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Ok why the hell do i torture my self like this? I bust my ass everyday in the gym for the hopes of being on the cover of a magazine? But u see, that will NEVER happen b/c all the girls i see on the covers and in the mags have NOOO muscle at ALL :mad:

All they have are big Fake ass Boobs!!!! It makes me mad, Shoot for all the $$ I spend on ASS i could of had a nice pair of boobs by now. And I probablly could have been on the cover in a already. It pisses me off, :mad:

Ok theres my little rant for the day :D
 
GIRL!!!

You are DA BOMB!!! I just looked at your pics! I've always thought you were great looking and now you're RIPPED!!! You'll definitely get in a mag someday!

I had never seen your face, I think you and spatts are VERY good looking!!! ...course I love brunettes, petite ones, too!!!

Seriously, go to fitnessboard.com or fitnessboards.com I forget. Look under pictures of babes for a guy named XtremeBikini...it's Michael soandso who is a photographer for MANY fitness models...JulieAnn is posting on there now! He'll let you know how to get started and get in a mag or two!!!

Good luck and don't get so discouraged, You are GREAT!!!:D
 
If I may play devils advocate...

Ive been there. At one point I was 270+lbs, and I gave up a lot of muscle in the hopes of commercial viability (I wont go into details).
I said basically what youre saying. I said that there are no "big" guys in this field. No one bigger than a good sized natural.

Youre looking at the same thing I did. Just from a different angle.

(Check your PM's before you read on...)

What you need to do is seriously assess your goals. I mean really, and honestly.
What magazines are you talking about? If you mean something like MuscleMag, then no, you wont. They (like you said) want little to no muscle and big fake boobs. The easiest thing to do is accept that and live with it.
If you are thinking of a more bodybuilding/SERIOUS fitness magazine (because come on, those girls in Muscle Mag are NOT fitness ANYTHINGS! Theyre bikini models plain and simple), then yes, you can shoot for that. It wouldnt be hard for you to attain either.
There are only one or two areas you need to work on to really be in a position to get to that point (if that is the kind of magaziine youre aiming for). I wont go into details, since some of it has to do with the pics of you that I saw that no one else did, but suffice it to say that Ive trained women who started their career in far worse condition than you! So youve got AT LEAST one up on them already...

Dont get discouraged, and really... assess your goals. I wish I would have done that first, before I sacraficed 40lbs of muscle only to find out that smallness wasnt for me... :bawling:
 
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Hey girl! You have such a killer look now -- unfortunately what seels is not what "you" want but what the "paying public" wants... which, btw, is prob ultimately T & A. BUT.... just remember to keep YOUR goals in mind -- if your goal is to sell magazines, then do what u gotta do. If your goal is to achieve a certain look and get the chance to find an opportunity to use that look to get on a cover, then focus on that. Dont compromise yourself or your goals.
 
:bigkiss:

Keep at it girl.....somewhere, someone is gonna want your look and have the same goals in mind as you do :)
 
awwww you guys are the best :D U made me feel so much better,,hehe

U all are so very right, I do need to keep my goals in mind, and that is to be jacked and shredded,, with that goal i will be able to do competitions, and get my foot in the door. And then see where that leads me.

I just get discouraged sometimes b.c i dont know what i want to do with my life,,hehe All i do is sleep and workout, work,haha right i dont focous on work b/c i focous all my time and thoughts about working out and how i can improve my body,, thats not a healthy out look. But i figure if im trying to perfect my body i mine as well get paid for it right, ( hehehe right and then i woke up)

No but seriously thanks for the inspiration, this is one of the reason i love this board :D

And who knows maybe soon u will see me and BrickGrl on the cover together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehe
 
HBG baby dont u know its all about whos dick your sucking from the people who have pull in the *industry* and not how good u look? lol havent u read my stories about ths filthy indusry?

