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Exteme Lethargy from prop/tren--is this normal?

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Extreme Lethargy from prop/tren--is this normal?

doing 100prop75tren ace EOD with 50 mg Var--i am so lethargic i cant keep awake--and appetite is way down

also 2 weeks into Keto diet--which im aware may be attributing but i was told once in full ketosis my energy levels would get supplemented by the essentials fats im taking in as opposed to the carbs and my energy would be great---not so far--im beat up
 
tren will make you tired, but more importantl that Ketogenic diet will make you feel like dog sh**

your on cycle eat some carbs dont go overboard just strategicaly eat the good carbs
 
Tren indeed as Dr D said

honestly feel that Tren is best at lower doses under 50 mgs a day, even just 33 mgs
 
drdug27 said:
tren will make you tired, but more importantl that Ketogenic diet will make you feel like dog sh**

your on cycle eat some carbs dont go overboard just strategicaly eat the good carbs
Ketogenic diet well kick your ass some times.
 
its everything your doing but your on track for getting in shape..just roll with it...get some tyrosine or add a low dose of t3/caffiene to make you more energetic....var and tren makes the appettite nonexisitent...i luv it when dieting
 
Vascular Freak said:
its everything your doing but your on track for getting in shape..just roll with it...get some tyrosine or add a low dose of t3/caffiene to make you more energetic....var and tren makes the appettite nonexisitent...i luv it when dieting


caffeine i can see as its a stimulant but T3 why? to stimulate thryoid???? tyrosine i do have and will start taking

could the EOD with the prop/tren be the problem--if i go ED do u think my energy levels would level out--the prop freakin kills so an every day poke is a scary thougt
 
Re: Extreme Lethargy from prop/tren--is this normal?

shape said:
doing 100prop75tren ace EOD with 50 mg Var--i am so lethargic i cant keep awake--and appetite is way down

also 2 weeks into Keto diet--which im aware may be attributing but i was told once in full ketosis my energy levels would get supplemented by the essentials fats im taking in as opposed to the carbs and my energy would be great---not so far--im beat up

On the keto diet it may take you a couple weeks longer. Some bodies are heavily dependant on carbs for energy and take longer to shift. You don't neccesarily have to get into ketosis for the diet to work. You can try bumping your carbs up very slightly to like 40g or 50g per day....rotating 20g's one day and 40g's the next Once you switch to fat as the preferred energy source, you will have energy. Have you had your refeed yet? I'm assuming you are doing CKD? Make sure you fat is high. Some people make the mistake of high protein, low-moderate fat, and very low carbs. Bad, bad idea. At least 1.5-1.7g of fat per pound of bodyweight. You may want to add in pralines as one of your fat sources, they are loaded with antioxidants.
 
shape said:
caffeine i can see as its a stimulant but T3 why? to stimulate thryoid???? tyrosine i do have and will start taking

could the EOD with the prop/tren be the problem--if i go ED do u think my energy levels would level out--the prop freakin kills so an every day poke is a scary thougt

personaly ed tren poke are suspose decrease the sides a bit(nihgt sweats/aggresion) but i have found EOD doesnt effect me that much.

obviously this looks like one qualith cutting cycle, what are your stats and goals.

i just think you need some carbs and possible stims(lipoflame, ECA etc)
 
shape said:
im 5'7 211 DOWN FROM 228 BF AROUND 11--LOOKING TO GO TO 5-6% 37 YRS OLD
that cycle is gonna rip you up! i still would throw some carbs in.

im 6'4" 255 ~14%...looking to get down around 10ish. i am taking in around 50-75g carbs/day. im extremely carb sensative and im still shedding weight with my Tren.
 
Try doing ed shots of tren ace...keep the blood levels more stable with the tren. I also agree with Omega (as I have said before) tren at 300-400mg ew is plenty.
 
boston789 said:
Try doing ed shots of tren ace...keep the blood levels more stable with the tren. I also agree with Omega (as I have said before) .


thanks low level of Tren on a Test base already is PLENTY
 
Re: Extreme Lethargy from prop/tren--is this normal?

doing 100prop75tren ace EOD with 50 mg Var--i am so lethargic i cant keep awake--and appetite is way down

also 2 weeks into Keto diet--which im aware may be attributing but i was told once in full ketosis my energy levels would get supplemented by the essentials fats im taking in as opposed to the carbs and my energy would be great---not so far--im beat up

I feel you.. 100mg Winstrol, 75 Tren, 25 Test Prop, and low carb diet... falling sleep evey second of it... everywhere gone, a nap was needed. Personally... It has to be the TREN
 
Bros, Taking small amounts of TREN... lets day 33mg EOD.. will that help in the sense of the lethargy?

I also noted that while on TREN, appetite is WAY DOWN... a nice thing!

But the lethargy part, really... I could sleep the whole duration of the TREN Cycle.
 
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