F*cking Dbol!!

[nutsnack]

Ok can someone link me some study or explain to me about this dbol only gives you water weight? I just started dbol 3 days ago and im already seeing strength gains and this whole water weight thing is BS.. experience input would be great but saying dbol is only water weight w/o evidence won't be too helpful

 

[black sheep]

Great for you - The point of this post was what?

 

[nutsnack]

Great for you - The point of this post was what?

I understand it is difficult for you to communicate at a normal level but if you read the fucking post the first sentence was a question.. that would be the point of this post.. Where ever the hell you are institutionalized they need to keep a closer eye on you and up your meds, how you managed to wiggle out of your straight jacket to type is beyond me, but keep your moronic posts to a minimum seeing that you have the IQ of a retarded canine! Thanks

 

[yatesolympia]

Ok can someone link me some study or explain to me about this dbol only gives you water weight? I just started dbol 3 days ago and im already seeing strength gains and this whole water weight thing is BS.. experience input would be great but saying dbol is only water weight w/o evidence won't be too helpful

Depends on the Dbols chemical makeup i posted on here before about this and it helped alot of people out. *metandienon* is Much easier on your body and causes less water weight gain then *metandrostenolone* Which is basically the Metandienon with a methyltestosterone added which causes your gains to be mostly water.

 

[Alpine]

Depends on the Dbols chemical makeup i posted on here before about this and it helped alot of people out. *metandienon* is Much easier on your body and causes less water weight gain then *metandrostenolone* Which is basically the Metandienon with a methyltestosterone added which causes your gains to be mostly water.

One of the most informative posts I've seen in a while! Thanks. Ya learn something new everyday!

 

[nutsnack]

Depends on the Dbols chemical makeup i posted on here before about this and it helped alot of people out. *metandienon* is Much easier on your body and causes less water weight gain then *metandrostenolone* Which is basically the Metandienon with a methyltestosterone added which causes your gains to be mostly water.

just out of curiousity how the hell do i figure out what the chemical makeup is? i didnt make the stuff :/

 

[Stryker1992]

just out of curiousity how the hell do i figure out what the chemical makeup is? i didnt make the stuff :/

As long as it is not the kind the fat bitch in your avatar is taking you should be okay.

I did a d-bol only cycle years ago and gained 20 lbs, keeping 16 of it!

 

[yatesolympia]

As long as it is not the kind the fat bitch in your avatar is taking you should be okay.

I did a d-bol only cycle years ago and gained 20 lbs, keeping 16 of it!

HAHAHA

 

[babbabuee]

Please please take that fat bitch out of your avatar. I will not read or respond to any of your posts until she's gone!

 

[r.gotti]

Please please take that fat bitch out of your avatar. I will not read or respond to any of your posts until she's gone!

I agree

 

[sigmund]

Depends on the Dbols chemical makeup i posted on here before about this and it helped alot of people out. *metandienon* is Much easier on your body and causes less water weight gain then *metandrostenolone* Which is basically the Metandienon with a methyltestosterone added which causes your gains to be mostly water.

Hey bro, I've been looking for more info on this (metandrostenolone being metandienon with methyltestosterone) since you mentioned it in a previous post.

Can you point me in the right direction? I've not heard of this before you posted about it. (Has it been discussed on another forum?)

 

[sparetire]

I understand it is difficult for you to communicate at a normal level but if you read the fucking post the first sentence was a question.. that would be the point of this post.. Where ever the hell you are institutionalized they need to keep a closer eye on you and up your meds, how you managed to wiggle out of your straight jacket to type is beyond me, but keep your moronic posts to a minimum seeing that you have the IQ of a retarded canine! Thanks

Well, isn't this ironic.. you're basically calling him a retard when you are taking steroids that you know absolutely nothing about. I took bianabol over a year ago to try it out. Before I took it, I researched everywhere on the side effects. How hard is it for you to open up GOOGLE and type "SIDE EFFECTS OF DBOL" .. look who's the retarded canine now. He was being sarcastic because this kind of information should be easily accessible and is widely known by probably most here on EF, noobs and the elite.

