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Equipoise help for a sprinter???

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i'm a college sprinter. i know that i am definately not going to be tested. i need help with equipoise. i'm not trying to get huge, just stronger. i've been told a lot of different things on how to use it and what to combine it with. but the stuff thats available to me is limited. i can definately get "the cream" and human growth hormone - somatropin - , but HGH is really expensive so it would be limited.

i have done a lot of research on equipoise but its really hard to find help for sprinters. so i'm not completely in the dark about the drug itself. i'm hoping somebody can help me with a cycle or something, or at least guide me somewhere where i can get help.

the season just started at the beginning of february, and championships are may 17.

heres my info, i'm 5'10. 170. with about 8.5% bf. and for the track experts i'm more of a 400/200 runner. my pr's are 10.80, 21.55, and 48.20. i want to get into the 46's and 20.s.

thx in advance.
 
jag831 said:
i'm a college sprinter. i know that i am definately not going to be tested. i need help with equipoise. i'm not trying to get huge, just stronger. i've been told a lot of different things on how to use it and what to combine it with. but the stuff thats available to me is limited. i can definately get "the cream" and human growth hormone - somatropin - , but human growth hormone - somatropin - is really expensive so it would be limited.

i have done a lot of research on equipoise but its really hard to find help for sprinters. so i'm not completely in the dark about the drug itself. i'm hoping somebody can help me with a cycle or something, or at least guide me somewhere where i can get help.

the season just started at the beginning of february, and championships are may 17.

heres my info, i'm 5'10. 170. with about 8.5% bf. and for the track experts i'm more of a 400/200 runner. my pr's are 10.80, 21.55, and 48.20. i want to get into the 46's and 20.s.

thx in advance.
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Jumpmaster82 should jump in and give some info he is knowlegable about Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . The thing is you shouldnt run it by it self because it will supress your natural test levels so you should run a low dose of Test say 300mgs ew along with the EQ and run the Dose of EQ at 400-600mgs ew to around 12-14 wks and run the Test two weeks longer then the EQ. Have you ever cycled before or will this be your first? How is your diet?
 
this is my first time with any type of AAS. i have a pretty decent diet. now that the season is starting it is definately going to improve a bit. people have told me run 400-600 mg/wk 12 weeks, w/ test, but i'm afraid that if i take that much i'm going to bulk up too much, during the season i expect to get down between 4 and 6% bf.
 
jag831 said:
this is my first time with any type of anabolic androgenic steroids. i have a pretty decent diet. now that the season is starting it is definately going to improve a bit. people have told me run 400-600 mg/wk 12 weeks, w/ test, but i'm afraid that if i take that much i'm going to bulk up too much, during the season i expect to get down between 4 and 6% bf.
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Well i dont think you should go with 600mgs of test for you first cycle bro. If your trying to stay lean EQ i heard is a good way to go since you hold less water weight with it the gains are slow and steady but very keepable you just have to run a higher dose with EQ and like i said it will shut your natural test levels down so if you want a sex drive take a low dose of test with it say 200mgs ew since you dont want to gain too much weight. Your going to need a PCT also do you have any nolva on hand or clomid or and AI's in case sides start to be an issue although at a lower dose you really wont see the sides but its always good to have everything you need before starting a cycle. Check out primordial performance products for your PCT since you will be running a mild cycle. Check out the Sustain Alpha and the Psyto Test. Everyone here has pretty muched used it i just got mine in today. Hope this helps any of the vets want to chime in on this.
 
jag, please let me have your attention for a moment please; the most crucial thing for you to do since it sounds as though you've already commited yourself to doing this, is to be conservitive. and please conservitive for a first time juices would be somewhere between 200-400mg a week tops. please do not go over 400mg a week or you will be "in danger" of being suspected. any test you use could easily cause bloat and up you 10lbs before you know what happened. if you use test, you must use a anti-e and aroma inhibitor on cycle(not immediently but about 2-3 weeks in). but please be conservitive with these as well, i have no evidence to support this, but i have noticed what i feel to be a decrease in cardio when using anti-e's and aromatise inhibitors. with bloat will also come a decrease in cardio of course. the extra water weight in your situation would do you no favors. I think eq is what you're after but i also think that it could be risky if not potentially detrimental to your times if you are not very careful with doseages. you must not over do it. if i were in this hypothetical position i would use 200mg eq e/w and 150 test e or cyp. for the first 5 weeks and then evaluate my progress. if I noticed from 3-7lbs gain i'd think i achieved my goal. If not i would bump up about 25-50mg (50 probably being a little high) each compound for the remaining 5-7 weeks.
 
dont worry tempest. although i'm committed to using it, i'm not stupid. before i do anything i'm trying to research it at much as possible. i'm not going to go overboard. i know that body builders go over 400, and i am not a bodybuilder. originally i was planning on doing 200 w/ test. thanks tho. keep the responses coming please. this is good. =) thx everybody in advance
 
=) for sure bro, many people dont know what 400mg a week can do to them so i try and let people know. 400mg test would probably be too much, but with eq being > test dose i think size will be about where we want
 
so... i'm still trying to figure out exactly what i'm going to do. so tempest are you saying that i should do 200wk equipoise w/ 150wk test for 5 weeks? then see where i'm at.

i can also get "the cream". (the stuff barry bonds used) and i probably want to throw that in somewhere too but most likely toward the end of the season when i'm peaking.

but i'm not too sure about what you said about the anti-e. you said that your experience is reduced cardio capacity. that is the last thing i need.
 
