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Everyones opinion on IP?

galaxy

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Just curious, havent seen much about him lately on this board. Back in the day, u wouldnt have a day go by without an IP thread.lol So whats the low down on his products today? Is he still hit or miss? Still too much alcohol or what?............And how is his customer service? I remember getting my ass chewed by him over nothing several years ago, yet im hearing its improved now? Is it even the same guy handling the emails?
 
dude the question is this- WHY TAKE A CHANCE WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS A "QUETIONABLE" REPUTATION AT BEST , WHEN U CAN GET WAY BETTER GEAR ELSEWHERE, WHY RISK IT? NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME
 
monster2929 said:
dude the question is this- WHY TAKE A CHANCE WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS A "QUETIONABLE" REPUTATION AT BEST , WHEN U CAN GET WAY BETTER GEAR ELSEWHERE, WHY RISK IT? NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME


So true. There's too many U.G. labs who'll give you good products at comparable prices. That used to be I.P.'s big draw, his prices. Thats gone now. Might as well buy some creatine and then stab yourself in the glute with an icepick. You'll get the I.P. experience...... At least thats how it was for me.
 
monster2929 said:
dude the question is this- WHY TAKE A CHANCE WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS A "QUETIONABLE" REPUTATION AT BEST , WHEN U CAN GET WAY BETTER GEAR ELSEWHERE, WHY RISK IT? NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME

take this statement to heart. i bought some a few years back, got good gains off of the dbol but i took 50 mg i believe it was very underdosed. also took adrol and didn´t notice any difference. so its hit or miss. much better off going with a good rep over questionable.
 
Ulter said:
His lab tests always did and still are pathetic.

We got together on getswole dot com about two months ago and had his 15mg Anavar tested and it came back at 14.4mg, which I wouldn't call pathetic. I think IP has gotten a lot better in the last few years but so many bros had already written him off (myself included), that a lot of people haven't noticed. As far as tabs go, I trust his as much as I trust other UG suppliers, if not more.
 
Now is the same guy u email today the same one u emailed say 4 years ago? I only ask because ive heard customer relations have improved.
 
On a side not i almost just got banned at professional muscle for talking shit about IP.LOL Im thinking is this the same guy who everyone referred to as bath tub gear about 4 yrs ago all over this board and anabolex?LOL I guess hes a sponsor tho.

On another note i understand needing sponsors but the shameless plugs really get out of hand.lol....I was just reading some of Nelson Montanas old post about not using clomid pct but instead using his product "Unleashed".LOL Of course his site was a sponsor back then so he could get away with just talking out his ass.lol

anyway...........................lmao
 
I have been dealing with IP for over 3 years now with great products and great service. You take a chance dealing with any UG Lab. The only way to trust the product is to be making it yourself or to have the product you are purchasing tested once in awhile.
 
galaxy said:
Just curious, havent seen much about him lately on this board. Back in the day, u wouldnt have a day go by without an IP thread.lol So whats the low down on his products today? Is he still hit or miss? Still too much alcohol or what?............And how is his customer service? I remember getting my ass chewed by him over nothing several years ago, yet im hearing its improved now? Is it even the same guy handling the emails?



the Ip products are very potent and produce results.
 
ALIN said:
the Ip products are very potent and produce results.

I am counting on this as my upcoming cycle (starts monday) is made up of almost entirely IP gear (oils and tabs). I will make my own opinion as there is always conflicting veiw points on this subject. I will post results for all to see and to add my experience to this debate.
 
ALIN said:
the Ip products are very potent and produce results.

OT but is this the same ALIN that had all that bother on Anabolex/Swoles forum not so long ago?
 
Anthony Starks said:
We got together on getswole dot com about two months ago and had his 15mg Anavar tested and it came back at 14.4mg, which I wouldn't call pathetic. I think IP has gotten a lot better in the last few years but so many bros had already written him off (myself included), that a lot of people haven't noticed. As far as tabs go, I trust his as much as I trust other UG suppliers, if not more.

That's good. Now test a batch next month and see if it's still anavar. His inventory is based on his finances and access to materials. He makes his product in an apartment over a whore house in a very unclean environment. (I read a government police report describing it)
I am glad when he comes through for people. The point is though, why bother.
 
I've been using him for about 5 years & have NEVER, EVER been dissapointed by his products or services. Always felt spot on to me & did exactly what they should. I cannot fault the guy, people who do have either have a hidden agenda or have not bought direct or used an approved remailer of the likes of Alin.
 
Ulter said:
He makes his product in an apartment over a whore house in a very unclean environment. (I read a government police report describing it)


Any possibility you could post that report? I'd love to see it. Thanks.
 
I was allowed to see the report because a friend of mine in customs got a hold of it and showed it to me in confidence. Posting it on the internet would be completely out of the question. I wasn't the only one on this board to see it at the time. But I may be the only one still posting here because it was a couple years ago.
BTW - I have posted about it several times. IP has never denied it.
 
I would never pump any IP gear into my body thats for sure i respect it far too much

Wrongun!
 
Ulter said:
That's good. Now test a batch next month and see if it's still anavar. His inventory is based on his finances and access to materials. He makes his product in an apartment over a whore house in a very unclean environment. (I read a government police report describing it)
I am glad when he comes through for people. The point is though, why bother.

perfectly stated!

In fact this should be posted any time any asks something about IP as was the case a few yrs ago when it seemed every other thread was an IP thread.
 
Galaxy

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He's a Nazi and you are a piece of sh*t. Oh and you are an ignorant piece of sh*t, yes you are!

Don't you come around here and start messing with a man's integrity that you know absolutely nothing about.

