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[NFG123]

All,

My current cycle (first) runs as follows and I am half way through it!

Week 1 - 6: 20 mg ED dbol
Week 1 - 10: 500 mg sustanon
Week 7 - 12: FINA ED

I ordered finakits fina and it will make 100 mg ml concentration .. it was recommended to me by tech support to run it at 1 cc ED (for 100 mg ED) but I was thinking of 75 mg (.75 cc) ED for the most part ... what is the concensus on the board for doing this.

I will also be using HCG therapy (week 10-11) 1500 iu e3d and clomid when this is all done ...

liquidex .5 mg ED

NFG

 

[Pineapple Devil]

i thought the fina finished out to be 75mg/ml

 

[NFG123]

Mr T said it comes in 100 mg ml concentration for the finakits. A's is 75 mg ml I believe.

NFG

 

[The Almighty]

For a fina virgin I suggest saving money and the golden goodness itself by running 75mg/ed. The results will be more than adequate to say the least.

 

[NFG123]

Will do Almighty,

Thanks guys!

NFG

 

[NFG123]

LOL

Love the quote Almighty ... is that in response to my "was your solution to hairloss to let nature take its course" post?



NFG

 

[The Almighty]

LOL

Love the quote Almighty ... is that in response to my "was your solution to hairloss to let nature take its course" post?



NFG

Yes, that and the hundreds of pms and posts asking if that is me screaming.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

liquidex dose

How is that .5mg liquidex dose working for you ngf123? Any bloat, itchy nips, etc... I'll probably be running that same test dose, except it will be w/o the d-bol but it will be cyp. I hope .5mg ED will be enough.

 

[NFG123]

its excellent. Keeps bloat down. IMO that is plenty for 500 mg test / week, and dbol too.

 

[NFG123]

I decided to run 100 mg for the first four days and then back off to 75 mg ... 'frontload' kindof ... ::shrugs::

ill update the board.

NFG

 

[bigkraut]

Re: Oil doesn't have a limit on steroids.

If you put a high dose of fina in there then it gonna be that high. Who ever said that you can only make fina 75mg/ml is full of it. I made a batch around 100-125mg/ml and I am getting gyno from it now. the next batch should have yielded like 60ml but came out to 100 ? I figured it at around 60mg/ml.

Yeah, I often wondered what kind of a formula was used for determining the final yield of tren in solution following the conversion process. The math some of the kit makers use doesn't seem to add up.

 

[OMEGA]

Yes, that and the hundreds of pms and posts asking if that is me screaming.

it scares me

 

[acid_doctor]

Well, the kits I've used for 2g make an end amount of 24ml (approximately). 2000mg divided by 24ml = 83mg/ml. The math is pretty simple. Take the mg amount of fina you put in and divide it by the ml amount you come out with for an mg/ml final ratio.

 

[bigkraut]

Well, the kits I've used for 2g make an end amount of 24ml (approximately). 2000mg divided by 24ml = 83mg/ml. The math is pretty simple. Take the mg amount of fina you put in and divide it by the ml amount you come out with for an mg/ml final ratio.

Your math makes sense, however, the math I question is the math that gets 75 mg/ml from 2 g of tren in 22 or 23 ml of solution. I was trying to figure out what sort of forumla certain kit makers use to come up with that. They are apparently allowing for some loss of potency in the conversion process. That, I understand. I was just wondering what formula was used to determine the amount lost. How do they figure a loss of aprox 8 to 10 mg/ml in the conversion process.

 

[basskiller]

Well, the kits I've used for 2g make an end amount of 24ml (approximately). 2000mg divided by 24ml = 83mg/ml. The math is pretty simple. Take the mg amount of fina you put in and divide it by the ml amount you come out with for an mg/ml final ratio.

You have no loss factor in there, so your math isn't quite right.




The only way that there is a difference in mg concentrations of the kits is in the amount of oil add to the mix.
Less oil equates to a higher mg concentration. It's also more painfull if he doesn't adjust the the solution ratio.
I can do 4gm of fina in 3 mls of solution... But you do have to crush the pellets first.

 

[acid_doctor]

So, does anyone know how much is lost in the conversion? I'm assuming there is maybe 3cc or less of unusable oil with gunk in it left in vial 1 on a 2g kit, but the tren concentration in that gunk might be difficult to quantify. Does anyone have a good idea how to figure a "loss factor" for various sized kits?

 

[BBBodie]

for me it was less than 1cc lost....works just fine

 

[Tigerparks]

All,

My current cycle (first) runs as follows and I am half way through it!

Week 1 - 6: 20 mg ED dbol
Week 1 - 10: 500 mg sustanon
Week 7 - 12: FINA ED

NFG

Mate, that's exactly the same cycle I'm doing in..... (pant) 16 days time....
What sort of gains have you made so far? And how bad are the sides?

TP.

 

[el cubano]

75mg/ml would be the way to go.

 

[basskiller]

So, does anyone know how much is lost in the conversion? I'm assuming there is maybe 3cc or less of unusable oil with gunk in it left in vial 1 on a 2g kit, but the tren concentration in that gunk might be difficult to quantify. Does anyone have a good idea how to figure a "loss factor" for various sized kits?

Look on the link "fina conversion with a 3% loss factor

http://www.elitefitness.com/members/basskiller/links.html

 

[Taomaster]

Look on the link "fina conversion with a 3% loss factor

http://www.elitefitness.com/members/basskiller/links.html

So, on average, you are estimating that the trenbolone lost in the filters is about 3% of what you start with. I guess that sounds reasonable.

Where did you get your rule-of-thumb 3%?

 

[jack hust]

75 mg ed will be all you need