The more androgenic (that's more powerful in your case) the steroid is, the more bloat (not all but most) you'll get. You'll get an ASSLOAD of water from dbol and some serious strength within only a few days. Of course if you knew your pct info, you'd know which ones to take to help combat (get rid of the water) the bloat. So go search that out and stop acting like a total asshole..

 

[luciano]

water retention apears in about 10 days after u start taking pills and it leaves the same , dosage counts too

 

[almost-pro]

take dbol with femara/liquidex and nolva like myself and don't worry about the water.

 

[needsize]

while there is obviously some water weight gain with dbol, by no stretch of the imagination should it be mostly water weight. I keep minimum 2/3 of the weight I gain from dbol. My guess is that those that gain mostly only water, have no clue about training or nutrition, so they only gain water as they dont know enough to grow muscle

 

[GreekGod]

Depends on the Dbols chemical makeup i posted on here before about this and it helped alot of people out. *metandienon* is Much easier on your body and causes less water weight gain then *metandrostenolone* Which is basically the Metandienon with a methyltestosterone added which causes your gains to be mostly water.

as far as I know the words "methandrostenolone" and "methandienone" are absolute synonyms. both refer to the exact same substance, which in bodybuilding slang is called "dbol".

now you might be referring to the fact that some dbol products (have been said to) actually contain methyltestosterone instead of real methandrostenolone or a blend of both (like the russian bioreactor tabs). this is done for the sake of cutting down costs since methyltestosterone is much cheaper than dbol, but it has nothing to do with chemical structure or whatever... dbol is dbol and methyltest is methyltest...

 

[black sheep]

I understand it is difficult for you to communicate at a normal level but if you read the fucking post the first sentence was a question.. that would be the point of this post.. Where ever the hell you are institutionalized they need to keep a closer eye on you and up your meds, how you managed to wiggle out of your straight jacket to type is beyond me, but keep your moronic posts to a minimum seeing that you have the IQ of a retarded canine! Thanks

I almost forgot how much of an Intellectual giant you were.

The other day you made a post saying that you were too busy to eat right, and asked if anyone could help you out.

Now you want someone to prove to you that D-Bol "ONLY" causes water weight, because after 3 days you got strength gains.

Will the next post be "Can someone show me a study or some proof that a test/deca/d-bol cycle can never give you 30lbs of mass. I did one for my first cycle and gained 30 lbs. It is BS to say you definatly won't gain 30 lbs. I want to see proof that every test/deca/d-bol cycle does not yeild 30lbs of LBM"

You have absolutly no AAS knowledge. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Now go back to your wife, and take her picture out of your avatar before I vomit again.

 

[fbodyguy02]

Please please take that fat bitch out of your avatar. I will not read or respond to any of your posts until she's gone!

LMAO... just don't look at it!

 

[Hahnb]

Personally I'm not a big fan of d-bol. I would rather front load with prop anyday.

 

[nutsnack]

Well, isn't this ironic.. you're basically calling him a retard when you are taking steroids that you know absolutely nothing about. I took bianabol over a year ago to try it out. Before I took it, I researched everywhere on the side effects. How hard is it for you to open up GOOGLE and type "SIDE EFFECTS OF DBOL" .. look who's the retarded canine now. He was being sarcastic because this kind of information should be easily accessible and is widely known by probably most here on EF, noobs and the elite.

