Expired Gear/ Cycle Advice Needed w/ PICS!! Please Help Save My Life!!!

[ProMed]

Basic Background:
1 - Age - 30
2 - Lifting History - Steady lifting from 18-27yo, spotty to non-existent lifting for the last 3 years
3 - Height - 6'1"
4 - Weight - 250
5 - Estimated BF% - 32%
6 - Diet - Getting better every week
7 - Goals - 200lbs, 15%, more energy

Hello guys/gals I was a member on here back around 2002 and gained a lot of knowledge. Well I have now forgotten most of that and need your help. As a matter of fact I couldn't even remember my old username or password when I tried to log back in a few years later so I had to open up a new account back in 05.

Long story short-- I have done 5-6 cycles several years ago with fairly good results on all of them. Started at 6'1" 175 w/25% bf and ended up at 225 w/10% bf. Around 6 months after my last cycle I became depressed/ lethargic and became a steamy pile of shit. Last year I was up to 300lbs and what felt like 99% bodyfat... I have been working out for the last year and am now down to 250 and 32% bf which obviously is still life threatening.

It is way past time to step up and reclaim what is left of my life. I have recently hired a personal trainer and dietician, and also had a full blood work-up done just a few days ago so I can better monitor all of my levels post-cycle.

I have a lot of old gear from those past cycles, most of which are expired, and also I have been stock piling enanthate injections I had script written for and never have taken. Your advice would be GREATLY appreciated on the safety of this expired gear and also on any cycle that I am be able to pull from all this old gear. That old Fina I made is probably toast, but it would be great if I could still use some of my old gear. All of my cycles in the past where done for mass building so I am little out of my element looking for lean gains/fat burning. I do know that my diet is going to being even more critical.

My biggest problem right now may be my almost total lack of Anti-E's. I have moved since becoming a fat ass and have lost contact with all of my old hook ups. So hopefully I can start becoming better friends with some local guys to help me out there. Eventually I would also like to get started on a nice HGH regime.
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My Old Gear Breakdown:

15- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.11/2005) Watson Labs
1- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.06/2008) Watson Labs

1- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2006) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.04/2006) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2008) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.11/2008) Delatestryl

3- Enanthate 1cc 250mg/ml (exp.01/2006) Testoviron Depot

1- Enanthate 10cc 250mg/ml (exp. None) Quality Vet

1- Enanthate 10cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2005) Ttokkyo

1- Cypionate 10cc 100mg/ml (exp.01/2006) Pharmacia

1- Propionate 10cc 100mg/ml (exp.10/2005) Quality Vet

1- Stanozol 20cc 100mg/ml (exp.06/2003) Ttokkyo

13- Primobolan 1cc 100mg/ml (exp.03/2004) Schering

12- Primobolan 1cc 100mg/ml (exp.02/2005) Schering

10- Testosterone depot (??) 1cc 250mg/ml (exp. None) Galenika

1- Liquid D-Bol 10cc 25mg/ml (exp.12/2003) Denkall

1- Finaplex 50cc 200mg/ml?? (exp.??) Home-made

22- Spiropent 20mcg (exp.09/2003) Boehringer
10- Clomifene 50mg (exp.08/2005) Fertomid-50
22- Arimidex (??) White, six sided, “50” marked
15- D-bol (??) Pink, five-sided, “T” marked
8- Winny (??) Yellow, five-sided, un-marked
3- Winny (??) White, round, smooth, “A” marked

 

[Selene]

when AAS is manufactured it is good for 5 years, and expiration date of 2-3 years is normally used for legal reason in order to export or for sale in countries where legal.

so if your date manufacutred is within 5 years it is still good

good luck to you

 

[ProMed]

Thanks Selene, I appreciate the advice! I should also add that the gear has been kept in a cool, climate-controlled environment out of direct sunlight. Hopefully that will help keep it within your guidelines.

Attached are two very embarassing pics of myself. These are still 50 pounds less than around a year ago, but still terribly sad. Hopefully that isn't gyno and is just tit fat. My left breast has a small amount of soreness, but no real lumps on either sad. If it is gyno hopefully some letro from AG guy will help out.