u look great stop killing urself and fucking with all the AAS..and dont get fake tits u look great without them..fake tits re a dime a dozen...dont be like the rest of the clones and followers in this world be yourself..you look great. see ya soon
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hardbdygrl said:
Ok why the hell do i torture my self like this? I bust my ass everyday in the gym for the hopes of being on the cover of a magazine? But u see, that will NEVER happen b/c all the girls i see on the covers and in the mags have NOOO muscle at ALL :mad:

All they have are big Fake ass Boobs!!!! It makes me mad, Shoot for all the $$ I spend on ASS i could of had a nice pair of boobs by now. And I probablly could have been on the cover in a already. It pisses me off, :mad:

Ok theres my little rant for the day :D


I love all women of different sizes and shapes. If every chick looked the same then it would suck. I am sure you are beautiful in your own way and that is something special. Covers on mags are chicks with tons of surgery, make-up, camera angles and touched up with computer graphics, therefore it's fake and I want real, not make pretend.
 
LOL

Accept it. Most men like big breass. Its feminine and very sexually appealing. Small waist, full hips and big breasts=ideal women in mens eyes.

You can spend forever busting your ass in the gym but to most guys it wont make a god damn bit of difference.

You call us pigs for this. Im sorry but thats the way we are built. Dont fight the nature of the beast, learn to accepit and work with it or the beast will eat you. (and Im implying this in a psychological manner)

Yes i know there are a few guys out there who say they dont care, love you for the way you are blah blah blah. You have either happened upon that one in a million guy who REALLY doesnt care or he is FUCKING lying.


PS

Muscular women with flat chests DO NOT look feminine or sexy. Stop deluding yourself. If you DONT care about that, more power to you but dont think for a second that a 200lb muscular women is turning the heads of most men because they think you are sexually appealing. They are looking because they think 200lb muscular women look like freaks.
 
aysh, I don't even know what to say about the last reply to this...

HBG - you look INCREDIBLE and dont doubt it for a second!
 
Hobgoblin, your first mistake is in thinking that someone actually cares about your response, your second mistake is in thinking that they way you think, is the way men think. You are thinking like a 16 year old BOY starting puberty and not a man. When you become a man, your opionion will be more relevant, until then, keep stroking in the bathroom to what you wish you could have. And I say that in the nicest way possible :)
 
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Spatts,

How nice of you to say that. You can be the polite one today, I'll be the bitch.

No, the opinion that 'muscular women are freaks' is NOT WELCOME! How many times have we had this fucking discussion?

This board is about fucking WOMEN"S BODYBUILDING! Coming on here & telling us what we're working for is disguesting is NOT WELCOME!

& excuse me, but The "average" person is a fucking idiot & I don't give a shit what they find attractive

Lets take a look back a few decades to what ""the masses" found attractive? How absurd were fashions in the 80's for example? Fuck the masses, I wanna look how I wanna look.
 
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Milo...Milo...Milo

Opinions Vary....if you want some little stick figure of a girl, with no muscle tone...who's back is always hurting from carrying those 400cc plastic bags on her 115lb frame...that's up to you. Unlike you...I will not attempt to speak for most men. However, I prefer a woman with some meat on her bones...some muscle tone. A woman that isn't afraid to break a nail....but who can still clean up like a model. The best of both worlds as I see it.

If you still aren't sure that "200lb muscular women" can be sexy...let me once again refer you to Spatts avatar.
 
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Gladiola said:


No, the opinion that 'muscular women are freaks' is NOT WELCOME! How many times have we had this fucking discussion?

This board is about fucking WOMEN"S BODYBUILDING! Coming on here & telling us what we're working for is disguesting is NOT WELCOME!

& excuse me, but The "average" person is a fucking idiot & I don't give a shit what they find attractive

Lets take a look back a few decades to what ""the masses" found attractive? How absurd were fashions in the 80's for example? Fuck the masses, I wanna look how I wanna look.

Excellent response, Gladiola. There are women out there that are going to read something like this from some ass and think she looks like shit. What she should be thinking is that she's worked hard for herself.

