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Ramcononer

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Just wanted to get a couple of opinions.
What to you think of EQ? What was it stacked with? How long did you run it?
Pros, Cons, etc...in other word share your EQ experience and how it affected you. :coffee:
 
I ran a gram of test and 400 to 600mgs of eq for a long time and it did me well with little sides. Great for the joints also. More so even than deca.
 
My first steroid cycle was eq for 12 weeks and the last 6 weeks was stacked with winny 50mgs a day.

Eq, isn't necessarily a 'mild' steroid, more like medium in the muscle building dept. If you want absolute hardness, super rope-like veins and awesome cardio, go with winny. But, be forewarned that if you run it with test, test will bloat you and your muscles won't be as hard as they should on eq alone. A lot of old timers who have done more than 5 cycles will say 600+ etc mgs per week, but I saw the same muscle gain, vascularity, everything on 400 as I did on 600. If your bf is low enough, under 8%, run it with masteron for 6 weeks (masteron that is) and eq for 12, with winny included in there. I would also suggest running it with primo because primo doesn't bloat you either. Some people who run eq, tend to get paranoid or sleeplessness on eq. This can be a problem for some. Those who obviously want mass, will choose deca or test over this compound, but a lot of bros love eq for the hardness and vascularity as a base to their cycles instead of test. Of course, mentioning this will obviously start a poll "What is better, EQ or Test as a base.." lol. You never know how you will eventually like it until you try it. IMO, run it with cutting gear like what I mentioned above or even with var or tbol. I ran a cycle of eq and tbol and it was absolutely amazing..looked great on it.
 
I would have to say EQ is one of my favorite aas,,,its great for just about anything,,,I am running it now with 100mg prop eod and 75mg Methadriol Deprop eod and as usual the EQ is great...Im running 600mg wk for 16 weeks...I would say run no lower than 400mg wk for no less than 12 weeks...You can compare EQ to deca in many ways but much better for putting on mass IMO, and much fewer sides like deca dick, atleast for me,,,I never get any sides from EQ and have ran it at a gram before...I would say anything over 600mg is a waste though...I didnt notice any difference between 600mg to 1gram.....
 
i have run several cycles of eq/deca and loved them. i notice that i do get red skin from the high blood cell count from eq, so i run it at lower doses around 400mg/week, and still i get red. i like eq though because i dont break out or get any other sides that i would usually get with a test cycle.
 
the red skin could be high blood pressure too, I get the red skin on my face from only dbol cycles.....
 
My favorite cycle is test and eq-- I too find 400mg of eq to work for me.. alng with what everybody already said, it helps with my appitite big time.. which is one of my big problems...
 
I am running cyp/eq/var right now...I start the var next week...loving it so far. Like said earlier, slow, steady gains.
 
I just ran a eq 400mg 500mg enan cycle for 15 weeks. Hated it. Got bigger off lesds test by itself. I lost pounds. Gain a little strength and size, and all kinds of new viens. Didn't really increase my app much. I wouldn't ever use eq again. It did make me really hard but who cares. My next cycle will be sust 250 mon wed fri for 12 weeks and d-bol to stat it. I think my bf was a little high when I started to.
 
I just finished a 30 weeker running Eq with Primo, Winny, Test and NPP at the tail end. By far the best lean bulker I've ever tried. I gained 25 pounds of LBM and turned into a veiny freak. Im 6 weeks into PCT and have not lost a pound. Got my blood work back and Im perfect. When considering risk vs. reward Eq is on the top of my list. Primo is on up there too.
 
im currently on wk 5 of tbol , prop, eq and will be adding tren in about two weeks . will be running cycle for about 16 wks. haveing great results
 
instant.muscle said:
nice i'm bout to run
1-14 Test 400mg
1-12 EQ 750mg
1-12 Deca 450mg

think its too short?