 

[airsmith2k]

damn man u have ALOT of expired gear lol.......before u start gear u should seriously get into shape first....start doin alot of cardio and eat real clean.....then when u get leaner and back into shape then hit the gear........your really not that fat and im sure if u put ur mind to it u can lose all that excess weight

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

is that gyno or chest fat? not being an ASS just wondering. sorry if it offends ya.

 

[zk7]

prolly fat man. everyone whos overweight has bitch tits.

 

[tyerone323]

when AAS is manufactured it is good for 5 years, and expiration date of 2-3 years is normally used for legal reason in order to export or for sale in countries where legal.

so if your date manufacutred is within 5 years it is still good

good luck to you

SORRY IF IM BUTTIN INTO YOUR POST BUT IM IN SOMEWAT THE SAME BOAT WITH THE EXPR DATES ON GEAR, BUT HEY SELENE WAT IF ITS PAST 5 YEARS MANUFACTURED DATE?THINK THE GEAR WOULD BE REAL BAD FOR YOU HEALTH WISE OR JUST TOTALY LOST ITS POTENCY?THANKS PEOPLE

 

[zk7]

5 years, 10 years, all that means is reduced potency. it does not mean "it becomes rat poison like left over fish on the counter"

 

[Powerbuilder333]

IMO. With very few exceptions pharmacuticals don't go bad. They just gradually loose their potency. If it's been kept in a sterile enviroment I'd use it.
I'd have to agree with the prior post regarding losing some of your bodyfat before you return to AAS useage.

 

[tyerone323]

5 years, 10 years, all that means is reduced potency. it does not mean "it becomes rat poison like left over fish on the counter"

gotcha zk

 

[ProMed]

I'd have to agree with the prior post regarding losing some of your bodyfat before you return to AAS usage.

Thanks for the tip, I was given the same advice over a year ago and have since lost over 50lbs, but apparently I am still trying to jump the gun with it. With most of my old gear already past expiration I was hoping to use some of it to help with cutting fat but maybe that would just be a waste?

I came across this cutting cycle by Makavelli that looked very interesting, but would probably have a hard time getting everything needed to do it right.

1-12 Test E 500mg wk
1-12 EQ 400mg wk
7-12 Tren 300mg wk
7-12 Proviron 50mg ED
7-12 Winny 50mg ED

Thanks for the replies everyone!

 

[st8grad]

Thanks for the tip, I was given the same advice over a year ago and have since lost over 50lbs, but apparently I am still trying to jump the gun with it. With most of my old gear already past expiration I was hoping to use some of it to help with cutting fat but maybe that would just be a waste?

I came across this cutting cycle by Makavelli that looked very interesting, but would probably have a hard time getting everything needed to do it right.

1-12 Test E 500mg wk
1-12 EQ 400mg wk
7-12 Tren 300mg wk
7-12 Proviron 50mg ED
7-12 Winny 50mg ED

Thanks for the replies everyone!

Too much dude. Run that cycle down the road. Don't get crazy dropping a lot of money on the tren and winny for this one. You estimate 32% bf so I would think that just your test and eq cycle and try and drop as much fat as you can. Cardio and maybe add in t3 and running the letro like you said. Get to 15%bf and then go for your tren/winny cycle. No use using winny to harden up if you can't see it. This cycle really is all about keeping muscle mass. The test and eq should do that just fine. Don't eat so "clean" that you drop out good fat though bro. A balanced diet with lower calories will get you going.

 

[ProMed]

Too much dude. Run that cycle down the road. Don't get crazy dropping a lot of money on the tren and winny for this one. You estimate 32% bf so I would think that just your test and eq cycle and try and drop as much fat as you can. Cardio and maybe add in t3 and running the letro like you said. Get to 15%bf and then go for your tren/winny cycle. No use using winny to harden up if you can't see it. This cycle really is all about keeping muscle mass. The test and eq should do that just fine. Don't eat so "clean" that you drop out good fat though bro. A balanced diet with lower calories will get you going.

Thank you for the advice st8grad, I really appreciate it!

