Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below im now 27 years old. i did my first cycle at 20. throughout that time period ive done a total of about 10 cycles. Ive used multiple different compounds. ive used them correctly and thoroughly researched everything, and never had a medical issue. every physical ive had in this time period showed that i was in good health. my previous two cycles have only been test e anywhere between 3-500mg/wk. if i ever use aas again, thats all it will probably be. but, out of curiosity, and i ask this geared mainly toward the veterans here, what are the chances of dying earlier than usual due to what ive done with aas?? i understand this is a question that a lot of aas users will shun and say "theyre safe if used right", which i agree with for the short term. but for those of you who have used on and off for years and years, do you ever have concerns of long term heart damage? is this even a concern to worry about? as much as i love cycling i also worry whether or not i will regret my choices later on in life. for those who respond, please just let this be a discussion and no ridiculous flaming. thanks.
eventual heart trouble with aas?
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i agree, but i guess im looking at the long term. over and over again i hear many in the bodybuilding community state how nobody has ever died due directly to steroid use, and that may be true, but then again its not being looked at the right way. true, test isnt heroin, which means you cant inject "too much" and have it immediately stop your heart, but the bodybuilder who uses for 15 years and dies early of a heart attack at 45, who didnt directly die as a result of aas use, died slowly from aas. i hate to say these things but looking at the ugly reality of it makes me worry, but i wish and hope to be wrong. i love aas.
the guy who eats fried chicken, beer, and greasy pizza everyday and is a couch potato is the prime contender to die at 45 from heart trouble, not a gym rat steroid user.
i think if your body looks good and feels good you will live a long and healthy life. if you feel and look like crap then you will live a crappy life.
thats my view of it.
there are steroid users out there who are overweight and look like crap and there are non-steroid users that look great. so your concern shouldn't be steroids vs. no steroids. it should be good lifestyle vs. poor lifestyle.. which not only means diet and exercise but also stress and other emotional factors including an example of a guy who comes home after 8 hours of a job he fuckin HATES and has to deal with a sexless marriage and a nagging wife and who has 3 screaming and pain the ass kids. that is a dude who will live a miserable life.
vs. a guy who is Free and gets to do what he damn well pleases and has a job he loves and never has to worry about money or any other materialistic thing.
I recommend yoga and meditation if you are an athlete concerned with your heart, it works wonders
i think if your body looks good and feels good you will live a long and healthy life. if you feel and look like crap then you will live a crappy life.
thats my view of it.
there are steroid users out there who are overweight and look like crap and there are non-steroid users that look great. so your concern shouldn't be steroids vs. no steroids. it should be good lifestyle vs. poor lifestyle.. which not only means diet and exercise but also stress and other emotional factors including an example of a guy who comes home after 8 hours of a job he fuckin HATES and has to deal with a sexless marriage and a nagging wife and who has 3 screaming and pain the ass kids. that is a dude who will live a miserable life.
vs. a guy who is Free and gets to do what he damn well pleases and has a job he loves and never has to worry about money or any other materialistic thing.
I recommend yoga and meditation if you are an athlete concerned with your heart, it works wonders
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Yes that is the key. Also what you can also do is not only that but use fish oil, green tea, garlic, and apple cider vinegar year round while not over doing it on the steroids.
you can run a couple low dose cycles per year and heep healthy while hoding a little mass with little risk.
serious body building is a whole other thing. it is horrible for your health in every way. the mcdonalds and fat people argument i hear so often is a cop out. who here hasnt heard about some people who have died at a young age with heart complications that where on aas?
heres a few true stories.
i knew a guy that was in to bodybuilding and he used steroids. he was in his mid 30's and out working on an oil ship when he dropped dead of a heart attack.
i damn near died from heart issues at 32
there where a couple ef members that diet within the last couple years before there time.
there was an e member in his late 20's not that long ago that had a heart attack while he was driving his woman and kids to a holiday dinner. the car wrecked risking everyone. they all lived.
can anyone honestly say steroids are not raising your risks?
steroids, brutal training, carrying a lot of extra weight (muscle or fat), huge diets, high fat diets are all very hard on the heart and other organs. the key to success is to keep health your top priority. eat healthy and just enough to be a little big, do your cardio, and keep the steroids cycles seldom and low dose. 300mg of test for a few months out of a year isnt going to be to bad.
serious body building is a whole other thing. it is horrible for your health in every way. the mcdonalds and fat people argument i hear so often is a cop out. who here hasnt heard about some people who have died at a young age with heart complications that where on aas?
heres a few true stories.
i knew a guy that was in to bodybuilding and he used steroids. he was in his mid 30's and out working on an oil ship when he dropped dead of a heart attack.
i damn near died from heart issues at 32
there where a couple ef members that diet within the last couple years before there time.
there was an e member in his late 20's not that long ago that had a heart attack while he was driving his woman and kids to a holiday dinner. the car wrecked risking everyone. they all lived.
can anyone honestly say steroids are not raising your risks?
steroids, brutal training, carrying a lot of extra weight (muscle or fat), huge diets, high fat diets are all very hard on the heart and other organs. the key to success is to keep health your top priority. eat healthy and just enough to be a little big, do your cardio, and keep the steroids cycles seldom and low dose. 300mg of test for a few months out of a year isnt going to be to bad.
yeah those stories awful.
Obviously over doing anything puts a strain on the heart. Steroids, for the most part, aren't directly damaging to the heart though high dosages effect LDL. The biggest factor over the long term would be weight gain. Even if you're muscular, carrying more weight than your frame was meant to handle will stress the heart. I think this is why the old timers have fared well with steroid use. Those guys stayed slim year 'round. I think the newer crop of 300 + guys are going to have problems.
I always thought roids in moderation was OK, but I think it has to do with kind of compound your're taking, WINNY messed
my lipids up so bad I'm on MEDS. The sad part is my diet was on total point when I was on it! I shot straight with my Dr. about
using aas she said TEST in moderation isn't all that bad, but everything else will eventually get to you. But the way I see it is this is the
life I chosen, so whatever happens it's my fault.
my lipids up so bad I'm on MEDS. The sad part is my diet was on total point when I was on it! I shot straight with my Dr. about
using aas she said TEST in moderation isn't all that bad, but everything else will eventually get to you. But the way I see it is this is the
life I chosen, so whatever happens it's my fault.
thats exactly how i see it. i agree with the low dosage cycles too. ive found that i gain a ton off of 300mg/test and look phenomenal, and have a lower risk of sides. to the guy who mentioned cardio and fish oil, i agree as well. i do cardio 3 times a week for about 15-20 min at a time, drink a cup of hot green tea a day and 3-4 fish oil caps./
ive always felt great on test. the worst i ever felt was when i added tren and winny to my cycle. though ive only used it once, i feel like it was a mistake. the side effects, mental and physical, were NOT worth it for the gains
