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EQ/WIN Cycle: First Cycle

safety4lyfe

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Week 1-12 400mg/wk Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
Week 5-12 50mg ED Win

184 lbs, 6'0, 12% bf

Im a football player looking for some speed and strength, plus lean mass gains etc.
First cycle, wondering if i should include some clomid for PCT...use some fish oil and milk thistle to battle the sides of winnie
Any input?
 
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it seems youv done a bit of study which is good but i think you may need to do a bit more bro.. eq imo should be run for 14-16 weeks.. first cycle should consist of test only imo with a clean diet and solid training and rest..
 
safety4lyfe said:
Week 1-12 400mg/wk Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
Week 5-12 50mg ED Win

184 lbs, 6'0, 12% bf

Im a football player looking for some speed and strength, plus lean mass gains etc.
First cycle, wondering if i should include some clomid for PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ...use some fish oil and milk thistle to battle the sides of winnie
Any input?

IMO 600 mg/wk of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is much more sufficient and run for atleast 14 weeks. I started off with 500 mg/wk and after 4 weeks moved to around 750-900mg and major difference in appetite, vascularity, and such. Definite difference. EQ is one of my favorite compounds. I've run for 10 weeks at your doesage before, did not reap the FULL BENEFITS I should have from it.

Oh, like xrist said......Test only is a better option. Test and EQ=great option. Add some winny, major body transformation brother
 
In my personal experience with EQ, I would get pumps in my calves that would make it impossible to run more that 1 1/2 miles. That could be an issue during football practice.

After 3 weeks on-cycle your body stops producing testosterone so any cycle without test has a high probability of wiping out your sex drive.

I agree with xrsist that test is the place to start. You can still throw in the winny at the end if you like.
 
Jumpmaster82 said:
this being your cycle get rid of the Winstrol - stanozolol and use 600 mg test en or testosterone cypionate.


600mg a week of test for a first cycle? umm please explain why one would need that much.. and dont pull the "you only get one first cycle crap"..
 
xrsist said:
it seems youv done a bit of study which is good but i think you may need to do a bit more bro.. Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - imo should be run for 14-16 weeks.. first cycle should consist of test only imo with a clean diet and solid training and rest..


+2 great advice.

imo you should NEVER RUN equipoise without test anyway.
and your first cycle is like testing the waters in the first place and should consist of one compound ran at a low dose.like 250mgs of testosterone enanthate.you don't even know if you're prone to gear induced gyno,hair loss or acne,yet.

make sure you have your training and diet dialed in,to achieve optimum results.best of luck to you :)
 
xrsist said:
it seems youv done a bit of study which is good but i think you may need to do a bit more bro.. Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - imo should be run for 14-16 weeks.. first cycle should consist of test only imo with a clean diet and solid training and rest..
+3 on this one.
 
xrsist said:
it seems youv done a bit of study which is good but i think you may need to do a bit more bro.. Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - imo should be run for 14-16 weeks.. first cycle should consist of test only imo with a clean diet and solid training and rest..

+4 on this one
 
Thanks for the input gents.

I would perfer to keep the winstrol in because i read somewhere that it helps build up fast twitch muscles...maybe totally bogus. Also i wouldnt input the winnie into the cycle half way through so i would know if its winnie or test.

SO it seems the general consensus is run Test Eth 1-12 400mg/wk (gradually build up)
instead of E Q....what would my P CT look like
 
well obviously! i phrased that bad...
i do a lot of sprints and ladder excerises alongside with power lifts
and i heard winnie promotes greater build for fast twitch...any truth?
 
safety4lyfe said:
Thanks for the input gents.

I would perfer to keep the winstrol in because i read somewhere that it helps build up fast twitch muscles...maybe totally bogus. Also i wouldnt input the winnie into the cycle half way through so i would know if its winnie or test.

SO it seems the general consensus is run Test Eth 1-12 400mg/wk (gradually build up)
instead of E Q....what would my P CT look like

10 weeks is more than enough for a first cycle bro, test enath or cyp at 250-300mg a week is plenty as long as you have your diet dialed in and training hard.. whats your current diet look like bro? make sure to have an AI like adex on hand also. p c t you will need clomid and hcg. from all reports derma sustain would be a good add in also. i would also reccomend amplify02 from agxsports.com an excellent pre workout product that will help keep you "pumped" after you come off aas.
 
my diet is definately gonna need some work...thats why i wanted to use E Q because it makes you eat. and thats where my diet lacks right now...i eat lots of high dense cal foods but not enough.
unfortunately im on a finance budget (student) so i cant afford all those wonderful things (such as amp02)
would i be able to run my P CT with just HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - or Clomid...or do they need to be used as a package? Cause even at that low dose i figured i wouldnt need too much P CT

i was thinking have the arimidex on hand in case of some serious estrogen build-up and use clomid for 3 weeks as my P CT

appreciate the feedback brothers
 
it dosnt make everyone eat bro contrary to popular belief.

i didnt really notice any hunger this go until the last few weeks and LATE night

Which i am leaning and attributing to glycogen depletion ( the cravings)

I would just get HCG and Derma
 
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