YEA, woops, yea, deff. save the cream, I'd figure out how many weeks of cream there are and then I'd use it on the last weeks of cycle if it looked like i needed it at that time. id use like .25mg Femera - letrozole - e/od or preferably .175mg e/d and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - around 5-10mg e/d. also in rare cases Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - does create some progesterone issues if im not mistaken. this might be of particular concern if I started to notice any development of brest tissue. (progesterone is unreversable gynecomastia - I have a small bit of this from my new days) although i dont believe Femera - letrozole - to directly combats progesterone levels, i know it does not antagonize it (contrary to nolva)
 
do i have to take one injection a week of 200 ml, or can i do like 40 ml a day for 5 days. let me know. and if theres anything else i should know too.
 
you mean 40mg a day? right not 40ml a day? want to clarify. I think that would be quite impractical for a sprinter. test e and cyp are long acting esters, as is eq. i think 2x a week, this way one would not be sore in every major muscle group of from making them pincoushions shooting every day. glutes are nice if one is lean. quads are easy and right infront of ones face where its easy to use both hands, glutes are obviously harder, but thats such a huge muscle one cant deny hitting there. its hard to f that one up with such a large muscle group, and always the least painful.
 
i'm just wondering when i take the equipoise, does it have to be a once a week thing? or does it lose effectiveness if i take it in smaller doses.
injections in the glutes dont bother me.
 
How about trying a new workout program first. If you are gonna juice then do so in the off season of your sport for unimpieded strength and size gains
 
tempest2003 said:
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is just as long lasting an ester as e or testosterone cypionate basicly. less hits = less chance of abcess/infection as well.
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I thought that EQ was longer acting then say Test E or Test c correct me if i am wrong i have no problem with that i am here to learn as well.
 
Jag: Whats going on. Good to see another runner here. I am a short sprinter as well but more so in the jumps. I am training for trials and decided to do a cycle. I have already recieved mine and since I didnt like shots, I decided to go with Anavar. Very mild oral and from what I have read and heard, its good for people in our sport. Not alot of weight gained but good strength. My first day will be Monday. Not trying to sway you in any direction. Just good to see another runner. Nice times you have there as well. What division are you in? D1 or 2. I am unattached and training for the long jump .
 
I believe its half life is longer so that might make some sense, but either way its not significant enough to use the two on different scheduals creating the need for more injections.
 
sixxx does have a point though, orals are out of your system quick. if you use eq and test e or cyp you'd better plan on not getting tested for many many months
 
i'm actually at a jc. most of those times i have were in high school. i didnt go straight to four year because i thought i wasnt ready to leave home yet. my first year in jc i blew out a hamstring so i didnt do much last year.
 
tempest2003 said:
I believe its half life is longer so that might make some sense, but either way its not significant enough to use the two on different scheduals creating the need for more injections.
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Thats true one could just load up in the same syringe and shoot all at once right if they were doing a lower dose. Well actually you could shoot about 2cc's in the same shot.
 
and you'll never have any trouble with 2cc's its when people start trying to push the limit of 3 that abcesses and lots of scar tissue start to appear
 
Tempest: Your right. Anavar is in your system for 3 weeks. Now I know JC doesnt test that often but as a coach, I know that if your new results come too fast and your times drop too fast, You will become watched....Even if its a small school. So you would have to monitor that. As far as detection......I chose to go with var. These guys are right. With what you are going to be using, detection could be months before its gone.
 
this is also true, but at the same time i do not have an idea how much of an improvement juice could make for a 400 runner, 100-200 its great, but yes you have a valid point. do you coach JC? if so lol at coach juicing, cool, but i would never suspect my coach to juice
 
Your right. Well then again.....the 400 is closely related to the 100 and 200. Every good 400 runner can run a strong 200 and even a decent 100. But for those who are strictly 100 and 200, I hear its great.

Na, I coach D1. LOL. That is funny, I never thought about it like that. Well there are not too many athletes that coach as well as still compete. I compete on am Olympic developlement level. No one would ever suspect the coach right. LOLOL. Thats right.
 
Here's my advice. Stick with eq for 400mg a week and add 250 test enanthate. run the test for 12 weeks and run the eq for 10. I know everyone is gonna chime in and say eq is a waste if its not used for 14-16 weeks but that is a crock. EQ is a good compound for runners. Helps joints and increases red blood cell count. If you don't want to hold any water then go with test prop instead of enanthate.
 
in my oppinion theres not much difference in bloat between prop cyp and e. bloat on e and cyp can easily be avoided by using an AI from the first day the compounds enter the blood stream
 
tempest2003 said:
in my oppinion theres not much difference in bloat between testosterone propionate testosterone cypionate and e. bloat on e and testosterone cypionate can easily be avoided by using an aromatase inhibitor from the first day the compounds enter the blood stream
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Not only can an AI inhibit estrogen but also gains. For me there is a huge difference in water retention between enanthate and prop.
 
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