The more androgenic (that's more powerful in your case) the steroid is, the more bloat (not all but most) you'll get. You'll get an ASSLOAD of water from dbol and some serious strength within only a few days. Of course if you knew your pct info, you'd know which ones to take to help combat (get rid of the water) the bloat. So go search that out and stop acting like a total asshole..

first off im a member to this board to ask questions 2nd off i know about dbol and i take adex for the water retention.. if you would actually read the post instead of getting defensive you would understand that.. as for how hard it is to open the google search and type in "side effects of dbol" its not that hard but i'm sure you know seeing that you are the inventer of the internet seeing that you are all knowing.. the point of this post was to get people that have used dbol to post their exp w/ water retention on it not to pull the ignorant from the woodwork!

 

[nutsnack]

I almost forgot how much of an Intellectual giant you were.

The other day you made a post saying that you were too busy to eat right, and asked if anyone could help you out.

Now you want someone to prove to you that D-Bol "ONLY" causes water weight, because after 3 days you got strength gains.

Will the next post be "Can someone show me a study or some proof that a test/deca/d-bol cycle can never give you 30lbs of mass. I did one for my first cycle and gained 30 lbs. It is BS to say you definatly won't gain 30 lbs. I want to see proof that every test/deca/d-bol cycle does not yeild 30lbs of LBM"

i'm not on a dbol only cycle and never said i was read the damn post.. i am on a test prop/ deca/ dbol cycle (which was never stated in this post either).. and you can't prove something doesn't happen you can only prove something that does happen.. again you are straying away from the topic and id like knowledgable answers so if ure going to post dumbshit just send it in a pm and stop spamming my post b/c im seeking info not dumbass comments.. if i wanted this shit out of ure mouth id step on your head! If you are reading at a 3rd grade level and can't comprehend what i'm saying just dont read my posts, thanks!

 

[digimon7068]

Hmmm, pissy attitudes and agressive behavior. . .guess it's safe to assume that our summer cycles are kicking in, eh??

 

[stuck]

i'm not on a dbol only cycle and never said i was read the damn post.. i am on a test prop/ deca/ dbol cycle (which was never stated in this post either).. and you can't prove something doesn't happen you can only prove something that does happen.. again you are straying away from the topic and id like knowledgable answers so if ure going to post dumbshit just send it in a pm and stop spamming my post b/c im seeking info not dumbass comments.. if i wanted this shit out of ure mouth id step on your head! If you are reading at a 3rd grade level and can't comprehend what i'm saying just dont read my posts, thanks!

You never stated you were on anything else besides dbol and you didn't give dosages. All you said was you had been on it for 3 days. If you want some constructive feedback you need to be more specific.

 

[tahoe2003]

I agree

me to

 

[nutsnack]

You never stated you were on anything else besides dbol and you didn't give dosages. All you said was you had been on it for 3 days. If you want some constructive feedback you need to be more specific.

thats b/c my question was not directed towards me in any way shape or form. i was simply stating my first experience with it.. my question was

can someone link me some study or explain to me about this dbol only gives you water weight?

B/c 75% of the threads on here i read about dbol is people saying dbol gives you fake gains and its all water and u'll lose it all a week or so after you get off.. i'd just like to know where this myth / theory came from. i understand dbol causes water retention which is partially why you get such quick strength gains but its stupid to say its all "fake" IMO but this is my first time running it and that is why i posted this and if you're going to say something stupid about my avatar or just something stupid in general, well... don't

 

[BIC]

Hey Nutsack You Cunt..............fucking Shut The Hell Up You 15yr Old...
Dammmm It Never Fails How Tuff Someone Is On The Net.....your Probley 150bld Pussy......

Get The Fuck Off Our Board.....i Would Never Help A Dick Like You...your The Guy I Sell Asprin To And Tell Him Its Anadrol..im Thinking About Going Platnuim Just To Bomb Your Ass Till No Tomorrow....you Talk Way Too Much Shit Dude..

Get The Fuck On...................

Bic

 

[azul]

Hey Nutsack You Cunt..............fucking Shut The Hell Up You 15yr Old...
Dammmm It Never Fails How Tuff Someone Is On The Net.....your Probley 150bld Pussy......

