everyone who does multiple rep deadlifts...

[bgflpydnky]

Do you do multiple reps (touch the ground lightly and come up again) or do you set the weight down completely, setup again, and left from a dead stop?
I've read somewhere that it's better to do 1 set of 10 reps as 10 sets of 1 rep. What do you think?

 

[WalkingBeast]

I touch the ground (usually not lightly at all!) and come back up. I find no reason for me to reset after each rep. My lowerback numbs out real good regardless. It might be more useful for a competitive powerlifter to keep good form by resetting the weight after each rep, since their one rep max is what counts in competition. Hope that helps!

 

[wnt2bBeast]

touch and go for me no resetting...

 

[2horns]

touch and go for me

 

[ChinkNasty]

yea bro...touch and go (not so lightly towards the end haha)...keeps me in a rhythm...beast got it IMO with the resetting - I can only see that helping powerlifters IT for comps.

 

[majutsu]

touch and go for me, but I'm a BBer too, not PL.

 

[lavi]

by resetting do you mean a slight pause?

 

[callthedoctor]

When it gets heavy...I set it down and do low reps (3-5) and really think about my grip and form, sometimes taking a second or two...I'm older and don't want to blow anything...

 

[bgflpydnky]

This is where I got it from...

The Dead Zone
The Top 10 Deadlifting Mistakes and How to Fix Them
by Dave Tate



Mistake #7: Training with multiple reps
Next time you see someone doing multiple reps on the deadlift, take note of the form of each rep. You'll see the later reps look nothing like the first. In competition you only have to pull once, so you need to learn how to develop what's known as starting strength for the deadlift. This is the strength needed to get the bar off the floor without an eccentric (negative) action before the start.
In other words, you don't lower the bar first and then lift the weight as you do with the squat and bench press. When you train with multiple reps you're beginning to develop reversal strength, which isn't needed with the deadlift.
These two reasons are enough to keep the deadlift training to singles. If you're using multiple reps with the deadlift, then stand up in between each rep and restart the lift. This way you'll be teaching the proper form and be developing the right kind of strength.

 

[lavi]

I've seen that article too. Most people here are bodybuilders though. Would a pause not be the same as standing up and restarting the lift? Also, that'd be a pain in the ass if you're using straps...

 

[wnt2bBeast]

This is where I got it from...

The Dead Zone
The Top 10 Deadlifting Mistakes and How to Fix Them
by Dave Tate



Mistake #7: Training with multiple reps
Next time you see someone doing multiple reps on the deadlift, take note of the form of each rep. You'll see the later reps look nothing like the first. In competition you only have to pull once, so you need to learn how to develop what's known as starting strength for the deadlift. This is the strength needed to get the bar off the floor without an eccentric (negative) action before the start.
In other words, you don't lower the bar first and then lift the weight as you do with the squat and bench press. When you train with multiple reps you're beginning to develop reversal strength, which isn't needed with the deadlift.
These two reasons are enough to keep the deadlift training to singles. If you're using multiple reps with the deadlift, then stand up in between each rep and restart the lift. This way you'll be teaching the proper form and be developing the right kind of strength.

I understnad the rationale if your a competetive Pl'er..if you dont compete it wont hurt you to do multiple reps..besides i think the article is generally referring to the very very heavy sets..generally my first work set allows me to keep good form for all 10 reps..as i add weight i drop the reps lower than i would for most other exercises..

 

[Cuthbert]

Reset,it keeps your form better.

Anyone who says their form doesn't break down is either not using enough weight or lying.

 

[b fold the truth]

Reset,it keeps your form better.

Anyone who says their form doesn't break down is either not using enough weight or lying.

Agree...

I did 590 x 5 tonight after squats and I had to reset quickly between reps. With 320-500 or so...the weight is usually so light that I can just pump them out though.

Like you said about the weight being heavy though...I agree.

B True

 

[cwick0]

touch and go. i only do sets of 10 on deads, but i stop at 315.

 

[Lumberg]

I do touch and go but again I am not gonna compete.....

 

[d3track]

Agree...