I would lower the Eq to 600 and extend it to 16 weeks. Watch out running Deca for 12, that would be gyno city for me. Good luck
 
INNOCENT said:
im currently on wk 5 of tbol , prop, eq and will be adding tren in about two weeks . will be running cycle for about 16 wks. haveing great results

What up bro. Im from MS too. Small cyber world ain't it. Ever ran Tren before? That shit was straight poison in my veins. The results were good but the sides killed me. 16 weeks of prop? Damn pin cusion. Better have some HCG on hand. Your balls are gonna be marbles. Good luck!
 
How does this sound for a second cycle.
500mgs wk Test E 1-12
600mgs wk EQ 1-12

Can this be taken in one shot or should two pokes a week do the trick?
will libido be good to go..I havent heard of EQ dick?? anybody.
 
Im currently in week 5 of a planned 20+ week 800EQ/500Test cycle and will begin 7 weeks of 50mgs winny ed on Monday. I cant wait to get the winny goin and see how that hardens me up.

This is my first run on EQ and Winny so im anxious to see how everything turns out.

So far I dont feel the joint relief like I did when running Deca, but its still a bit early. :chomp: :chomp: :chomp:
 
littleb said:
My favorite cycle is test and eq-- I too find 400mg of eq to work for me.. alng with what everybody already said, it helps with my appitite big time.. which is one of my big problems...

Same here. I'm never hungry.
 
Speaking of EQ I'm just about to start some on my cycle. The bottle is 300mg per ML and is 20ML total in the bottle. How would you suggest I run it? 2 shots per week which would be 600mg total for 8 to 10 weeks? I'm running test prop along with it as well.
 
just do one shot a week if you can. i have 500/ml eq so i do 1.6cc every monday thats it. the appetite wasn't a factor at 400mg for those of you wondering, 600mg it kicked in, now i'm at 800 and lord i get hunger pangs every damn hour, i'll eat a lot, then smoke some chron i'm hungry again real fast
 
I have been tossing around the idea of a 16-20 week eq only cycle at 500 for endurance purposes and some strength.....but the libido issues is what has always shyed me away. I have run it before with test and was good to go but never did get the hunger pains lots of guys talk about. Maybe I should research the eq only thing again. ANyone with more feedback on this, post of bros. Good thread!
 
have been tossing around the idea of a 16-20 week eq only cycle at 500 for endurance purposes and some strength.....but the libido issues is what has always shyed me away. I have run it before with test and was good to go but never did get the hunger pains lots of guys talk about. Maybe I should research the eq only thing again. ANyone with more feedback on this, post of bros. Good thread!

Go for it bro. Im on eq at 400mg a week and test at 400mg a week And the eq is amazing with endurance. Im a college athlete and the endurance is great!
 
bca21 said:
Go for it bro. Im on eq at 400mg a week and test at 400mg a week And the eq is amazing with endurance. Im a college athlete and the endurance is great!

uumm....I was referring to an eq ONLY cycle. I've done a few test and eq cycles and they are a stabdard for me. I was thinking JUST eq though.
 
And did you here me

And the eq is amazing with endurance. Im a college athlete and the endurance is great!

Ive ran test before and no what its like. Wheni run eq my endurace is great, just trying to help. take it how you want
 
Ramcononer said:
How does this sound for a second cycle.
500mgs wk Test E 1-12
600mgs wk EQ 1-12

Can this be taken in one shot or should two pokes a week do the trick?
will libido be good to go..I havent heard of EQ dick?? anybody.



BUMP
 
hey...i too loved this thread because this is the second ccyle using eq....i started to get veiny as hell but i had to get off immediately for personal reason...

what about grouchyness on eq....I have a grouchy disposition anyway so i'm trying to avaoid mood inhibitors if you guys know what i mean...

How about boldonone cypionate which i have right now....anyone use that instead of the undec...???
 
I just started week 6 on my EQ/Test cycle, and just began my 7 week winny run also.

