snivling little pussy to boot! I think most gay guys would whip your ass by the sound of things, so you might want to keep your opinions to yourself from now on.


I said I do think being Gay is not to my moral taste... I did not say "RoidDog420, do not be gay." I am not gay.. I do not understand it.... nor do I want to. I still do not think that the way you keep pushing the little kid thing is right either.. but we are not talking wrong or right are we Dog? If I go back and read your posts.. I find that it (in your mind) is ok to be gay. Ok not to believe in God. Ok to understand and accept homosexuals. But it is wrong to think that gays are not morally correct. Hmmmm who is the whiner here? Besides.. you were the one who opened up the topic. You opened up the topic to get opinions, right? I am over you telling me your gonna beat me up and set me on fire... I just keep bringing it up because it reminds me of somthing a 6th grader would do. I know you think most gays would whip my ass.. but the truth RoidDog.. I would never let one of them touch me. You have no idea of how big and bad I am.. do you? Your threats never scared me... cause I have been to your hometown and I remember what people from Greensburg were like. HAHAHAA It is funny.... I remember a friend from Brookline stomping the guts out of a big scary football player from Greensburg back in 1986..... was that you? And your love for women can be judged by your anger towards me saying "I think gays are not morally correct" So go ahead and keep calling people wimps and pussies... cause your IQ matches the Dog part of your handle.
 
dballer said:



I said I do think being Gay is not to my moral taste... I did not say "RoidDog420, do not be gay." I am not gay.. I do not understand it.... nor do I want to. I still do not think that the way you keep pushing the little kid thing is right either.. but we are not talking wrong or right are we Dog? If I go back and read your posts.. I find that it (in your mind) is ok to be gay. Ok not to believe in God. Ok to understand and accept homosexuals. But it is wrong to think that gays are not morally correct. Hmmmm who is the whiner here? Besides.. you were the one who opened up the topic. You opened up the topic to get opinions, right? I am over you telling me your gonna beat me up and set me on fire... I just keep bringing it up because it reminds me of somthing a 6th grader would do. I know you think most gays would whip my ass.. but the truth RoidDog.. I would never let one of them touch me. You have no idea of how big and bad I am.. do you? Your threats never scared me... cause I have been to your hometown and I remember what people from Greensburg were like. HAHAHAA It is funny.... I remember a friend from Brookline stomping the guts out of a big scary football player from Greensburg back in 1986..... was that you? And your love for women can be judged by your anger towards me saying "I think gays are not morally correct" So go ahead and keep calling people wimps and pussies... cause your IQ matches the Dog part of your handle.

Man what are you talking about "the little kid thing"? I never said anything about any little kids. Also, I opened up this topic to get opinions--you are right! What did I get from you though dickhead? You whining about what I said to you in some other thread. And now your gonna accuse me of not wanting to hear an opinion that differs from mine. Thats bullshit & if you would have responded intelligently to my post, I probably wouldn't have even remembered that it was you who I said that(on fire)to before. Whatever man have your opinion, your entitled to it! Your not entitled to judge ANYONE though & THAT is what I have been calling you on. And by the way.....ooooooooo you've been to Greensburg! Now I should be scared of you right?! Grow up!
 
after reading 2 pages of this verbal discourse, i have come to the conclusion that homophobia is promoted by pious clergymen and terrified heterosexuals.
 
I'm very open about homosexuality as you have seen in my posts, but still I have NO desire to see two guys going at it. I simply don't find men attractive at all. I love women and the more I see together the better. Now one of my close freinds is gay, the idea of two women together makes him gag. Go figure.
 
I dont give a shit what people who I am not involved with do in their bedrooms, their biz not mine.

I have my own sexual likes and dislikes and thats it. In fact whats turns me on today may not six months ago cause variety is king.

Now I have a question for the fag bashers out there. how come so many of you guys who bash gay guys for their sexual fun are so obsessed with dicking chicks in the arse.
Not that I am against that myself, BUT I find it funny that you bash dudes who wanna bang each others butss cause thats gross or gay but doing a "gay" act to a woman is cool.

Hope this ruffles some feathers.

And no offense to any overly moral guys and girls here, but either you are full of shit or boring as fuck in bed.
 
Strange bedfellows are we.

This thread contains some pretty honest thought.

Millhouse:
I have never fucked a woman up the ass - so at least I am consistent in thinking that it is both unnatural for males and females.

Funny that I find myself in agreement with Plifter here - PENETRATION is the big difference between male and female homosexuals.

Weapon X as always has well researched views and clearly has put the cosh on smallmoves reasoning.

My own take on this is that I started work as an actuary back in 93 , and one of the very first tasks I was involved in was to examine the effects AIDS was having on the heterosexual community. So many declared heterosexual deaths from the disease had abrasions on their rectal cavities that suggested some homosexual activity. Bottom line was that AIDS didn't have an effect (then) on heteros in Ireland.

I've done a lot of work on statistical interpretation of populations over the years and personally I feel that there is little evidence to support a theory that anything more than 0.5% of a population could be BORN homosexual. Therefore once again I find myself in agreement with the Weapon in that enviromental factors are far the dominant influence in the formation of this behaviour. Hence it is fair to call it "unnatural".
 
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