Get The Fuck Off Our Board.....i Would Never Help A Dick Like You...your The Guy I Sell Asprin To And Tell Him Its Anadrol..im Thinking About Going Platnuim Just To Bomb Your Ass Till No Tomorrow....you Talk Way Too Much Shit Dude..

Get The Fuck On...................

Bic

Bro, he didn't even start the argument. There are no stupid questions. Now chill down and stop being an asshole. He didn't do jack all to you, and you start insulting him? Where are your manners?

 

[azul]

thats b/c my question was not directed towards me in any way shape or form. i was simply stating my first experience with it.. my question was



B/c 75% of the threads on here i read about dbol is people saying dbol gives you fake gains and its all water and u'll lose it all a week or so after you get off.. i'd just like to know where this myth / theory came from. i understand dbol causes water retention which is partially why you get such quick strength gains but its stupid to say its all "fake" IMO but this is my first time running it and that is why i posted this and if you're going to say something stupid about my avatar or just something stupid in general, well... don't

There's some good posts in the "Best of Elitefitness" forums that will answer your question.

 

[nutsnack]

Hey Nutsack You Cunt..............fucking Shut The Hell Up You 15yr Old...
Dammmm It Never Fails How Tuff Someone Is On The Net.....your Probley 150bld Pussy......

Get The Fuck Off Our Board.....i Would Never Help A Dick Like You...your The Guy I Sell Asprin To And Tell Him Its Anadrol..im Thinking About Going Platnuim Just To Bomb Your Ass Till No Tomorrow....you Talk Way Too Much Shit Dude..

Get The Fuck On...................

Bic

tell me how you really feel! as for bombing i don't think you can bomb the same person over and over i think you have to wait 40 days but if you feel that is necessary I am willing to take your consequences

 

[BIC]

Just Dont Be A Dick Dude....i Mean We Are Here To Help You!! The Retard......i Mean When I Ask A Question Witch I Rarley Do...i Sure As Hell Dont Tell The People Who Are Trying To Help Me That Their Retards.........

Just Play Nice.....

Bic

 

[azul]

Just Dont Be A Dick Dude....i Mean We Are Here To Help You!! The Retard......i Mean When I Ask A Question Witch I Rarley Do...i Sure As Hell Dont Tell The People Who Are Trying To Help Me That Their Retards.........

Just Play Nice.....

Bic

See? We can all resolve our conflicts if we just play nice and argue in a constructive manner

 

[sparetire]

first off im a member to this board to ask questions 2nd off i know about dbol and i take adex for the water retention.. if you would actually read the post instead of getting defensive you would understand that.. as for how hard it is to open the google search and type in "side effects of dbol" its not that hard but i'm sure you know seeing that you are the inventer of the internet seeing that you are all knowing.. the point of this post was to get people that have used dbol to post their exp w/ water retention on it not to pull the ignorant from the woodwork!

so then why couldn't you just ask the question about dbol and people's experience? The reason why I got so angry wasn't the simple fact of your ignorant question, it was the fact that you jumped all over someone who basically admonished you for asking a rhetorical question. There are so many jack-off's on this board now that can't do the simple research to find the answer. I'm not going to post a thread asking, "Does anyone know if EQ causes gyno? " and then admit later in the post, just as you have, that you knew all along that it didn't. Or in your case, you take adex with dbol and you complain that it gives you mad strength and bloat. WTF. that is just height of retardation in my book. But, I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the same problems with retarded questions..now let's kill this thread ..it's lame like the question.

 

[willber]

It amazes me that one question can spiral into an all out assault on human kind. This post seemed to commence with a fairly simple, if rather unclear question. Guys, you do not need to read posts that you think are 'Dumb' just ignore them. If you want to reply to posts then reply to a thread to which you can offer something constructive. This is all very uncalled for and i think we all need to assess the situation a little objectivley - this is a discussion forum, not an East meets West gangster show down. Lets all chill.