I noticed about a week and a half ago that I have a big vein in my lower abs. Well, chalk up another one cause while I was gone this weekend I noticed a big one coming up on the otherside of my lower abs. $$$ :chomp: :chomp: :chomp:

I cant wait to see how this winny hardens me up. It will be my first run on winny also. :qt:
 
bruce410 said:
just do one shot a week if you can. i have 500/ml eq so i do 1.6cc every monday thats it. the appetite wasn't a factor at 400mg for those of you wondering, 600mg it kicked in, now i'm at 800 and lord i get hunger pangs every damn hour, i'll eat a lot, then smoke some chron i'm hungry again real fast

500/ml eq? GTP?
 
Big O said:
hey...i too loved this thread because this is the second ccyle using eq....i started to get veiny as hell but i had to get off immediately for personal reason...

what about grouchyness on eq....I have a grouchy disposition anyway so i'm trying to avaoid mood inhibitors if you guys know what i mean...

How about boldonone cypionate which i have right now....anyone use that instead of the undec...???

Maybe try Oxycalm from the Anafit store. It works.
 
shit bro try some Pot to lighten you up .....JK......
I hear nothing but good things about anafit store products..

One more question..how do I quote some one?? like how abomb above me put Big O's Comment in a grey box????? Maybe a dumb question But I can't figure it out.
 
Ramcononer said:
shit bro try some Pot to lighten you up .....JK......
I hear nothing but good things about anafit store products..

One more question..how do I quote some one?? like how abomb above me put Big O's Comment in a grey box????? Maybe a dumb question But I can't figure it out.


you just hit the reply button in the message your quoting on the bottom right---------------------------------------->
 
Really nice info, ive been trying to design my first "mild" AAS cycle.

Seem to have come down to

EQ/TEST 12 Weeks.
or
Test/Var

But it looks like i want to go with EQ, just from it being an injection alone.

This would be my first real deal AAS. Ive played with PH, before, with good results. But still never gonna be like the real deal.

I was thinking of running
test @ 250mg/week weeks 1-12
eq @ 500mg/week weeks 1-12

I know, i wouldnt really "feel" them untill about week 6-7, this is a long time, but hey its worth the wait. I would throw in some t-bol/d-bol except its my first cycle and i dont want to deal with all those compounds ya know. Im going for PERMANENT gains, i dont want to blow up and loose quick.

This thread seemed to really get my mind set on the EQ.

So do you think the above dosages are significant? Could i even lower the EQ to 400mg/week?
 
mm107 said:
I was thinking of running
test @ 250mg/week weeks 1-12
eq @ 500mg/week weeks 1-12


This thread seemed to really get my mind set on the EQ.

So do you think the above dosages are significant? Could i even lower the EQ to 400mg/week?

I think those dosages are fine, but thats just based upon what previous recommendations I have read from more experienced people around here. The only concern I have is in regards to the duration. Everyone says that you really should push EQ out around 15 weeks if not more. Im have my current cycle planned to be about 25 weeks to tell you the truth.

Most people recommend 600EQ, so I would think that 500 would get you some decent results as well. If you want to try 400, i suggest giving it a run and see where you stand around week 8-9, but really with you doing 12 weeks total, theres not much time to tweak your dosages to get the desired affects you might be looking for during the remainder of your cycle.

Its just hard to say how one person will respond to X amount of X compound when everyones body respond differently. Couple that with the fact that I am not an experienced EQ user, and I cant give you any real solid advice. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in and point you in a better direction. :coffee:
 
instant.muscle said:
nice i'm bout to run
1-14 Test 400mg
1-12 EQ 750mg
1-12 Deca 450mg

think its too short?

What are looking for out of that? I'm not sure you need the Deca if that's a cutter...nice bulker though! I've sooooo been wanting to run a 20-30 weeker based around EQ for such a long time, but my damn Renal doc won't let me LOL
 
immortalis said:
I think those dosages are fine, but thats just based upon what previous recommendations I have read from more experienced people around here. The only concern I have is in regards to the duration. Everyone says that you really should push EQ out around 15 weeks if not more. Im have my current cycle planned to be about 25 weeks to tell you the truth.