I did 590 x 5 tonight after squats and I had to reset quickly between reps. With 320-500 or so...the weight is usually so light that I can just pump them out though.

Like you said about the weight being heavy though...I agree.

B True

i will reset when i start getting heavier

but first couple pyramid sets are touch and go

 

[Lord_Suston]

Gotta reset,IMO. When I reset even though it take maybe .5sec it help my pull after by being faster and why get the bounce or stretch reflex let your muscles do the work, that is why we lift weights. PLus injury is too common with no resetting form

 

[Buddy_Christ]

i touch and go with resetting as necessary. i only do 5 rep work sets (5x5) and it's not uncommon if at rep 3 or 4 i need to take a quick pause. if i feel the need to make an adjustment, i have no problem stopping real quick to do it.

 

[casualbb]

If you're deadlifting to build muscles instead of deadlifting to get stronger at deadlifting, I wouldn't adivse resetting.

It drains your energy by denying some of the elastic strength that you get from doing a positive after a negative. Would you pause at the bottom of each bench press rep and let it sit on your chest for 5 seconds?

Lack of reset shouldn't be a form issue if you're not training to failure...

 

[lavi]

I've seen that article too. Most people here are bodybuilders though. Would a pause not be the same as standing up and restarting the lift? Also, that'd be a pain in the ass if you're using straps...

bumpin this...

Also, I heard that you can somewhat take advantage of the stretch reflex by starting your deadlift quickly rather than taking your time at the bottom before you start the lift. If that's true, then pausing at the bottom might actually make it even harder. Would it be helpful though?

 

[Lumberg]

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[b fold the truth]

If you're deadlifting to build muscles instead of deadlifting to get stronger at deadlifting, I wouldn't adivse resetting.

Pausing at the bottom is more difficult than touch and go. I'm curious as to how it would stimulate mucsle more to touch and go.

It drains your energy by denying some of the elastic strength that you get from doing a positive after a negative. Would you pause at the bottom of each bench press rep and let it sit on your chest for 5 seconds?

Pausing at the bottom of the bench is not comparable to resetting on the deadlift. Pausing at the TOP would be. Pausing at the chest on the bench would be similar to pausing near the top of the deadlift...and that is a big maybe.

Lack of reset shouldn't be a form issue if you're not training to failure...

A lack of reset has caused many people to lead to injury with intense sets...myself included. The bar starts at a different position optimally than it will end up at the end of the deadlift.

B True

 

[casualbb]

Bfold, I agree with you, and I'd probably give the same advice if the trainee were strength training instead of bodybuilding.

I would advise bodybuilders to avoid maxing out on deadlift, and also not to work near failure as form can get shoddy.

Also, the way the stretch reflex works is that the instant after you lower the weight (eccentric), the muscles produce force just by having been stretched, reducing the force the lifter must produce. So resetting a deadlift is similar to pausing with the bench press bar on the chest because they both interrupt the stretch reflex. That's the reason why spatts will approach the bar very quickly on a deadlift, it initiates a slight stretch reflex that can increase numbers.

 

[b fold the truth]

Bfold, I agree with you, and I'd probably give the same advice if the trainee were strength training instead of bodybuilding.

I would advise bodybuilders to avoid maxing out on deadlift, and also not to work near failure as form can get shoddy.

Also, the way the stretch reflex works is that the instant after you lower the weight (eccentric), the muscles produce force just by having been stretched, reducing the force the lifter must produce. So resetting a deadlift is similar to pausing with the bench press bar on the chest because they both interrupt the stretch reflex. That's the reason why spatts will approach the bar very quickly on a deadlift, it initiates a slight stretch reflex that can increase numbers.

I think that I can understand what you are saying, and it does make sense to me also.

B True

 

[Forge]

i touch and go with resetting as necessary. i only do 5 rep work sets (5x5) and it's not uncommon if at rep 3 or 4 i need to take a quick pause. if i feel the need to make an adjustment, i have no problem stopping real quick to do it.

This is pretty much what I do, touch and go unless I feel like I need a quick reset. I'd rather reset than get hurt.