Now there are probably less than 10 guys in the world who never took advantage of IP and Mike S. is one and I am one of the others.

IP is a good man who believes in God and is honest and a much harder worker than most any of us here.

He is an outstanding individual, and to show you what a phuck you are and what a scholarly man he is, that was IP who was contentious and used such broken english with you 4 years ago and that is IP who answers the emails today with significantly improved english and customer service skills. He has worked too hard at improving himself, his product, and his customer service skills over these last few years to let some phuck like you come out of the wood work with an impression he had of him from 4 years ago.

It was bullsh*t then and I would have told you so back then on the elite fitness board or where-ever it was you said you are from and it is pure bullsh*t today. I would have tried to sensitize you to the cultural differences
and the fact that Chinese people don't trust one another and haggle alot and are loud, and that 90% of everything sold in China is counterfeit. But what a phucking waste of effort that would have been.

You are the ignorant, ugly, American bro, and you hurt the rest of us overseas.

IP is my friend and you better know what the phuck you are talking about when you go attacking a man's friend.

You don't, go away, and stay off a thread, that was to be positive and a bump for the guy!

Allbeef
 
Well he believes in God , so im sold..............LMAO

And to think, i was just legitimately asking questions about him cus i was considering some of his orals.

And im pretty sure Allbeef has a hidden agenda when it comes to IP as i could drag up an old post of his from anabolex where he jumps all over Elitefitness for trashing IP and i guess there was some questions on some people here back in the day "snitching " as he put it and IP losing more money in one day than i would see in a year.............God this allbeef is really arrogant....almost sounds like IP himself.lol......hmm i wonder?lol
 
kbrkbr said:
IP's orals are among my favorites.

I would have to agree. Other UG labs come and go, one month they are great, the next they are scammers. Plus, most charge 2-3x what IP charges. He has been a mainstay in the BBing world for years providing a good product at a great price. The only way I could ever afford to do my beloved Var cycles are becuase his prices are amazing. And I don't need the lab report to prove what I already know, from the results alone I can tell its legit stuff.

I'm not knocking anyone in this particulaar thread, but a large majority of IP bashers are people with a financial interest in seeing his sales drop because they simply cannot or do not want to compete with his prices. Then there are the newbies that just parrot back the bashing they hear from the top dogs on the boards. Very few of the IP bashers have actually done a cycle with his gear, eaten and trained properly, and still have not grown. Of course IMHO.
 
Waaaay too much variability for the vets. Like said above newbies love him cause they don't know any better and if it's all you can get then it is the best stuff in the world better than nothing.
In the past have seen 1000's of posts about questions on orals being sent sometimes someone will get yellow tabs as var and orange the next time, cases of inert orals aka drol producing no gains at all, variability in dosings lot to lot as pointed out, injectables always seem to be very high in BA (painful injects test flu and sterile abcesses) and people have been instructed to bake and boil in an oven or in a spoon over an open flame :rolleyes: :eek2: or dilute with "salad" oil for his high dosed injectables LMAO (not funny actually sad) reckless shit at times IMO-I have been out of the loop on IP for the last few years so hard to tell what's up now....no hidden agenda here........
 
MassiveG300 said:
Waaaay too much variability for the vets. Like said above newbies love him cause they don't know any better and if it's all you can get then it is the best stuff in the world better than nothing.


I've used his orals on many, many ocassions and have never noticed any of this variability you refer to.

As far as being a newb is concerned, I doubt anyone would still consider me one after all my years on the boards.

I never used IP because it was all I could get. Good bros on this and other boards have been very generous with me and my list of sources is a complete as anyone I know. I used IP because of price and quality, not desperation.

That said, I must be honest and admit that I no longer use IP as my source for orals because I enjoy homebrewing and now go the powder route.

It's one thing to insult IP without any personal knowledge of his products, but it's quite another to insult those of us who have chosen to see beyond the IP bashing and have the experience/knowledge to determine the quality of his products for ourselves.
 
kbrkbr said:
I've used his orals on many, many ocassions and have never noticed any of this variability you refer to.

As far as being a newb is concerned, I doubt anyone would still consider me one after all my years on the boards.

I never used IP because it was all I could get. Good bros on this and other boards have been very generous with me and my list of sources is a complete as anyone I know. I used IP because of price and quality, not desperation.

That said, I must be honest and admit that I no longer use IP as my source for orals because I enjoy homebrewing and now go the powder route.

It's one thing to insult IP without any personal knowledge of his products, but it's quite another to insult those of us who have chosen to see beyond the IP bashing and have the experience/knowledge to determine the quality of his products for ourselves.

You're a good bro kbrkbr!!! K :Chef: :tuc:
 
kbrkbr said:
I've used his orals on many, many ocassions and have never noticed any of this variability you refer to.

As far as being a newb is concerned, I doubt anyone would still consider me one after all my years on the boards.

I never used IP because it was all I could get. Good bros on this and other boards have been very generous with me and my list of sources is a complete as anyone I know. I used IP because of price and quality, not desperation.

That said, I must be honest and admit that I no longer use IP as my source for orals because I enjoy homebrewing and now go the powder route.

It's one thing to insult IP without any personal knowledge of his products, but it's quite another to insult those of us who have chosen to see beyond the IP bashing and have the experience/knowledge to determine the quality of his products for ourselves.

Not getting into an internet pissing match with you or anyone else and I don't comment on things I don't have experience with. Trust me.
I don't have a problem with IP either...but there is a ton of negative feedback, posts and lab tests buried on the boards as well as positive feedback also. I ain't gonne dig it up.
Take it or leave it.
PEACE
 
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