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face problems need help!

i be kiz

i be kiz

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I'm 16 years old and my acne is worse than almost everyone else i know.. yet it isn't at a level for which i feel that accutane is a neccessary step. I have tried proactiv and a crapload of stuff from my dermatologist, but none of it really has worked. Most of them work for about a week and then almost as if i have built a resisitance to them, they stop. Also, I could use some advice on facial care in general...right now all i do is use an exfoliate in the morning, then the proactiv series and then at night the proactiv again..what else should i be doing. thanks:fro:
 
Firstly, how would you classify your acne? Mild, moderate, or severe? Secondly, how would you classify your skin? Dry, oily, or combination? Also, would you say you have sensitive skin?

Do NOT use an exfoliator if you have lots of acne, that'll only exacerbate the condition because you will break open any existing lesions in turn spreading the bacteria around your face. This only causes more acne. Moreover, when using an exfoliator, you should only use it a few times a week, not everyday. Exfoliators can be very harsh on the skin.

Use a GENTLE CLEANSER such as the popular Cetaphil. Wash your face once in the morning and once at night with warm water. Overwashing will be counterproductive and only make things worse.

If you feel your skin is dry, you may need to use a moisturizer. There are tons of moisturizers out there, but I'm personally not a fan of using one.

Try using aloe vera gel on your face as a mask a few times a week at night (leave it on at night, wash off in morning) as that'll help tighten, rejuvenate, and aid in your skin recovering.

Try to avoid using any internal antibiotics a derm may put you on. Over time they will become resistent and are also damaging to your liver. Instead try using a topical medicated cream/gel. The most popular is Retin-A, though there are others like Tazorac and Differin that are popular as well. These are MUCH safer to use in the long-run, however, the downside is that they take a little while longer to work (often months). If your acne condition is very severe, these creams/gels are not the best option.

Lastly, do NOT pick or overwash or harshly rub your face, because if you have sensitive skin that'll only irritate it.

Hope that helps!
 
if you have "volcanic" acne, then I do think accutane is the best option. Acne scarring is less correctable than anything accutane will do to your skin. ON another note, accutane does have some harsh sides, so use the lowest effective dose possible.
 
from the time when i was like 15 to 19, i had acne. It was never that bad (none of the red blotches or big guys, just a hand full of little ones), but no matter what i tried it NEVER WENT AWAY... i went from everything from soap to retin-a. Everything would work amazingly for a period of a week, then its like my body adapted to it and it became useless.
Long story short, When i was 19 I finally got put on accutane... a year and a half later, still havent had a single zit, blemish, blackhead... whatever

i will warn you though, its harsh stuff.... your skin is dry as a bone, your lips are chapped 24/7, and if you open your mouth to yawn or wahtever, your lips split... but dude, DEFINITLY worth it
 
If you have very oily skin I would strongly suggest going and buying some vitamin b5 - panothenic acid. You can do a search online for it or go to some place like acne.net and searching. I swear that this stuff works just as well as accutane. It actually works like accutane, it dries up the oil in your skin, where as accutane shrinks the oil producing glands. It really works, NO joke, the only difference is you have to take a lot of it, 20 pills a day (5 times a day, 4 pills at a time), but its a water soluable vitamin so its all good, it just costs a good amount. ALso it will not make your acne go away for ever, it will just make it go away while you take it and then you reduce the dose to 4 pills a day and you can take it until you turn 18 or 19 and your acne goes away (if your lucky) I took accutane about 7 years ago and although it worked for 6 months the acne came back, and I had some bad side effects like blood noses daily for 5 years after stopping it and hair loss. Also before I started accutane I had acne on my face only but after stopping it I started to get it severly on my back, chest and shoulders, and I have had it for 5 years despite the acne on my face has finally gone away. If you do try it out you should also take 300 mg of biotin a day and vitamin b12, to stop dry lips that you will get.
 
b5 did shit for me... best advice i can give you bro is TAKE CARE OF IT NOW. The longer u have it, the longer you have to deal w/ self esteem issues and risks of scarring as well.
 