 

[ryan04]

Hahahahahahaha. It takes longer than 3 days to get bloated from d-bol. In a week you'll be feeling like you just ate Thanksgiving dinner 24/7. Just keep eating and wait, my soon-to-be-fat-bloated-pig of a friend. This is a good thread!

 

[krisco]

Someone needs to remove this post from the forum this is getting way the F$#@$ out of control. F^%$&^% stupid F*%$*^ shit pisses me off. Ok, I feel better now!

 

[CENTURION44]

Dianabol (1 7-alpha-methyl-1 7beta-hydroxil-androsta-1.4dien-3-on) is an orally applicable steroid with a great effect on the protein metabolism. The effect of Dianabol promotes the protein synthesis, thus it supports the buildup of protein. This effect mani-fests itself in a positive nitrogen balance and an improved well-be-ing. Dianabol has a very strong anabolic and androgenic effect which manifests itself in an enormous buildup of strength and muscle mass in its users. Dianabol is simply a "mass steroid" which works quickly and reliably. A weight gain of 2 - 4 pounds per week in the first six weeks is normal with Dianabol. The additional body weight consists of a true increase in tissue (hyper-trophy of muscle fibers) and, in particular, in a noticeable retention of fluids. Dianabol aromatizes easily so that it is not a very good drug when one works out for a competition. Excessive water reten-tion and aromatizing can be avoided in most cases by simultaneously taking Nolvadex and Proviron so that some athletes are able to use Dianabol until three to four days before a competition. An effective daily dose for athletes is around 15-40 mg/day. The dosage of Dianabol taken by the athlete should always be coordinated with his individual goals. Steroid nov-ices do not need more than 15-20 mg of Dianabol per day since this dose is sufficient to achieve exceptional results over a period of 8-10 weeks. When the effect begins to slow down in this group after about eight weeks and the athlete wants to continue his treatment, the dosage of Dianabol should not be increased but an injectable steroid such as Deca-Durabolin in a dosage of 200 mg/week or Primobolan in a dosage of 200 mg/week should be used in addition to the Dianabol dose; or he may switch to one of the two above-mentioned compounds. The use of testosterone is not recommended at this stage as the athlete should leave some free play for later. For those either impatient or more advanced, a stack of Dianabol 20-30 mg/day and Deca-Durabolin 200-400 mg/day achieves miracles. Those who are more interested in strength and less in body mass can combine Dianabol with either Oxandrolone or Winstrol tablets. The additional intake of an injectable steroid does, however, clearly show the best results. To build up mass and strength, Sustanon or Testosterone enanthate at 250-mg+/week and/ or Deca-Durabolin 200 at mg +/week are suitable. To prepare, for a competition, Dianabol has only limited use since it causes distinct water retention in many athletes and due to its high conversion rate into estrogen it complicates the athlete's fat breakdown. Those of you without this problem or who are able to control it by taking Nolvadex or Proviron, in this phase should use Dianabol together with the proven Parabolan, Winstrol Depot, Masteron, Oxandrolone, etc.