Anyway, he's grouping all women into the 200lb category. Well, asshole, women are tall, short and everything in between. I am quite certain of some woman that are 180 or even 200 that you wouldn't be able to take a guess as to what they weigh.

All women who are muscular are not freaks. What a shit you are. We have gone from looking at the REAL point here- how wonderful HBG looks. And, how hard she has worked for it. She's not 200lbs, yet she's muscular and looks friggin' great.

If you want to be an ass, stay with your own kind:mad:

Torchy:)
 
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Hannibal said:
if you want some little stick figure of a girl, with no muscle tone...who's back is always hurting from carrying those 400cc plastic bags on her 115lb frame...that's up to you.

YUMMMYYYYY...........
 
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Gladiola said:
Fuck the masses, I wanna look how I wanna look.

The average person is just that....AVERAGE! What fun is that? To turn this thread back to HBG...you look GREAT. Please don't give up your goals to "fit in". Just find a different magazine cover to be on. For every man that thinks women shouldn't have muscles....there is a one that thinks that women with muscle tone is very attractive.
 
Yeah for real HBG we been telling you since day one you look great so don’t kill yourself, and for what? To get on the cover of a mag? That after a few weeks no one will remember? I mean granted that’s a HUGE accomplishment and I’m sure something you’d love to do..but you don’t need a pic of you on the cover of a mag to tell you that you look good. Each type of mag looks for different things, and each persons body type is different, some are marketable and some are not, even if you do look amazing.

I don’t know much about agencies in FL but I do know about them in NY, I know a guy who would look at you and tell you what u need to improve on or change or what he can use you form from print work to tv commercials and even movies, so get your ass up here and ill set you up with him. I hooked my buddy up with him and he got him in an independent film about bodybuilding, both him and Frank Sepe.
 
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Hannibal said:


now why am I not surprised?

:lmao:



Hey come one now its like flavor of the week with me.. I like ALL types exceptt fat chics blah

Girls the size of Bethany Howlett down to the size of brittany spears…but if you are skinny and or skinny fat and no boobs then yuk not for me..i don’t mind no chest as long as you got some abs and muscles to make up for them…

Don’t tell me those hot 19 yr olds with size double zero pants, 105 lbs and 34dd REAL chest at your favorite tanning salon don’t make you salivate just a LITTLE hannibal lol come on you know what I’m talking about…dont lie
:D :D
 
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NY Muscle said:

Don’t tell me those hot 19 yr olds with size double zero pants, 105 lbs and 34dd REAL chest at your favorite tanning salon don’t make you salivate just a LITTLE hannibal lol come on you know what I’m talking about…dont lie
:D :D

Well obviously you have me mistaken for a boob guy. Not that there is anything wrong with cleavage. I can stare at them with the best of them. But DD's with no ass is a no go. Those size double zero pants...I wouldn't want a woman that could fit her ass in them. I would rather a woman wear a size 10-12 and the waist hang loose on her. I lean more towards the athletic type. As you can now see where my preferences are. Of course I will take a great smile and a beautiful pair of eyes (the important stuff) over T&A...but there's no rule that says you cant have both...now THAT'S the gooood stuff.

BTW...what's a tanning "salon"??? :confused:
 
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Men are not "built" to like small waists, big breasts and tiny muscle-free bodies -- its a cultural norm. More than that, its a CURRENT cultural norm - in other words, a trend. Look at the women who were considered beautiful 50 years ago, 75 years ago, 100 years ago! In Brazil, for years the biggest plastic surgery procedures on women were breast reductions and buttock augmentation because there, a sexy woman has small breasts and a big butt. Hell, that's the beauty standard for a LOT of folks from Brazil to Brooklyn! And there are billions of Asians who manage to reproduce and find each other sexy even though many Asian women don't have tiny waists in comparison to their hips or breasts.