 

[NYBodyguard]

where the heck did u get the cyp dammit thats great american stuff man

 

[Mac173]

where the heck did u get the cyp dammit thats great american stuff man

Don't forget about the Watson also.

 

[needtogetaas]

Basic Background:
1 - Age - 30
2 - Lifting History - Steady lifting from 18-27yo, spotty to non-existent lifting for the last 3 years
3 - Height - 6'1"
4 - Weight - 250
5 - Estimated BF% - 32%
6 - Diet - Getting better every week
7 - Goals - 200lbs, 15%, more energy

Hello guys/gals I was a member on here back around 2002 and gained a lot of knowledge. Well I have now forgotten most of that and need your help. As a matter of fact I couldn't even remember my old username or password when I tried to log back in a few years later so I had to open up a new account back in 05.

Long story short-- I have done 5-6 cycles several years ago with fairly good results on all of them. Started at 6'1" 175 w/25% bf and ended up at 225 w/10% bf. Around 6 months after my last cycle I became depressed/ lethargic and became a steamy pile of shit. Last year I was up to 300lbs and what felt like 99% bodyfat... I have been working out for the last year and am now down to 250 and 32% bf which obviously is still life threatening.

It is way past time to step up and reclaim what is left of my life. I have recently hired a personal trainer and dietician, and also had a full blood work-up done just a few days ago so I can better monitor all of my levels post-cycle.

I have a lot of old gear from those past cycles, most of which are expired, and also I have been stock piling enanthate injections I had script written for and never have taken. Your advice would be GREATLY appreciated on the safety of this expired gear and also on any cycle that I am be able to pull from all this old gear. That old Fina I made is probably toast, but it would be great if I could still use some of my old gear. All of my cycles in the past where done for mass building so I am little out of my element looking for lean gains/fat burning. I do know that my diet is going to being even more critical.

My biggest problem right now may be my almost total lack of Anti-E's. I have moved since becoming a fat ass and have lost contact with all of my old hook ups. So hopefully I can start becoming better friends with some local guys to help me out there. Eventually I would also like to get started on a nice HGH regime.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

My Old Gear Breakdown:

15- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.11/2005) Watson Labs
1- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.06/2008) Watson Labs

1- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2006) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.04/2006) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2008) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.11/2008) Delatestryl

3- Enanthate 1cc 250mg/ml (exp.01/2006) Testoviron Depot

1- Enanthate 10cc 250mg/ml (exp. None) Quality Vet

1- Enanthate 10cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2005) Ttokkyo

1- Cypionate 10cc 100mg/ml (exp.01/2006) Pharmacia

1- Propionate 10cc 100mg/ml (exp.10/2005) Quality Vet

1- Stanozol 20cc 100mg/ml (exp.06/2003) Ttokkyo

13- Primobolan 1cc 100mg/ml (exp.03/2004) Schering

12- Primobolan 1cc 100mg/ml (exp.02/2005) Schering

10- Testosterone depot (??) 1cc 250mg/ml (exp. None) Galenika

1- Liquid D-Bol 10cc 25mg/ml (exp.12/2003) Denkall

1- Finaplex 50cc 200mg/ml?? (exp.??) Home-made

22- Spiropent 20mcg (exp.09/2003) Boehringer
10- Clomifene 50mg (exp.08/2005) Fertomid-50
22- Arimidex (??) White, six sided, “50” marked
15- D-bol (??) Pink, five-sided, “T” marked
8- Winny (??) Yellow, five-sided, un-marked
3- Winny (??) White, round, smooth, “A” marked

christ thats a lot of aas bro.lol

 

[Mac173]

christ thats a lot of aas bro.lol

I agree. Way too much for one person.
Hint hint

 

[needtogetaas]

I agree. Way too much for one person.
Hint hint

lol

 

[advanced-stealth]

I agree bro.

IMO. With very few exceptions pharmacuticals don't go bad. They just gradually loose their potency. If it's been kept in a sterile enviroment I'd use it.
I'd have to agree with the prior post regarding losing some of your bodyfat before you return to AAS useage.