Since Dianabol's half-life time is only 3.2 - 4.5 hours (1) application at least twice a day is necessary to achieve a somewhat even concen-tration of the substance in the blood. It is recommended that the tablets be taken during meals so that pos-sible gastrointestinal pains can be avoided. Dianabol reaches the blood after 1-3 hours. A simple application of only 10 mg results in a 5-fold increase in the average testosterone concentration in the male.Women should not use Dianabol because, due to its distinct andro-genic component, considerable virilization symptoms can occur. Although Dianabol has many potential side effects, they are rare with a dosage of up to 20 mg/day. Since Dianabol is I 7-alpha alky-lated it causes a considerable strain on the liver. In high dosages and over a longer period of time, Dianabol is liver-toxic. Even a dosage of only 10 mg/day can increase the liver values; after discontinuance of the drug, however, the values return to normal. Since Dianabol quickly increases the body weight due to high water re-tention, a high blood pressure and a faster heartbeat can occur, some-times requiring the intake of an antihypertensive drug such as Catapresan. Additive intake of Nolvadex and Proviron might be necessary as well, since Dianabol strongly converts into estro-gens and in some athletes causes gynecomastia ("bitch tits") or worsens an already existing condition. Because of the strongly androgenic component and the conversion into dihydrotestosterone, Dianabol, in some athletes, can trigger a seri-ous acne vulgaris on the face, neck, chest, back, and shoulders since the sebaceous gland function is stimulated. If a hereditary predispo-sition exists Dianabol can also accelerate a possible hair loss which again can be explained by the high conversion of the substance into dihydrotestosterone. Another disadvantage is that, after discontinuance of the compound, a considerable loss of strength and mass often occurs since the water stored during the intake is again excreted by the body. In high dosages of 5 0 mg +/day aggres-sive behavior in the user can occasionally be observed which, if it only refers to his workout, can be an advantage. In order toavoid uncontrolled actions, those who have a tendency to easily lose, their temper should be aware of this characteristic when taking a high D-bol dosage. Despite all of these possible symptoms Dianabol instills in most athletes a "sense of well-being anabolic" which improves the mood and appetite and in many users, together with the ob-tained results, leads to an improved level of consciousness and a higher self-confidence.

 

[dr0832]

Strength gains from most aas's come from the water weight that you gain. Dbol especially. You said you started dbol 3 days ago. In 3 days you have little if any muscle. People who say you gain no muscle from dbol are idiots, thats not true, however if you do not use adex or something else about 10lbs or more of your gains are water and you will just piss it out after you finish the cycle and you will lose the strength gain. Anavar is an exception because its a substance that increases phosophocreatine which causes tremendous strength gains with out added water weight. The other thing people have mistaken for loss of gains is the fact that dbol shuts you down hard and without propper pct you lose most of the msucle that you gain as well as you will lose the water weight no matter what.

 

[tedman18]

Hmmm, pissy attitudes and agressive behavior. . .guess it's safe to assume that our summer cycles are kicking in, eh??

LMAO... thats funny... i guess so

 

[Bozwell]

so if I get 12 lbs of 1 ml of sust ew for 8weeks and I make another 12lbs on 5 weeks of 20mg of dbol i see no reason why I could not put on a lean30 lbs in say 10 weeks with 30mg dbol 500mg of sust an 300mg of deca

 

[WannaBeBig72]

I have just finished a dbol only cycle 20 mg ed for 5 week (100pills) and have kept 12lbs and all of my streanth ,I cant do quite as many reps but I can still lift the weights that I could not before the cycle
all in all I gained 12lbs and some mad streanth for less than a night out, would I do one again? ,too right I would -no recovery probs just 3 weeks nolva pct and I good to go again (in a few weeks)
as for water I got just as bloated of 1ml of sust a week as i did with the dbol but in terms of steanth gains the 5week dbol cycle beats the 8 week sust cycle same weight gained but the dbol gave me more streanth now pct is done i am holding no water and look quite good if i dont say so myself.

You were just on a dbol cycle? Did you take any enti-e while you were on it? How much water weight did you gain? I'm in week 3 of a dbol/test/eq cycle (I've got 12 more days of dbol to go 25mgs a day). I'm up about 10-12 pounds and am taking adex .5mg eod. Hoping there's not too much water there.

 

[Bozwell]

You were just on a dbol cycle? Did you take any enti-e while you were on it? How much water weight did you gain? I'm in week 3 of a dbol/test/eq cycle (I've got 12 more days of dbol to go 25mgs a day). I'm up about 10-12 pounds and am taking adex .5mg eod. Hoping there's not too much water there.

yep dbol only I gained 16 lbs and have only lost 4lbs after pct you notice the water leave ,well I did lots pissing during the night, no anti e while on and just nolva 20mg ed for 3 weeks pct
btw my diet isnt very good so with good eating I sure youll make more
good luck

 

[karachi183]

A friend of mine always says it's not how much u weigh but how you look! Just figured i'd throw that in..