Black men have a term for women who are "big", solid and curvy in a muscular way: "thick." It's what Caribbean and W. African men call "sweet." And it is NOTHING like Calista Flockhart with a boob job! I went out with a guy who, when he felt my big muscular calf, GASPED in delight. I wasn't lifting at the time, I inherited these giant things from my grandma who had ripped calves at 70! He told me that it was good that my legs were solid, not like other women whose legs were soft, in his words, "like bread."

So, different strokes for different folks. Women have to be happy with THEMSELVES and the bodies they want to achieve. It's an uphill battle in the image biz, but keep ya head up, HBG!
 
Hmmm....

I think most of you are confused about what I am saying or I just communicated it improperly. (probably the latter)

I do not like skinnny girls...period. I like VOLUPTUOUS women with meat on their bones. 5'6" 150 lbs biug breasts, small waist and nice child bearing hips. Some muscle tone and a soft feminine voice. The women I LIKE are considered FAT by todays standards. BUT I DONT GO WHINING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH ABOUT IT.

I DO NOT think that women should look like 200lb bricks with no tits...and UNFORTUNATELY for most of you most of society agrees with me. Too fucking bad for you. No magazine cover for you. try some weird womens bodybuilding mag...they'll love you.

You want to go against the norm, MORE POWER TO YOU. But dont think for a second that most men find you attractive. THEY DONT.
Most women dont think you are something to aspire to and kids are probably scared of you.

And if you are even closely resembling a women in your psychlogical profile then you DO CARE what men, yes even average men think about you. Unless your gay, its very important to be attractive to the opposite sex.

REMEMBER FUCKHEADS WE ALL STARTED OUT AS AVERAGE PEOPLE AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU MAY TRY AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPEND IN THE GYM YOU ARE STILL JUST JOE AVERAGE ON THE INSIDE. YOU HAVE THE SAME HOPES DREAMS AND DESIRES AS EVERY OTHER DUMB ASS ON THE PLANET AND ALL THE SHIT THAT YOU PUMP INTO YOUR BODY DOESNT CHANGE THAT FOR A SECOND OR MAKE YOU SUPERHUMAN. PHYSICALLY OR PSYCHOLOGICALLY.

Some of you have a severe case of bodybuilders mentality. but in all the years I have spent in the fitness industry I havnt met too mahy female bodybuilders who were not completely fucked in the head.



You are all sadly deluding yourself.
 
Dont worry star

I include my self in the "fuckhead" catagory.

I just dont fool myself into thinking Im better than the average person or that my opinion matter more because I have bigger arms or more muscle than joe average.

If you want to be accepted by society as attractive then you need to find what society deems as attractive and try for that.

99% of men like women in playboy, hustler, etc...

Last I checked, photos of 200lb women in playboy are pretty damn rare.

PS.

ANY of you show me a good picture of a woman who is 200lbs on stage when she is OFF SEASON and who looks attractive to all my male coworkers and Ill gladly agree with you.

I have a feeling it will be a while before I see this pic.
 
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Milo Hobgoblin said:


PS

Muscular women with flat chests DO NOT look feminine or sexy. Stop deluding yourself. If you DONT care about that, more power to you but dont think for a second that a 200lb muscular women is turning the heads of most men because they think you are sexually appealing. They are looking because they think 200lb muscular women look like freaks.

HEEEY first of all i do not wiegh 200lbs, 2nd of all if saw my pics u would see i do not look like a freak, And let me tell u i know alot of guys who would prefer me the way i am. And the ones who dont, guess what THERE LOSS!!! Im not doing this for the sake of a guy to like me, I want to do it for me, i have other issues with my body, so having breast will kind of fix that for me, it will even out my physic.
 
"Don’t tell me those hot 19 yr olds with size double zero pants, 105 lbs and 34dd REAL chest"

i have never seen one of these myself...
 
well....

I was never implying that you did. But you did complain about big breasted women who were not what you consider in shape being on magazine covers...etc...

you need to be realistic.