You've gotten good advice here. Thing is, everyone is going from personal experience, and that's basically what everyone has to go by.

I also tried b5 and it, too, did not work for me. All I got was some MAJOR diarrhea!

Accutane works for some, but doesn't for others. Don't be mislead into thinking it is a miracle CURE, because it is NOT! It is extremely harsh on your body and there are tons of sides...accutane should be used as a LAST RESORT.

We don't know anything about you. What exactly have you been on? What alternatives have you taken?

I suggest going with things that are simply and not as taxing on the body first, then working your way up from there if those don't work. I suggest you start with a TOPICAL medicated cream like Retin-A, Tazorac, etc (less less harsh on the body as it is not internally taken) and possibly b5 at a moderate dose, slowly working your way up (start low at 1 gram/day then slowly go up to the recommended 10gram/day if you don't notice anything).

If you do choose to go with accutane, make sure to take your LIVER PROTECTANTS! Get r-ala, milk thistle, NAC! Drink plenty of water and stay out of the sun.
 
if u go accutane, start w/ the lowest dose, tell your doc u want the lowest, regardless what he recommends. I have PERSONALLY seen severe acne completely dissipate on 10 mg ( ithink) the smallest does available.
 
don't know if this will help you or not, but this is my basic routine. I assume you brush your teeth twice a day so you can do it at the same time:

1) wash hands
2) rinse face with warm water
3) apply Noxema to face (stuff in that blue plastic container)
4) swish/brush your teeth
5) rinse off Noxema

Do this before hitting the shower in the morning and before bed at night. Good luck.
 
I've tried differn gel and some benzoclin... and bunch of other things. right now im trying solvere. it's a 4 step thing im using once a day which has a cleanser then a benzo peroxide...then a stridex pad thingy and finally a moisturizer. I am having some self esteem issues as it is because of this and would like to nip this in the butt. I am considering accutane after what i've read here. Typically after starting the program how long does it take to see results?

P.S I'd say my acne is moderate. mostly little zits with the occasional large one.
 
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takes awhile for some people, and things often get worse b4 they get better. Just do it, get it over with, and have clear skin. Remember don't drink on accutane either... liver is already pissed off at you :P
 
You have to stay on accutane for 8 months and sometimes you have to go back on it for another 4-8 months if your acne comes back.
 
dro i thought the set time for a prescription was 5 months (20 weeks) also my acne isn't as horrible as some of the accutane journals i've seen so i highly doubt i'd need another 8 months.

Im delaying for a bit because the solvere i've been using seems like its having a bit of an effect. I'm having my parents call my dermatologist to get the scoop. Thanks for all the info provided here.
 
ya i took accutane and it helped a ton i took a MEGA DOSE of that shit

120 mg ed for 6 months and i wanted to go 200 mg but he wouldnt go for that


i break once and while but retin A mircro in gel form helps awasome
 
Bro you're only 16 years old. Your body right now is going through a stage where your hormones are all over the place. Your acne may go away naturally on its own anyway.

I think this is a major problem with accutane...everyone goes straight to it. It can seriously screw up your body, and especially at such a young age.

As for dosage, someone mentioned 8 months and that's wrong. Usually it's only 6 monhs...sometimes less. Your dosage depends on your weight, but I agree, if you are going to use it, start at the lowest possible dose. You're only 16 remember! Protect your liver and do not consume any alcohol while on 'tane! Have your moisturizer on hand because your lips, nose, skin, etc will most likely dry out.
 
my acne is worse than mos though, and i haven't had clear skin in about 3 years. If i can get this over and done with in 6 months then so be it. I don't drink so that isn't a problem. I smoke the occasional joint or two to relax.
 
this is irrelevant. Your dermo will give you advice that you should not ignore. Personally, I would take the weakest dose of accutane available and see what you get out of it.
 