 

[pudding]

I took prov & nolv through out my dbol cycle. It kept bloat down some, but still had very bad pumps. I kept about 2/3rds of gains which is ok. Had some other sides that really suck, back acne, lethargy, anxiety. Two weeks later still not 100%, but improving daily. The price we pay for pursuit of the body we want. As for the original question, I would just do a lot of reading, net, boards, & books. It's not exciting reading, but it can answer a lot of your questions. I agree it is great to get answers from experienced guys. I ask questions after I read to reinforce the information. Also, some things you can't get from a book.

 

[bicepts101]

The more androgenic (that's more powerful in your case) the steroid is, the more bloat (not all but most) you'll get. You'll get an ASSLOAD of water from dbol and some serious strength within only a few days. ..

lol...you're on the right track bro but your not right on this one.....in some cases a steroid being highly androgenic there will be bloat. for instance, halo, tren, masteron, proviron, are all VERY androgenic compounds and NONE of them cause water retention.


the andro part of steroids is basically the side effects bro, ie. body hair growth, aggression, hairloss, acne etc.

 

[bicepts101]

Ok can someone link me some study or explain to me about this dbol only gives you water weight? I just started dbol 3 days ago and im already seeing strength gains and this whole water weight thing is BS.. experience input would be great but saying dbol is only water weight w/o evidence won't be too helpful

ok bro...first off, NOBODY with any CREDIBILITY has EVER said dbol gives u only water gains bro. you obviously have no idea of what u are talking about.

you have basically just mentioned what everyone experiances with dbol ie quick WATER weight gain and quick strenght gain. the water alone will help u push weight bro. steroids excellerate protein synthesis and nitrogen retention, its a slow process no matter what. so at the end of a 4 week cycle of dbol the sodium retention will be there and you'll lose it and be left with however much muscle you gained. the hard part is keeping it.

 

[bicepts101]

this thread is the perfect example of why the newer guy should sit around and read instead of posting info they really arent sure of

 

[Madcow2]

ok bro...first off, NOBODY with any CREDIBILITY has EVER said dbol gives u only water gains bro.

That's the problem. These boards are rampant with people who should not be answering questions of any kind simply repeating some voodoo bullshit they have no clue about.

I've seen this dbol = 100% water posted so many times on this board over the years that it's rediculous.

Anyway - in addition to water increasing volumes and leverages steroids affect the CNS to varying degrees so one will also notice increased work capacity, recovery, strength, etc... (this varies from compound to compound). Dbol alone was an ultra common cycle for years. Many many people have made and kept very solid gains from this drug even when used alone and even without any of the conventional PCT therapies (not that I recommend this, just pointing it out). This has been going on since the very early 1960s.

 

[needsize]

That's the problem. These boards are rampant with people who should not be answering questions of any kind simply repeating some voodoo bullshit they have no clue about.

I've seen this dbol = 100% water posted so many times on this board over the years that it's rediculous.

Anyway - in addition to water increasing volumes and leverages steroids affect the CNS to varying degrees so one will also notice increased work capacity, recovery, strength, etc... (this varies from compound to compound). Dbol alone was an ultra common cycle for years. Many many people have made and kept very solid gains from this drug even when used alone and even without any of the conventional PCT therapies (not that I recommend this, just pointing it out). This has been going on since the very early 1960s.

thank you, seeing the same posts about dbol by people that have no idea what they are talking about, drive me nuts. The 100% water gain thing I have seen time and time again...
The more anabolic a substance, the more effective it is at causing growth(muscle gain not water), and every chart I have ever seen listing properties of different steroids, rates dbol a 8 or 9 out of 10 for being anabolic.
But usually someone heres a big guy at the gym say something once, so they take that to be gospel as that big guy MUST know what hes talking about