Most people recommend 600EQ, so I would think that 500 would get you some decent results as well. If you want to try 400, i suggest giving it a run and see where you stand around week 8-9, but really with you doing 12 weeks total, theres not much time to tweak your dosages to get the desired affects you might be looking for during the remainder of your cycle.

Its just hard to say how one person will respond to X amount of X compound when everyones body respond differently. Couple that with the fact that I am not an experienced EQ user, and I cant give you any real solid advice. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in and point you in a better direction. :coffee:

damn, nice answer bro,

yeap, i just lookin for the lowest dosages recommended, i can bump up dosages, but with a compound like EQ ur right, i would really feel it untill week 6-7, so if it was too low, it might take a while to even feel it after being bumped up.

Everywhere i have read the dosages were 400-600, so ill go right in the middle =].

HMM 15 weeks huh?

I was just recommended by ryker, to drop the test weeks after week 12, and maybe run EQ for 2 more weeks alone, good idea/bad idea? Shutdown problems? etc
 
mm107 said:
I was just recommended by ryker, to drop the test weeks after week 12, and maybe run EQ for 2 more weeks alone, good idea/bad idea? Shutdown problems? etc

Not sure of the reason for dropping the Test short, but def suggest running the EQ the 14wks....

Some people like to throw in a fast oral to get to PCT if gains are huge.

1-14 injects
13-16 oral (winny or something)
16-PCT

something like that...just a thought to help with PCT timing if you are worried about losing at the end
 
you can keep running the test the entire time just fine, some guys just don'tlike to run it that long is all. I would run them both the entire time since the doses are on the lower side.
 
i'm loving eq right now just to update. what a great steroid. i am only taking with proviron and libido is unreal and pumps and recovery are excellent. the recovery from workouts is not as anabolic as deca where i didn't even know i worked out the day before, but it is excellent and i can train much harder and longer. pumps are awesome and the vascularity, though mostly due being lean, is a factor as well as the veins are growing and coming down the arm farther. i really hope pct is easier as this steroid is very mild with regard to sides. i think it varies from person to person. my boy just doesn't like eq it does nothing for him even at a gram. me i think its great and until i run primo it will be the staple of my cycles.
 
DiamondCutCows said:
Not sure of the reason for dropping the Test short, but def suggest running the EQ the 14wks....

Some people like to throw in a fast oral to get to PCT if gains are huge.

1-14 injects
13-16 oral (winny or something)
16-PCT

something like that...just a thought to help with PCT timing if you are worried about losing at the end

Yea, loosing is my biggest fear, thats why im stickin with a nice lean mass builder.

Fast oral in PCT? Such as Clen?

I gotta design a nice flawless attack =]

ryker, one good bro on here man!

i was skeptical about running test for so long, wouldnt it shut me down, or stop me from producing it naturally? just wondering.

I would love to run some winny, in fact i WAS thinkin it, just was worried about all the compounds...

Im thinkin nolva for PCT w/ some HCG. AIFM for bloat while on too.
 
mm107 said:
Yea, loosing is my biggest fear, thats why im stickin with a nice lean mass builder.

Fast oral in PCT? Such as Clen?

i was skeptical about running test for so long, wouldnt it shut me down, or stop me from producing it naturally? just wondering.

I would love to run some winny, in fact i WAS thinkin it, just was worried about all the compounds...

Im thinkin nolva for PCT w/ some HCG. AIFM for bloat while on too.

What's your cycle history bro? I don't want to tell you to run 3 compounds if this is your first run...low dose winny would be nice to dry you out leading up to PCT though...by "fast" I mean a compound that you KNOW when it's out of you and the proper time to start PCT...eliminates the guesswork that comes with Enanthate and similar esthers.