Overy muscular women are not generally considered attractive. nothing that the female bodybuilding community does ar says will change that.
 
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Milo Hobgoblin said:
I think most of you are confused about what I am saying or I just communicated it improperly. (probably the latter)

REMEMBER FUCKHEADS WE ALL STARTED OUT AS AVERAGE PEOPLE AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU MAY TRY AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPEND IN THE GYM YOU ARE STILL JUST JOE AVERAGE ON THE INSIDE. YOU HAVE THE SAME HOPES DREAMS AND DESIRES AS EVERY OTHER DUMB ASS ON THE PLANET AND ALL THE SHIT THAT YOU PUMP INTO YOUR BODY DOESNT CHANGE THAT FOR A SECOND OR MAKE YOU SUPERHUMAN. PHYSICALLY OR PSYCHOLOGICALLY.

Ok...when you say that people that want to be different shouldn't complain about not being accepted. I can understand that to some degree...not that I would ever let me stop me.

STILL JUST JOE AVERAGE??! Maybe you are willing to accept mediocrity, but many here are not. Not everyone on the planet has the same dreams and desires. Hell not all the people on this board have the same dreams and desires. Not sure what your point was...but I think you missed the mark.
 
hannibal

Im only saying people shouldnt bash on the average persons opinion, just because they "think" they are average.

A LOT of those people that some of you make fun of or look down on are exceptional in other ways. They have PHd's, 200 IQ's, great jobs, beautiful families.

And their opinion counts, a lot more than you may think.

And if they shun you it DOES hurt you psycholgically.

Why do you think that bodybuilding women become weirder and weirder the longer they stay in the sport. because society treats them differently and eventually it shows.

you may not like what Im saying but the world isnt going to stop turning because you dont like it.

and yes as much as you may not like it WE ALL start out as average.

striving to be more is wonderful....but dont think it makes you better than everyone else. Just different.
 
I DO NOT think that women should look like 200lb bricks with no tits...and UNFORTUNATELY for most of you most of society agrees with me. Too fucking bad for you. No magazine cover for you. try some weird womens bodybuilding mag...they'll love you.

You want to go against the norm, MORE POWER TO YOU. But dont think for a second that most men find you attractive. THEY DONT. And if you are even closely resembling a women in your psychlogical profile then you DO CARE what men, yes even average men think about you. Unless your gay, its very important to be attractive to the opposite sex.

HEY MILO U LITTLE SHIT, WHO EVER SAID I CARED WHAT A MAN THOUGHT ABOUT ME? I KNOW WHAT THEY THINK, AND I KNOW THEY FIND ME ATTRACTIVE, THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS THREAD, OK U PISSED ME OFF NOW, FUCK YOU, WHO ARE U TO TELL ME I WONT BE ON A MAGAZINE COVER, WHO EVER SIAD I WEIGHED 200LBS?????? I AM NOT AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE GIRL DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ME OR ANYOTHER OF THE FITNESS GIRLS ON HERE. YOUR AVERAGE CHICK IS A SOFT SKINNY GIRL. THAT IS NOT ME. YA KNOW THIS IS UR OPINON BUT TO SAY "Too fucking bad for you. No magazine cover for you. try some weird womens bodybuilding mag...they'll love you
IS VEER RUDE AND UNCALLED FOR, SO GO PLAY WITH ALL UR FAT CHICKS AND STAY OUT OF MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!:D
 
MILO IF U DONT LIKE A MUSCULAR GIRL,, WHY ARE U ON THIS BOARD?

Im sorry u are having issues within your self, Awww Im sorry, YOu must obviously you feel a little insecure about your on pysiche. It all makes so much more sense to me now!!!!!!!
 
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Milo Hobgoblin said:
and yes as much as you may not like it WE ALL start out as average.

striving to be more is wonderful....but dont think it makes you better than everyone else. Just different.

I think if you had expressed it this way in the first place...the flame war would not have followed. When you put it this way...I agree.
 