 

[bicepts101]

thank you, seeing the same posts about dbol by people that have no idea what they are talking about, drive me nuts. The 100% water gain thing I have seen time and time again...
The more anabolic a substance, the more effective it is at causing growth(muscle gain not water), and every chart I have ever seen listing properties of different steroids, rates dbol a 8 or 9 out of 10 for being anabolic.
But usually someone heres a big guy at the gym say something once, so they take that to be gospel as that big guy MUST know what hes talking about

exactly bro...its the same thing with the whole deca/eq thing...they hear it and repeat

 

[needsize]

exactly bro...its the same thing with the whole deca/eq thing...they hear it and repeat

no shit, I forgot about that one, I;ve run those two together on every cycle for almost 2 years now, I really wish I knes what I was doing.....

 

[bicepts101]

no shit, I forgot about that one, I;ve run those two together on every cycle for almost 2 years now, I really wish I knes what I was doing.....

its funny cause on both of those thread(deca/eq and this one) once you and i corrected the posters no one said a word. lol

 

[yatesolympia]

as far as I know the words "methandrostenolone" and "methandienone" are absolute synonyms. both refer to the exact same substance, which in bodybuilding slang is called "dbol".

now you might be referring to the fact that some dbol products (have been said to) actually contain methyltestosterone instead of real methandrostenolone or a blend of both (like the russian bioreactor tabs). this is done for the sake of cutting down costs since methyltestosterone is much cheaper than dbol, but it has nothing to do with chemical structure or whatever... dbol is dbol and methyltest is methyltest...

Your wrong Some Dbol's are completely Metandienone which is a much higher Quality. Metandienone+methyltestosterone = the Chemical methandrostenolene, please do some research before you squash a good post.
Example :RUSSIAN D-BOL (metandrostenolone) /Akrihin Russia/ 5mg
**** Metandienone+methyltestosterone= methandrostenolene...This is basically Bionabol with Methyltestosterone but the gains are more from water retention and Bionabol are easier on the body

Example :BIONABOL D-BOL (metandienon) /AD pharma Bulgaria/ 5mg
***** Its easy on the body and gives solid gains .

 

[GreekGod]

Your wrong Some Dbol's are completely Metandienone which is a much higher Quality. Metandienone+methyltestosterone = the Chemical methandrostenolene, please do some research before you squash a good post.
Example :RUSSIAN D-BOL (metandrostenolone) /Akrihin Russia/ 5mg
**** Metandienone+methyltestosterone= methandrostenolene...This is basically Bionabol with Methyltestosterone but the gains are more from water retention and Bionabol are easier on the body

Example :BIONABOL D-BOL (metandienon) /AD pharma Bulgaria/ 5mg
***** Its easy on the body and gives solid gains .

bro, I 've done my research and I still think you're wrong. Don't take this personally. I'm not here to fight with anyone.

Methandienone = Methandrostenolone = 1-Dehydro-17a-methyltestosterone = 17beta-Hydroxy-17-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one = 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one = good ol' dbol

Different names for the exact same thing.
It's actually very easy to check the validity of what I say. Just look it up in an organic chemistry encyclopaedia or simply go to an online chemical database (like http://chemfinder.cambridgesoft.com/ ) and do a search for the substance with CAS 72-63-9 (which is the ID number of dbol). You'll see a picture of the molecule and all the different names that are used to refer to it.

If you still insist on your view that methandienone and methandrostenolone are different things then please provide some study or other proof to support it. The fact that different dbol products (or products that CLAIM to contain dbol) have been observed to have different effects doesn't prove anything. This happens basically because some companies underdose their products or substitute dbol for other things (like methyltest for example).

 

[wesley90]

LOL I cant wait till CNN puts this on their website and features it as to what roids do to people.