eq/winny or eq/anavar?

[DaMan]

Just curious why winny would stack better (it IS more popular)... cash aside, which of the following would y'all chose for a cycle:

a) eq @ 4-600/wk, var @ 40/ed

b) eq @ 4-600/wk, winny @ 50/ed

c) eq @ 4-600/wk, var @ 40/ed for 1st half, winny @ 50ed for 2nd half of cycle

d) all three at the same time the whole cycle?

Damn, should have made that a poll... just wondering if there's any reason for winny at all (ASIDE FROM THE PRICE) when u could just do var... do var effects decrease? winny sux for joints & hair, so...?

 

[Bulldog_10]

I'd go with option C...both. As long as the dosages don't get too high, it's ok. Just have liver supps on hand. Alot of people take 100mg/ED of winny, so 90mg/ED shouldn't be too hard on the liver, IMO.

 

[DaMan]

why c instead of just running the var all along? (remember, money is not the deciding factor)

 

[Bulldog_10]

One question...how long will this cycle be?

 

[DaMan]

10wks, give or take. considering adding test cyp to it, but let's ignore that for the equation right now. (if i add cyp i'd also do daily arimidex, so i dunno if winny as gyno prevention is that relevant). mostly my joints and hair i care about.

 

[Bulldog_10]

For a 10 week cycle I would split them up. Anavar for the first half and winny for the second. Either that or take one of them for the last 7 or 8 weeks. 10 weeks is too long to run one 17-aa the whole way, IMO.

As far as the arimidex, check out that other thread about arimidex. The one about .5mg being enough.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I would run them all together....Eq, Winny and Anavar...But I would do the Winny for the last 8 weeks of your cycle....Make sure you use ALA and Milk thistle for your liver and get blood work done to make sure you are in good health and you should be fine

M18

 

[DaMan]

Thx for feedback... there's no way in hell I'd run winny that long cuz i think i'm prone to hairloss, but I'd prolly do it for like the last 4 weeks in addition to the var for the entire 10 weeks then...

One q - what kind of blood work should I have done? Does the AF saliva endo screen qualify? (emailed Ulter a while ago but no ans yet)... I think it checks liver values etc...

Thx.

 

[3Vandoo]

cycle A plus winny

 

[DaMan]

Uhm, so would that be c or d then?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I would get a full blood work up done..liver, cholesterol, cardicac ect..... just to make sure you are in good health. I thought I was fine after my first cycle but when I got my blood work back I found out my AST and Gamma GT were almost double of what they should be. I was not using milk thistle while on D-Bol so that is what caused it. It is fine now through thanks to ALA and milk thislte at some higher doses

M18

 

[DaMan]

So what EXACTLY do I ask for when I go to the doc? (Do I go to the doc for that? Or straight to hospital? Where's it cheapest?)

Thx dude!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

So what EXACTLY do I ask for when I go to the doc? (Do I go to the doc for that? Or straight to hospital? Where's it cheapest?)

Thx dude!

I went to my doc and asked to get full blood work done and he gave me a little slip and I went down stairs to an office, got the blood taken and got my results in about a week

M18

 

[DaMan]

Anyone have any other opinions on whether to stack eq w/ winny, w/ anavar, or both?

Thx everyone!

 

[Yellowbomber]

EQ 50mg ed
Winny 50mg ed

 

[M56M]

EQ 600mg/week 10weeks
anavar 40mg/ED 5weeks
Winny 50mg/ED 5 weeks

-thats what i would do. With a shit load of H2O, and the right liver supps. you should be fine. Good Luck. (actaully thats my december cycle except i will be adding fina and test )

M56M

 

[DaMan]

Goddammit, can't you people just all get along? Half say all at once, the other say 50/50.

So an obvious question - why not just run the anavar the whole way? Is there a benefit to even doing winny during those last 5 wx instead of var? (cost aside)

Thx again!

 

[DaMan]

Hmm... this all got me thinking... cash aside, what's the point of winny anyway?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Hmm... this all got me thinking... cash aside, what's the point of winny anyway?

From what I understand Winny gets you hard and vascular with good strength gains and it is also good for blocking progesterone induced gyno. I personally would not use it as Fina does the same thing (except block progesterone gyno) and it's half the cost

M18

 

[DaMan]

From what I understand Winny gets you hard and vascular with good strength gains and it is also good for

So does anavar...

blocking progesterone induced gyno. I personally

Good pt... though that shouldn't be an issue w/ eq & test if I take arimidex, so I'm actually reconsidering and thinking of dropping the winny or doing it reallly low dose cuz of the hairloss and joint pain thing which don't seem worth it...

Your expert opinion? (would adding winny to the stack give me enough of a difference to put up with the pain & hairloss?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

So does anavar...



Good pt... though that shouldn't be an issue w/ eq & test if I take arimidex, so I'm actually reconsidering and thinking of dropping the winny or doing it reallly low dose cuz of the hairloss and joint pain thing which don't seem worth it...

Your expert opinion? (would adding winny to the stack give me enough of a difference to put up with the pain & hairloss?

I thought you meant what is Winny worth it overall generally speaking, For your cycle no I don't think it is worth it...Anavar and Eq will do great IMO

M18

 

[DaMan]

Thx dude, you solved my prob.

What I'll prolly do is EQ @ 500 10wk, Var @ 40 10wk, and will throw in a tiny bit of winny like the last 3 weeks (wk 10-wk 12) before I start clomid and to keep gains if I also use test... also good to see what effect winny has on me anyway...

Sound smart? (Is 12wks on a 17aa too much for a 2nd-time cycler? Will be taking lotsa tyler, milk thist, c-d-glut)

Thx.

 

[DaMan]

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[momwarndu]

hOWZ about doing the Anavar at the back end of the cycle and taper down to 20 mg Ed and use it to bridge while you use colmid to get the Nuts workin again and to keep gains?

Just a thought!