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brownpaperbag04
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average does per DAY is 75mg-100mg. It has a very short half life. There is no need to stack EQ with winny or deca if you're planning on cutting...it does a great job on it's own...save your money. If you're bulking, you definately want to use something else as your primary steriod.
The half-life is approximately 14 days.
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-steroid-half-life.asp
Which would make once a week injects ideal.
It is sometimes thought to have a short half-life by some because of its once low mg/ml concentrations. Just a few years ago the highest concentration was 50mg/ml, and in order to get the high doses normally used by bbers volumous injections were needed, so they were spread out throughout the week. Now that 200mg/ml versions are available this is no longer needed.
Typical dose would be anywhere from 300 - 700mgs - week.
EQ, Deca, Winstrol - I've done this exact stack with great results. However I'd suggest you use some testosterone with it also for libido purposes.
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-steroid-half-life.asp
Which would make once a week injects ideal.
It is sometimes thought to have a short half-life by some because of its once low mg/ml concentrations. Just a few years ago the highest concentration was 50mg/ml, and in order to get the high doses normally used by bbers volumous injections were needed, so they were spread out throughout the week. Now that 200mg/ml versions are available this is no longer needed.
Typical dose would be anywhere from 300 - 700mgs - week.
EQ, Deca, Winstrol - I've done this exact stack with great results. However I'd suggest you use some testosterone with it also for libido purposes.
cmtuggl said:
What? You couldn't be more wrong. EQ is good to go at 300-700mg PER WEEK. Daily???
Don't give out bad advice!
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CanadianBro
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doublebicep said:
I think the reason he stated per DAY was because the original
question was per DAY.
I do not think CMTUGGL meant that you should INJECT every day.
He just converted the weekly dosage into a daily figure.
CanadianBro said:
I disagree bro. CMTUGGL also stated that:
Which is completely wrong. Just all around bad information/advice.
EQ is usually shot twice a week for the following reason: Depending on the brand you go with the concentration could be anywhwere from 50mg/ml to 200mg/ml. 500mg/ml if you count Proline's underdosed high dosed line. 600mg at 50mg/ml would be 12ml, which would be 4 syringe loads. I use 200mg/ml so I inject 1.5ml E4D.
dial_tone has a good point. Volume due to concentration vs frequency is a consideration.
TheRide
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genarr3 said:
Rather then repete Gnarr3... I agree on all accounts. I've also doen that same stack. Yes, defiatly add some test and depending on the duration and mg of the deca, PCT. I've never had probs w/EQ and recovery but when I added in Deca that time I needed a jup start @ the end of the cycle.
Personally I'd do EQ 400-600/week 10-12wks- Winny 50mg EOD 6wks. I think that's a great cycle.
TheRide said:
I agree. Another good cycle is:
EQ 500MG per week.
Test (not prop - rather cyp or sust) 100MG per week (just like an HRT dose...but in this case for libido.)
Clean said:
Wouldn't:
(2cc at 200mg/ml) x (2 time perweek) = 800mg per week?
400 x 2 = 800?
Not trying to flame you, I just don't see where you are getting 400mg per week out of this?
Clean said:
Okay, just making sure I wasn't losing it! lol
What is wrong with a 2cc EQ 200mg/ml inject 1 per week? I would much rather do that then 2 1cc injects per week. I don't think 2cc is too much volume for 1 inject. Do you?
JAYMAN014
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Blood levals are higher when injected twice/wk vs. once, I also read that with sust another long acting ester that front loading wk,1&2 kept a higher blood leval throughout cycle vs. not. Although I posted on this several weeks ago and many people said that there was no need to frontload EQ and anybody that said you should hasn't tried both ways, so I didn't.
genarr3 said:
Yup. I too thought that it had a short half life once upon a time when I was reading the WAR book days. The undeclynate ester(attached to eq - boldenone undeclynate) actually is the longest ester attached to anabolic steroids right now.
cmtuggle it's all good you were just misinformed.
speedy7
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I am trying trenfactor labs eq right now I will keep u guys updated on its quality. One month now at 560mg/week and I am not getting as cut as I thought I would. My calories are not that high either. I was taking 240mg of cyp with it for a while but I just cut it out. I know the cyp was working cuz my strength went way up. A few weeks without the test will show wht the eq will do by itself. i was thinking of getting it tested but that costs 100 bucks.
brownpaperbag04
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yeah sorry I was thinking of trenbolone instead of Boldenone when I was replying...my bad!!! I feel like such a jackass.
cmtuggl said:
yeah sorry I was thinking of trenbolone instead of Boldenone when I was replying...my bad!!! I feel like such a jackass.
No worrys bro. I thought it was something like that. We are all here to help each other out.
BTW: Way to stand-up bro!
For whatever reason i'm not one who has trouble with libido ever. I'm currently in week 9 of EQ/Deca and I jumpstarted with 6 weeks of Fina. According to rumors my penis should have fallen off by now. I spanked it last night and still woke up with morning wood, which I also took care of.
bicepts101
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Clean said:
i just did 2cc in my shoulder the other day. i have small shoulders too.
if its a low concentration its no prob
b1ewsw32
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It would be the better choice, however he's using it just to maintain his test levels within normal natural production paramaters to keep libido intact.Fat_Sumo said:
Prop has to be administered EOD=33.333mg eod to =100mgs./wk
A longer acting ester like cyp or enth would allow for once a week dosing. 100mgs/wk-25mgs(esterfied weight)=75mgs.=10+change/day which is approx.normal(high) male natural daily secretion.
It is impractical to shoot such a small dose of prop eod, and the water retention is minimal with both compounds at this dose.
The only difference is the prop. delivers approx. 86mgs. of unesterfied test and the cyp or enth-75mgs. No biggie.
B32
Fat_Sumo said:
Too short acting to use for HRT. I have never heard of anyone using prop for HRT.
b1ewsw32 said:It would be the better choice, however he's using it just to maintain his test levels within normal natural production paramaters to keep libido intact.
Prop has to be administered EOD=33.333mg eod to =100mgs./wk
A longer acting ester like cyp or enth would allow for once a week dosing. 100mgs/wk-25mgs(esterfied weight)=75mgs.=10+change/day which is approx.normal(high) male natural daily secretion.
It is impractical to shoot such a small dose of prop eod, and the water retention is minimal with both compounds at this dose.
The only difference is the prop. delivers approx. 86mgs. of unesterfied test and the cyp or enth-75mgs. No biggie.
B32
Exactly. The cycle is really an EQ cycle - not a test cycle. The test is just for HRT while shutdown. I don't want to have to inject EOD compared to 1 per week. (Yep, that is right, 2cc of EQ and 1/2cc of test - once per week! The test is 250mg/ml sust but cyp or enth would be about the same.)
I am not a pin cushion. I really do not enjoy injecting.