 

[digit0x]

I agree. Way too much for one person.
Hint hint

yea... that was almost tactful, you sneaky bastard.

but holy shit 32%? you need to eat 8 servings of rice, spinach and 1 chicken breast a day for 6 months. Cardio every morning before you eat you handful of rice and spinach.

 

[Mac173]

yea... that was almost tactful, you sneaky bastard.

but holy shit 32%? you need to eat 8 servings of rice, spinach and 1 chicken breast a day for 6 months. Cardio every morning before you eat you handful of rice and spinach.

Maybe he'll fall for it.
I'm drueling over that Watson vial.

 

[Svengali]

Bro, have you had a physical to test thyroid and test levels?? You may be able to do some hrt and t3/t4. Thyroid may be the culprit. I would check.

 

[ProMed]

where the heck did u get the cyp dammit thats great american stuff man

I am actually now getting 10cc of 200mg/ml Cypionate every month now from a script from my doc. Below is a pic of this new cyp. However I am keeping it all for myself, I still have hope that I can use it one day! My scripts are always for enanthate but the pharmacy using enanthate and cyp interchangeably. I guess they are so close to each other on a molecular level that clinically they can be swapped?

Anyone can go to an endocrinologist using the low testosterone key words and with an even remotely lower than normal test level you can score. Most docs just treat your symptoms and if you say the right buzz words you can get a script. Tell them your wife/girl is a nurse and will do the injections for you! My test has always been around 4-500 and I have had no trouble with two different docs. As most of you know you na eat very crappy for a few days to get your test levels a little lower before the test.

 

[ProMed]

Bro, have you had a physical to test thyroid and test levels?? You may be able to do some hrt and t3/t4. Thyroid may be the culprit. I would check.

Yes, I had a full blood work done just over a week ago in anticipation of getting starting on something the help kick start my fat loss. Good call on the thyroid bro, I do have hypothroidism and do have .137mcg of synthroid that I recently started taking ed. Since starting this thread I have now ordered Liquid Clen/Nolva/and Clomid to help with fat loss and my eventual PCT. However diet and discipline are the biggest hurdles I am tackling right now!

-EDIT- I have had someone ask and I am sorry but NONE of this gear is for sale, please do not even ask. I was screwed by a scammer several years ago and do not even want to mess with it. Thanks!

 

[ProMed]

22- Arimidex (??) White, six sided, “50” marked
15- D-bol (??) Pink, five-sided, “T” marked
8- Winny (??) Yellow, five-sided, un-marked
3- Winny (??) White, round, smooth, “A” marked

Can anyone help me confirm what these few tabs are that I have above. Would these lose potency more or less quickly than the liquid gear?

 

[ProMed]

but holy shit 32%? you need to eat 8 servings of rice, spinach and 1 chicken breast a day for 6 months. Cardio every morning before you eat you handful of rice and spinach.

I agree that sucks! My home scales is where I am getting 32%, the trainers hand held bf tester is getting 27%... both suck ass. I have the previously mentioned synthroid I am taking now, Hoodia 1000mg complex, Hydroxycut extreme and liquid-clen on the way.

If your diet can leave me with enough energy to not get fired and still be able to drain off in my girl a few times per week I will give it a shot!

 

[muscleup]

wow....you made sense for once.

5 years, 10 years, all that means is reduced potency. it does not mean "it becomes rat poison like left over fish on the counter"

 

[digit0x]

I agree that sucks! My home scales is where I am getting 32%, the trainers hand held bf tester is getting 27%... both suck ass. I have the previously mentioned synthroid I am taking now, Hoodia 1000mg complex, Hydroxycut extreme and liquid-clen on the way.

If your diet can leave me with enough energy to not get fired and still be able to drain off in my girl a few times per week I will give it a shot!

lawl cool bro

But god damn you are a phuqin farmasy man! You must have several $000.00's of drugs there. Stocking up in case of war or what?

 

[Mac173]

Can anyone help me confirm what these few tabs are that I have above. Would these lose potency more or less quickly than the liquid gear?

I doubt the one that says "50" is adex.
That dosage doesn't add up.
Couldn't tell ya about the other ones though.

 

[digit0x]

Maybe he'll fall for it.
I'm drueling over that Watson vial.