Believe it or not, I'm a clomid/nolva guy. I don't think many like clomid now, but it's cool with me...you seem to know your PCT/AI shit though
 
DiamondCutCows said:
What's your cycle history bro? I don't want to tell you to run 3 compounds if this is your first run...low dose winny would be nice to dry you out leading up to PCT though...by "fast" I mean a compound that you KNOW when it's out of you and the proper time to start PCT...eliminates the guesswork that comes with Enanthate and similar esthers.

Believe it or not, I'm a clomid/nolva guy. I don't think many like clomid now, but it's cool with me...you seem to know your PCT/AI shit though

Yea, this would be my First REAL AAS cycle. I have cycled Superdrol & Pheraplex before. I had my pehera up to 40mg day, had great results, grew to about 185lbs. After PCT, was 180, prob gained about 15 pounds LEAN MASS. Wich i love. Only LEAN MASS Wanted.

now i understand what you meant by "fast",

I have played with PH's in the past, had my bloodwork before/after and im in perfect ranges after as well.

I mean, if its a "dumb" idea to run 3 compounds for first real AAS run, then i wont, but if it shouldnt be a big deal, i can run winny, would have access to it.

I know PCT/AI, but still "learning" i never ventured into the "dark side" lol, so i want to do it the right way, and keep my gains, since i wont run another cycle untill the yr after.
 
bruce410 said:
i'm loving eq right now just to update. what a great steroid. i am only taking with proviron and libido is unreal and pumps and recovery are excellent. the recovery from workouts is not as anabolic as deca where i didn't even know i worked out the day before, but it is excellent and i can train much harder and longer. pumps are awesome and the vascularity, though mostly due being lean, is a factor as well as the veins are growing and coming down the arm farther. i really hope pct is easier as this steroid is very mild with regard to sides. i think it varies from person to person. my boy just doesn't like eq it does nothing for him even at a gram. me i think its great and until i run primo it will be the staple of my cycles.


PCT for EQ was damn breeze for me. I've been off 6 weeks and I swear I feel like Im still on. Im on a 3 month bridge though with gh,slin,& test. EQ is known to stick around for a while.

Just be warned the EQ is a very subtle anabolic. It takes at least 6-7 weeks before you notice anything at all. At week 12 is when I felt it peak. Week 20 is when it really got noticeable. I started at 600>800>1000>800>600.
 
mm107 said:
Yea, this would be my First REAL AAS cycle. I have cycled Superdrol & Pheraplex before. I had my pehera up to 40mg day, had great results, grew to about 185lbs. After PCT, was 180, prob gained about 15 pounds LEAN MASS. Wich i love. Only LEAN MASS Wanted.

now i understand what you meant by "fast",

I have played with PH's in the past, had my bloodwork before/after and im in perfect ranges after as well.

I mean, if its a "dumb" idea to run 3 compounds for first real AAS run, then i wont, but if it shouldnt be a big deal, i can run winny, would have access to it.

I know PCT/AI, but still "learning" i never ventured into the "dark side" lol, so i want to do it the right way, and keep my gains, since i wont run another cycle untill the yr after.

running multiple compounds is not dumb, but being as this is your first run, my opinion is that you want to see how your body will react too just 1 or at the most 2 compounds. That way if you do have some sort of oddball reaction, the less compounds you are running, the easier it is to correct the problem. It's just baby steps of sorts. I really thinkl that you will be very happy with just test e and eq. Some guys go high doses, but I think if you train hard and right, you can get some great results from average or what some think are lower doses. Different strokes for different folks is all.

I have never run winny, my joints hurt enough as it is, I don't need any help in that department. lol
 
rykertest said:
running multiple compounds is not dumb, but being as this is your first run, my opinion is that you want to see how your body will react too just 1 or at the most 2 compounds. That way if you do have some sort of oddball reaction, the less compounds you are running, the easier it is to correct the problem. It's just baby steps of sorts. I really thinkl that you will be very happy with just test e and eq. Some guys go high doses, but I think if you train hard and right, you can get some great results from average or what some think are lower doses. Different strokes for different folks is all.

