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Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart threatens to kill gays. What a moron.

BodyByFinaplix said:
Well if you want to get TECHNICALLY Sunday is not even the Sabbath... no I do not go to church. I read my bible at home, and my prayers are between God and I.

So, guess I am going to Hell for having sex, orb?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news orb, but any sex outside of marriage is considered adultery from a Biblical standpoint. Read Matthew 5:27-30, Jesus explains it quite clearly. Paul also addresses the issue in 1Cor 7.

I'm not calling you out on the issue orb, it's between you and God. I learned a long time ago that it's pointless to single out issues like this (premarital sex, homosexuality, etc.) because doing so causes one to lose sight of the bigger picture.

i.e.

Hypothetical situation: Let's say you or I (or any other Christian for that matter) encounter someone who is not a believer, and through conversation learns that this person is engaged in a lifestyle that is clearly outside of Biblical standards. We'll use homosexuality as an example. The Bible clearly and undeniably states that this lifestyle is an abomination in Gods eyes.

O.K., we've got that established.

Now, say the abovementioned believer somehow manages to convince this person that their lifestyle is unacceptable to God and they agree to repent 100% of said lifestyle. Exactly what has said believer accomplished?

Absolutely nothing!

Does their repentance of this one "sin" in their lives make them "right with God?"

No!

Why?

Because although this person may have repented of one particular sin in their life, what about all the rest of the sin in their life? Trying to convince someone to repent of one sin at a time is like trying to fell a forest one leaf at a time. It just ain't gonna happen.

Leave these individual issues alone. Encourage the person to develop their own relationship with God, and let HIM deal with the individual issues in their lives.

That being said, I agree that Swaggert and the most of these so-called "Christian" (and I'm using that term VERY loosely here) TV evangelists are doing FAR more damage than good!

To wrap it up, read Matthew 7:21-29. Remember those words.
 
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BodyByFinaplix said:
Well not all Christians share that view. I'm a Christian, and I do not hate homosexuals, nor would I kill one for just looking at me. Christ taught love and forgiveness, not hatred and murder. So any gay men or women who are reading this, please do not think ALL Christians hate you or even think less of you for being gay.

Televangelist... now there is a group that makes me sick to my stomach sometimes...

A agree. While their are many good radio preachers, tv only has one and that is Billy Graham.
 
IvanOffelitch said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news orb, but any sex outside of marriage is considered adultery from a Biblical standpoint. Read Matthew 5:27-30, Jesus explains it quite clearly. Paul also addresses the issue in 1Cor 7.

I'm not calling you out on the issue orb, it's between you and God. I learned a long time ago that it's pointless to single out issues like this (premarital sex, homosexuality, etc.) because doing so causes one to lose sight of the bigger picture.

i.e.

Hypothetical situation: Let's say you or I (or any other Christian for that matter) encounter someone who is not a believer, and through conversation learns that this person is engaged in a lifestyle that is clearly outside of Biblical standards. We'll use homosexuality as an example. The Bible clearly and undeniably states that this lifestyle is an abomination in Gods eyes.

O.K., we've got that established.

Now, say the abovementioned believer somehow manages to convince this person that their lifestyle is unacceptable to God and they agree to repent 100% of said lifestyle. Exactly what has said believer accomplished?

Absolutely nothing!

Does their repentance of this one "sin" in their lives make them "right with God?"

No!

Why?

Because although this person may have repented of one particular sin in their life, what about all the rest of the sin in their life? Trying to convince someone to repent of one sin at a time is like trying to fell a forest one leaf at a time. It just ain't gonna happen.

Leave these individual issues alone. Encourage the person to develop their own relationship with God, and let HIM deal with the individual issues in their lives.

That being said, I agree that Swaggert and the most of these so-called "Christian" (and I'm using that term VERY loosely here) TV evangelists are doing FAR more damage than good!

To wrap it up, read Matthew 7:21-29. Remember those words.

More or less what I beleive. Leading a Christ like life is not trying to figure out and correct all of your sins, but rather to have a relationship with God, try to be a good person, help others and tell others that Christ came here to forgive whever sins they fall short on, not to judge them. If we must identify and seek atonement for every sin in our lives in order to enter heaven, then His sacrifice ment nothing.
 
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