Yea bro I'm in some kind of primordial heat looking at all that gear. Injectable Dbol... haven't even seen that yet. Cyp and Enth from 3 dif vendors, primo more dbol...

I look at those pix and one thing comes to mind... YEEE HAWWW

 

[ProMed]

lawl cool bro

But god damn you are a phuqin farmasy man! You must have several $000.00's of drugs there. Stocking up in case of war or what?

LOL, compared to some of my old buddies my little expired pile is very tiny!

 

[ProMed]

Just ordered some more fina and a 4g conversion kit. How about running the tren w/ a little enanthate and ECA to help burn off more fat?

 

[anthony518]

??????????????

 

[snowyk12]

IM drooling

 

[Acela]

Basic Background:
1 - Age - 30
2 - Lifting History - Steady lifting from 18-27yo, spotty to non-existent lifting for the last 3 years
3 - Height - 6'1"
4 - Weight - 250
5 - Estimated BF% - 32%
6 - Diet - Getting better every week
7 - Goals - 200lbs, 15%, more energy

Hello guys/gals I was a member on here back around 2002 and gained a lot of knowledge. Well I have now forgotten most of that and need your help. As a matter of fact I couldn't even remember my old username or password when I tried to log back in a few years later so I had to open up a new account back in 05.

Long story short-- I have done 5-6 cycles several years ago with fairly good results on all of them. Started at 6'1" 175 w/25% bf and ended up at 225 w/10% bf. Around 6 months after my last cycle I became depressed/ lethargic and became a steamy pile of shit. Last year I was up to 300lbs and what felt like 99% bodyfat... I have been working out for the last year and am now down to 250 and 32% bf which obviously is still life threatening.

It is way past time to step up and reclaim what is left of my life. I have recently hired a personal trainer and dietician, and also had a full blood work-up done just a few days ago so I can better monitor all of my levels post-cycle.

I have a lot of old gear from those past cycles, most of which are expired, and also I have been stock piling enanthate injections I had script written for and never have taken. Your advice would be GREATLY appreciated on the safety of this expired gear and also on any cycle that I am be able to pull from all this old gear. That old Fina I made is probably toast, but it would be great if I could still use some of my old gear. All of my cycles in the past where done for mass building so I am little out of my element looking for lean gains/fat burning. I do know that my diet is going to being even more critical.

My biggest problem right now may be my almost total lack of Anti-E's. I have moved since becoming a fat ass and have lost contact with all of my old hook ups. So hopefully I can start becoming better friends with some local guys to help me out there. Eventually I would also like to get started on a nice HGH regime.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

My Old Gear Breakdown:

15- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.11/2005) Watson Labs
1- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.06/2008) Watson Labs

1- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2006) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.04/2006) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2008) Delatestryl
2- Enanthate 5cc 200mg/ml (exp.11/2008) Delatestryl

3- Enanthate 1cc 250mg/ml (exp.01/2006) Testoviron Depot

1- Enanthate 10cc 250mg/ml (exp. None) Quality Vet

1- Enanthate 10cc 200mg/ml (exp.03/2005) Ttokkyo

1- Cypionate 10cc 100mg/ml (exp.01/2006) Pharmacia

1- Propionate 10cc 100mg/ml (exp.10/2005) Quality Vet

1- Stanozol 20cc 100mg/ml (exp.06/2003) Ttokkyo

13- Primobolan 1cc 100mg/ml (exp.03/2004) Schering

12- Primobolan 1cc 100mg/ml (exp.02/2005) Schering

10- Testosterone depot (??) 1cc 250mg/ml (exp. None) Galenika

1- Liquid D-Bol 10cc 25mg/ml (exp.12/2003) Denkall

1- Finaplex 50cc 200mg/ml?? (exp.??) Home-made

22- Spiropent 20mcg (exp.09/2003) Boehringer
10- Clomifene 50mg (exp.08/2005) Fertomid-50
22- Arimidex (??) White, six sided, “50” marked
15- D-bol (??) Pink, five-sided, “T” marked
8- Winny (??) Yellow, five-sided, un-marked
3- Winny (??) White, round, smooth, “A” marked

Great find