I have never run winny, my joints hurt enough as it is, I don't need any help in that department. lol

Damn some really nice advice on this thread...

Yeap, im thinkin to stick with just 2 compounds for right now..

So Finalized =]

TEST @ 250mg/week 1-15
EQ @ 400-500/week 1-15- (Depending on the dosages available, if 250mg then its gonna be 500, but if its 200mg, i stick with 400mg/week)

Diamond, about PCT for EQ, should i start after last inject? I also will have HCG on hand to prevent shutdown completely.

also what type of test would stack best with EQ, i know its a preference, but im tryin to stick 2 times a week.

sorry for the thread jack, just too much good info here not to jump in
 
mm107 said:
Damn some really nice advice on this thread...

Yeap, im thinkin to stick with just 2 compounds for right now..

So Finalized =]

TEST @ 250mg/week 1-15
EQ @ 400-500/week 1-15- (Depending on the dosages available, if 250mg then its gonna be 500, but if its 200mg, i stick with 400mg/week)

Diamond, about PCT for EQ, should i start after last inject? I also will have HCG on hand to prevent shutdown completely.

also what type of test would stack best with EQ, i know its a preference, but im tryin to stick 2 times a week.

sorry for the thread jack, just too much good info here not to jump in

With it being your first run I TOTALLY agree with Ryker FYI.

For PCT 3 weeks after last EQ shot (EQ is a "slow" AAS) is what I'd go with. Enan or Cyp is fine to run with the EQ. In an ideal clean bulk you'd prob run Prop, but that means MANY injects. Not needed here.
 
a bomb said:
PCT for EQ was damn breeze for me. I've been off 6 weeks and I swear I feel like Im still on. Im on a 3 month bridge though with gh,slin,& test. EQ is known to stick around for a while.

Just be warned the EQ is a very subtle anabolic. It takes at least 6-7 weeks before you notice anything at all. At week 12 is when I felt it peak. Week 20 is when it really got noticeable. I started at 600>800>1000>800>600.
yea i started april 26th, so its been a about 9 weeks. for sure you are correct about it kickin in late. i kicked off with tbol at 60mg ed, pumps and all were great, then i came off the tbol and for 2 weeks i felt like i was off again, got sore from workouts. week 6 i started getting pumps again and recovering quickly from workouts. i think about a week ago is when it really started to get noticable with regard to pumps veins and what not. i started at 400mg ew. see i quit aas for a while because of a horrible crash from deca test. after that i really wanted to stay moderate with doses lol. 400mg did nada so i went up to 600. that was better but amped it to 800 just to see and its a world of difference. good to hear pct will be easy. btw how long did you run it for and was your bp greatly effected
 
Ran Eq for 30 weeks. BP was perfect the whole time. Blood tests came back positive.

In that 30 weeker I stacked all kind of goodies with the Eq. Test of course, Primo, Winny, IGF, & NPP. I was fine until about the last 6 weeks. The NPP started giving me a little gyno. The only AI I had was Adex and Nolva, weirdly they knocked it out. I heard that Bromo was the only thing that would help Deca induced gyno.

Im like you - I hate deca and won't ever touch it again. But let me tell you, NPP is a whole nother fucking ballgame bro. I don't know why, they are both Nandrolone, maybe the phenylprop strand makes a difference. NPP fucking rocks! PCT is a little more involved but it's worth it.
 
mm107 said:
Damn some really nice advice on this thread...

Yeap, im thinkin to stick with just 2 compounds for right now..

So Finalized =]

TEST @ 250mg/week 1-15
EQ @ 400-500/week 1-15- (Depending on the dosages available, if 250mg then its gonna be 500, but if its 200mg, i stick with 400mg/week)

Diamond, about PCT for EQ, should i start after last inject? I also will have HCG on hand to prevent shutdown completely.

also what type of test would stack best with EQ, i know its a preference, but im tryin to stick 2 times a week.

sorry for the thread jack, just too much good info here not to jump in



Goddamn thread jacker!!!!!lol JK
I learned alot from this thread myself..keep it goin..I hope this quote thing works.. :)
 
mm107 said:
Damn some really nice advice on this thread...