man from about grade 8 up until a 2yrs ago (19 now) mine was horrible,mad volcanic acne,I was on everything but accutane and its now gone to very very mild acne,some red marks and a bit of bacne but I would def reccomend accutane ,I didnt have a insurance plan until last year so I didnt get the stuff,but acne sure makes teen life hard ,so really try accutane or wait it out and you will probably grow out of it
 
well i went to the derrmo and she put me on minocyclin and tazorac ( a Retin-a product stronger than Differn) she said that we'll try that out with a benzo peroxide in the morning and see how that goes. if that fails then accutane here i come. hopefully retin a will be my savior. I was wondering if i should completely stop shaving with my mach3 and just use my electric. I could see how the manual would agitate my face more. Also she said i should use eucerin or neutrogena mouisturizers. does anyone have a better alternative? thanks guys.
 
do not use minocyclin. It will clear your face but if you don't plan to use it for the rest of your life or until your acne goes away (could be age 25), then its a bad idea. All antibiotics only work while your taking them and then your acne comes back very strong when you stop, even worse then when you first had it. Believe me my fathers a doctor so I have tryed ever cdamn antiboiotic out there. The tazorac is fine but will just take a month or more to start working.
 
i was just wondering because i am already on pills but they haven't got rid of it, and i'm taking about 8 a day ( not too good for my liver), are these Accutane any good 'cause if they are i might get some?!?
Thanx in advance
 
LeeJunFan said:
does anyone know if you can get this accutane over the net??
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wouldn't suggest it. it is very very strong stuff. I was on it for a while and it dries your skin out something fierce. Face peeling, lips constantly chapped, arms with dry skin spots all over them. If you can handle it , it works.
 
i wanna get some but i live in the UK and i don't think we have it over here?!?!
I have tried everything else and nothing seems to work, this stuff sounds good though
 
i bet you can find accutane in the UK. you DO want to have your progress monitored by a derm though, for sure.
 
matto18 said:
i bet you can find accutane in the UK. you DO want to have your progress monitored by a derm though, for sure.
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definitely. they have to monitor your cholesterol through several blood work appointments.
 
i disagree with some people here, go for the Accutane immediatly because every day you sit there using these useless products like Proactiv, which does work for very light acne, you are getting closer and closer to acne that will scar you for life.

get on it, the side effects are a bit fucked, like your lips will be dry and cracking, really bad and hard to even open mouth, but you can see the shit disappearing after 2 months, after 6 months amazing, after 8 months u could be done, go for it, there are different doses.

and CETAPHIL is thebest cleaner, NO QUESTION
 
dont get accutane unless your acne is severe dude..

I fuckin hate zits.. i have pretty clear skin, but i always get a couple fuckers on my chin, just below the sides of my mouth and they make me angry as hell.. i'm 26 y/o..

i've been taking b5 since the summer.. thought it was helping but i dunno now...

i use some prescrip lotion (benzyl peroxide & somethin else) 2 times a day.. i have used it for years now and it helps clear them up, but it doesnt stop them from appearing..

i party quite a bit, drink beer, smoke weed, do other drugs (hopefully not anymore)... and this could be part of the prob for me..

i do remember one period of time not long ago when i had really clear skin...
i changed my pillow cases/sheets every other day, i washed my face 3x a day and used that lotion 2x a day..
morn: wash with clean&clear deep cleaning, oil fighting cleanser, then clean&clear astrigent, then lotion
afternoon: same without lotion
evening: same as morning

i did this cause where i worked was very dirty air, my skin was always dirty, and the lotion made it sortof oily

the b5 now takes care of the excess oil.. so i may try that clean and clear shit with the lotion 2x a day again and see how it goes

what i have been wanting to try tho, and i think it is the real cure, is doing a liver cleanse... your liver filters and rids your body of toxins... when your liver isn't doing this 100%, the toxins leave your body via your skin, hence zits

i have taken pills that are meant to cleanse your liver over a period of time before, and what happens while taking them? lots of zits... it foces the liver to get rid of all the toxins it is holding, and the only way for them to leave your body is thru the skin... so it makes sence... i noticed after i took those pills for about a month, and after breaking out pretty bad, that my skin was clear for a while... (untill a summer of partying fucked it up again)..

i think that if your liver is in tip top shape and doing its job propperly, you wont get nearly as many zits... I'll be doing a cleanse soon and i will let you know how it goes..

keeping in mind, your acne is probably mostly hormonal, but still, it's worth a try.
 