Okay

I apologize to you hrbdygirl.

but dont pretend like you dont care what men think about you.
well.. unless your gay.

and the 200lb thing wasnt directed at you so much as it was directed at female bodybuilders who aspire to get that big.....

im still waiting for a pic from any of you to show all my "average" coworkers...but I guess it just isnt going to happen.
 
just keep telling yourself milo "I do like women, I do like women, I really really do" then maybe you can change the way you feel about them, there is no reason to get frustrated about it, it's okay to be the way you are, if you feel you must "vent" here to express how you truly feel, then do it, we are all here to help each other, just remember and keep chanting "I do like women, I do like women, I do like women" don't stop!
 
HBG

I THINK MILO HAS PISSED ALOT OF PEOPLE OFF TODAY. IN FACT, I THINK MILO PROBABLY PISSES PEOPLE OFF EVERYDAY:mad:


Okay, when you show us a pic of a person with a 200IQ, then we'll direct you to a 200lb women WITH BREASTS and buff.

This is about HBG. Not extreme BB. HAve you swung down to even take a look at her?

Screw you. And, who are you to say FUCKHEADS, asshole.

This has got to stop. The point was missed place a long time ago.
 
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I try.

and hrdbdygirl. You have a very pretty face. But everyone I work with thinks you look like a muscular guy from the front (the shots of you in the red bottoms). As a matter of fact one of them asked me why the bodybuilder guy had his hands on his pecs in the picture. I told him it was a girl. (one where your head was cut oiff the photo and its a front shot). A boob job would do WONDERS for you. But Im sure you "dont care" about that right?

But hell, what do they know, They are just "average" people who dont work out.

And I dont need to convince myself that I like women but it would take a hell of a lot of convincing for me to find most of you female bodybuilders as sexually attractive.

And 200IQ's dont show in photographs, physiques do. :-) (I NEVER implied I had a high IQ and the obvious delimna of me starting ths flame proves what a dumb ass I am)
 
Milo has some good points about what society supposedly prefers, but seems to be rather inept at bringing them across in a civilized manner I think. Quite simply put, the reason that most Men prefer the big-breated-bimbos that are on the covers of Playboy, Penthouse, etc., these days is because that is the look "they" are peddling at this time and most Men aren't picky about what they find attractive in a Female to begin with IN MY OPINION. For example, during the 1960's there was a girl named "Twiggy" who was a poplular model at the time. She was about 80lbs. soaking wet(thus the name), but she was on the cover of practically every fasion mag out there. I think that MOST Men probably didn't find her too appealing, but since that was what they were giving us to fuck at the time, we basically just went with it. If "they" were ever to peddle a "Girls with Cold Sores" line of Magazine Covers, most(not all) guys would still have the "well if this is what they are giving us to fuck, then ok" attitude towards that as well. Again it all comes back to guys not being very particular about Women, as long as she can flash some sexy fuck me eyes, and has a Vagina.


HBG, you'll get that cover someday hunny! You're still very young(at least compared to me) & are already a cut above most other women, with PLENTY of time ahead of you for even more improvements(if that is even possible). I wouldn't be surprised if someday somewhere sometime that Milo gets busted by his Wife alone in the Bathroom with your first cover shoot either!;) Luvs ya kitten.:friends:
 
After the comments you just made, Milo, I don't think I would want to be you right now. Get him, girls... It's open season. Bring it to the flame board....:mad:
 
One last thing

I do have A LOT of respect for anyone who goes through that much work to develop their phsyique.

And as far as muscularity goes. hrdbdygirl...I think you are beautiful.
 
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Milo Hobgoblin said:


Some of you have a severe case of bodybuilders mentality. but in all the years I have spent in the fitness industry I havnt met too mahy female bodybuilders who were not completely fucked in the head.


You are all sadly deluding yourself.


LOL nice :spin: :FRlol: :spin:

My long lost brother MILO...i finally found you
 
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