Yeap, im thinkin to stick with just 2 compounds for right now..

So Finalized =]

TEST @ 250mg/week 1-15
EQ @ 400-500/week 1-15- (Depending on the dosages available, if 250mg then its gonna be 500, but if its 200mg, i stick with 400mg/week)

Diamond, about PCT for EQ, should i start after last inject? I also will have HCG on hand to prevent shutdown completely.

also what type of test would stack best with EQ, i know its a preference, but im tryin to stick 2 times a week.

sorry for the thread jack, just too much good info here not to jump in


I would use test e. For some reason test c makes me feel......different. Hard to explain but test e just felt better for me. But like I always say, we all react differently. Waiting 2-3 weeks after your last stick is the average time to start pct and with HCG and nolva on hand, you should be good to go bro. I'm glad to see you running it for 15 weeks. It will start to really show up about week 8, and then you have another 8 weeks of EQ fun! I think 250 test e and 400 eq would be great. Will you be doing much cardio or is this just a weights only/mostly cycle? With your increased RBC count while on EQ, cardio for me was noticable increased and I had much better endurance.
 
rykertest said:
I would use test e. For some reason test c makes me feel......different. Hard to explain but test e just felt better for me. But like I always say, we all react differently. Waiting 2-3 weeks after your last stick is the average time to start pct and with HCG and nolva on hand, you should be good to go bro. I'm glad to see you running it for 15 weeks. It will start to really show up about week 8, and then you have another 8 weeks of EQ fun! I think 250 test e and 400 eq would be great. Will you be doing much cardio or is this just a weights only/mostly cycle? With your increased RBC count while on EQ, cardio for me was noticable increased and I had much better endurance.

Yea man!!!! I figure since its my first time, why not do it right ya know!!!

Will have nolva and HCG on hand. Also, Will go get AIFM for bloat.

I will have to have pacience to wait till week 8, but hey, wtf would i be doing anyway besides training right =].

250 Test E/400 EQ / Week seems to be it. =]

Im going to be running a 5x5 plan most likey. So i will have 2 days of minimum cardio. I love cardio, i like to box, so the increased RBC will do wonders i hope.

Anyone who has ran this cycle, what was your PCT protocol like? Thanks.
 
I'm on week two of 400mg of Bold and 700mg of Sust350 (yes 350, got it from TJ). Haven't seen gains yet but my appetite is growing. I might add D-bol within the next week or two. Any thoughts. This is my first cycle.
 
Ive never and will probably never run dbol...but ive heard that a dbol/test/eq stack is good. Right now im running test/eq/var...just started the var a few days ago...Im starting to feel the EQ now alot too. I would just stick with eq and test for my first cycle...keep it simple...see how you react to it.
 
Eq is one of my 3 favorite AAS (along w/ tren and test). I ran it last fall for a bulker @400 mgs a week along with 750 mgs sust and dbol and it worked excellent. I'll be starting another bulker in September w/ 750 mgs test e and 600 mgs eq for 16 wks. I would run dbol with it again but I'll be on accutane and don't want to tax the hell out of my liver.
I prefer eq to deca as I am gyno prone and get bloated easy...eq doesn't seem to antagonize this. Eq is a great all around AAS that can be used for bulking and cutting, gotta love it. Blows deca out of the water IMO.
 
ryan04 said:
Eq is one of my 3 favorite AAS (along w/ tren and test). I ran it last fall for a bulker @400 mgs a week along with 750 mgs sust and dbol and it worked excellent. I'll be starting another bulker in September w/ 750 mgs test e and 600 mgs eq for 16 wks. I would run dbol with it again but I'll be on accutane and don't want to tax the hell out of my liver.
I prefer eq to deca as I am gyno prone and get bloated easy...eq doesn't seem to antagonize this. Eq is a great all around AAS that can be used for bulking and cutting, gotta love it. Blows deca out of the water IMO.
could not agree more, either love it or hate it though, for some deca blows it out of the water not me though.
 