I hear what you're saying, so you reckon if you take something like 'Tyler Liver Detox Factor' which you can get from the AF store, it might help?
Thanx
 
well, i think you need a clean liver... if your liver aint functioning 100% then0 that toxic shit is coming out your skin and you'll get zits...

BUT, while taking those liver detox pills, get ready for lots of zits.. those pills cleanse your liver, some of what it is cleansing the liver of will exit your body via skin.

afterwards i bet youre glad you did it tho.
 
just an update...im on tazorac, minocyclin and benzoyl peroxide....and im slowly but surely clearing up...no more cysts, no redness, and all the pimples i have are now no larger than a pinhead...also the breakouts i get clear up much quicker and i can see a difference in my face everyday.
if for some reason this goes horribly wrong, my doctor said she wouldnt hesitate to give me accutane if i so pleased.
 
Tanning...It'll dry up the oilely skin you got and i that dont work atleast you'll be darker so the acne wont be noticeable
 
i be kiz you should be aware that minocyline is antibiotic and not only will the bacteria in your body become ammune to it and it will not work anymore after a while, but also within a day of when you stop taking it your acne will come back twice as bad. This is an unfortunate side effect of antibiotic treatments for acne.
 
yea i've heard that before dr0, but i've spoken with a few doctors and there's about a 2 month long waning proccess from the drug...it's not cold turkey and the body usually repsonds well to it. i've also spoken with several people who used the same regimen as me and had no problems . for some reason i think it's the tazorac (retina-a) doing most of the work.
 
my doctor gave me some shit called Stievamycin Regular Gel.. (tretinoin .025% and erythroycin 4% ...whatevr that shit is).. from what i read i gather retina-a is the same thing as tretinoin and i keep reading that your face will get red and peely for the first couple weeks of use..... this shit says to apply a thin layer to clean face before bed.....

i be kiz, have you noticed a "getting rid of layers of skin" process since using retina-a? or has your skin been more red?

I seem to always only have a couple zits on my chin so i have yet to try this stuff.. it hasn't gotten to the point where i wanna beat someone for a while.
 
try exfoliating while/after cleansing then sleeping with a drying lotion like "mario badesque drying lotion" or other non irritative dryer... then in morning LIGHT exfoliation and moisturizer. keeps me lookin fresh :D
 
i be kiz said:
yea i've heard that before dr0, but i've spoken with a few doctors and there's about a 2 month long waning proccess from the drug...it's not cold turkey and the body usually repsonds well to it. i've also spoken with several people who used the same regimen as me and had no problems . for some reason i think it's the tazorac (retina-a) doing most of the work.
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retin a is good shit DONT USE TOO MUCH though


dont pop zits....repeat dont pop them just let them go away


and dont touch ur face
 
actually i noticed that most of the red around patches of acne was completely gone...so im not too sure about that.
 
ok


get some retin a .1 PERCENT

put it on ed at nite and lite amount

take some B5 get the powder stuff.... www.pumpnpose.com

take 5-10 grams a day....


ok go see a derm or skin speicalist and get a series of chemical peels 3 of them spread 3 weeks apart (U WILL BE SO HAPPYA, they get rid of redness and basically a new layer of skin)

never ever touch or pop them never pop them

give this time (9 weeks and if not almost clear) u may need accutane

if u got the big ass zits (cysts) go to a derm and he can inject you with cortisone shots to rid the zit (THEY HURT BUT ZIT IS GONE IN 2 DAYS ) :D

just keep us updated
 
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