The only 2 cycles I see myself running anymore are

bulking: test/eq/dbol
cutting: test/tren

IMO anything else is unnecessary. Any goal you want to achieve can be easily done with these 4 compounds. Yes they all can have some nasty sides (with the exception of eq) but they're also cheap, readily available and potent as hell. I personally see no need to run anything else...although I have to admit I would like to try tbol.
 
What dosages do you typically run and for how long with the test/eq/dbol cycle??
I'll be bulking this winter with those same compounds..this will be my first time using eq and dbol.
 
iMax said:
I'm on week two of 400mg of Bold and 700mg of Sust350 (yes 350, got it from TJ). Haven't seen gains yet but my appetite is growing. I might add D-bol within the next week or two. Any thoughts. This is my first cycle.

My only real thought is why are you using over a G of AAS for your first run? You better be a really big boy running that kinda shit for a first run...what kind of doses do you see yourself running for say your 3rd bulker?

700mg Test would be a FL for most newbies...I dont think you need an oral added to this.
 
DiamondCutCows said:
My only real thought is why are you using over a G of AAS for your first run? You better be a really big boy running that kinda shit for a first run...what kind of doses do you see yourself running for say your 3rd bulker?

700mg Test would be a FL for most newbies...I dont think you need an oral added to this.

yea, im with diamond on that one,

this is my first run...

and im running low dosages,

NOTHING CAN HELP A BAD DIET =]
 
DiamondCutCows said:
My only real thought is why are you using over a G of AAS for your first run? You better be a really big boy running that kinda shit for a first run...what kind of doses do you see yourself running for say your 3rd bulker?

700mg Test would be a FL for most newbies...I dont think you need an oral added to this.


I have no idea what I will run for my next cycle. This is my first cycle so I'm here to learn. I'm totally natural at 5' 8" 190lbs. I've been lifting pretty hard since highschool and I'm in my early 30's now. I have a good foundation to work with. If you think my 2 compounds are pushing it then I will hold off on the dbol.
 
iMax said:
I have no idea what I will run for my next cycle. This is my first cycle so I'm here to learn. I'm totally natural at 5' 8" 190lbs. I've been lifting pretty hard since highschool and I'm in my early 30's now. I have a good foundation to work with. If you think my 2 compounds are pushing it then I will hold off on the dbol.

Bro, 2 compounds is alot already(i will be running 2)

BUT

with low dosages still

TEST E 250mg/week
EQ 400mg/week
15 weeks.

You got to realize, the bigger u get while ON, the harder it will be to keep it ON. I feel low dosage cycles will help retaining mass honestly.
 
excidium has a sick build he looks awesome, i remember he ran 800mg primo and 75mg of var though and hated it, so he hopped right to prop and winny. he hasn't been around lately. good guy, awesome physique
 
no dude it has nothing to do with the aas you gotta understand that. its all diet. he shared his diet its one of the cleanest ive ever seen.
 
instant.muscle said:
well with proper PCT i kneww a bro who put on 27 pounds on a cycle and kept it all off of sust and drol his name was (exidium)

Excidium is a genetic freak on a freaky diet LOL...homeboy stays pretty ripped on a drol cycle that he gained 30lbs on.

He around these parts still?

IM, you have to assume that "proper" PCT can't be assumed for someone's first cycle. Not saying that he won't do it right, but he doesnt yet know ic Nolva works wonders for him or if he's more of a Clomid guy...
 
yeah his diet was like 5 steaks a day, he posts once in awhile,
since i never posted pics cuz my cam broke me n exidium have a very similar build, except he's prolly bigger now him, but like him i keep my 6 pack even when bulking
 
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