EQ - When will it kick in?

[PhillyPA#1]

Ive ran 10 weeks of test E at 500mg. Gained 17 pounds within the 1st 3 weeks. after that no additional weight. I immediatly jumped into another cycle(never stopped the test). Im actually begining to loose weight. My diet is much cleaner now and doing daily cardio. My goal is to add some more lean mass, harden up, and lean out and at minimum maintain my current body weight (225lbs). When will I see something from the EQ? The strength, the vascularity, the lean mass etc?

Im 2 weeks into:

EQ 400 mg 1-12 or (10-22)
test 350 mg 1-12 or (10-22)
winny 50 mg ED (weeks 1-4) or (10-14)

I never came off so I don't know to consider it a 2nd cycle or oned long one.


stats :
27yo
2nd cycle (or 1st really long one)
6'1
225 lbs
14% bf

when will EQ kick in? I hear different answers every day.

 

[sparetire]

it's already working, it just works in ways other mass steroids like test don't. It builds fine, lean muscle, the type of muscle you want to keep. Over the course of the first few weeks, you'll get hungry, but around week 5-6 you'll start to harden up a bit. week 6-8, you'll feel the hardness and strength start and most importantly, your reps will go up without getting tired and your veins will start. around week 9 you'll start exploding and you wanna keep eq going as long as you can, up to 14-20 weeks. Eq is great because some of the best gains come after your last shot - weeks 12 on. It continues to work very well for 2-3 weeks after your last shot. The only problem is that when you run something like dbol or test, it will diminish the hardness of eq. Eq is great with winny or ot, but I noticed doing eq with test, my arms aren't as hard as they are when I'm not on solo eq.

trust me...give it time and work for it. you'll love it. and make your avatar larger, btw. heheh.

The great thing about eq - you really have to work for it and in the end, it's better getting quality muscle over bloat muscle..

 

[chazk]

EQ builds muscle helps you pull out sepertion,cuts density. But you have to be willing to work for it becuase soild muscle does not come eazy
EQ cuases very little bloat or water retention so what you are building is muscle.

Like spare tire mentions , EQ is quailty not quanity

 

[splperformance]

+1 to both above...2nd...the winny needs to be saved for the last 6-8 weeks to really tighten the body up and personally i would run the test at a higher level than the eq and it needs to be ran 2 weeks longer than the eq as eq lasts longer in the system than test does

 

[nzrodney]

Agree with the above 3 posts^^^. First signs usually around week 5 for me. I'm on now 400mg PW week 10 with TestE & Deca, & just first signs of vascularity in my quads which is nice. Arms a mess with veins everywhere. It does not effect my appitite never has. Hardness yes. Definition yes after week 7-8. Full effects about 10-12. I have taken it at 600mg but not much difference with 400mg.

 

[Echo4nineteen]

Im on it now week 5 @ 400 a week, i feel great! im also taking Nitrix, i love the pumps i get from it, i feel hard, my skin is tight an im ripped ,i love EQ, i feel that my appitite is through the roof, my diet is clean so no problems there im defnatly running for 20 weeks...

 

[jumpmaster82]

youll "feel" the eq somewhere between week 4-7, and start noticing good quality gains from it around the same time.

 

[advanced-stealth]

Usually a few weeks. May take 2.5 weeks for some and 3.5 weeks for others. Depends on the person and how they react to the compound.

 

[big greg 82]

^agree!

 

[Slyder190]

If you start the Winny right away you'll see some composition changes before too long and I doubt you'll notice much from the EQ afterwords since Winny will bring better results and quicker. You tend to level off after being on for a certain period of time. So unless you're uppin the dose I wouldn't expect too much change. If I were you, I'd come off and stay off for a few months at least and then go back on. It's not realy a 2nd cycle. It's an extended first one.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

all great replies. Im much more excitied about running this compound now than I was. From a lot of the things that I read I was begining to think it might not even be worth taking. Now I think that it should be perfect for me for where im at. Thanks again. I just hate waiting!!!

 

[halfcenturian]

Philly PA... rings a bell. Can't place it. Help me out. Where you from, bro?

 

[eddymerckx]

new jersey---or is thems fightin' words

 

[hesnobradpitt]

EQ is a slow gainer but if your diet can keep up you will keep gaining, by this i mean , after 8 weeks you will notice more detail but no leaning out from the test then eq kicksin and you get fuller looking and training is easyer , but you have to up you cals at this time to take advantage ie; extra scoop of protein more meat on salad extra slice of bread or extra cottage cheese . glass of milk with dinner and lunch when your test gains slow thats when EQ can make the cycle explode with solid gains .
So your still about 5or 6 weeks from the show in IMO.
Brad.

 

[eddymerckx]

^^^agree....but give blood at least once after week 8.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

^^^agree....but give blood at least once after week 8.

what is the point of that eddy?

 

[halfcenturian]

new jersey---or is thems fightin' words

No. Ya big Ga-lute.... I mean I've seen his name around. Like other forums.
..... or maybe in the tax law periodicals I subscribe to.... :0) No biggie.

 

[eddymerckx]

the test + equipoise can make your hemocrit get too high and you start to get weird sides--esp. where you are right back on.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

the test + equipoise can make your hemocrit get too high and you start to get weird sides--esp. where you are right back on.

Some bro's sweer by baby asprin to thin the blood after 10 or so wks on but not me .

Brad.

 

[sparetire]

what sides are you referring to Eddy? I mainly monitor my bp daily just to make sure everything this okay, which it usually is. You can take a asprin to help thin the blood out, but don't freak out newjersey..Some peeps up the dose to high and get anxiety from it..but it's no biggy, just lower the dose a tad. Run your winny at the end or the last 6 weeks of the cycle to really get grooving. Eq is great, imho..

 

[eddymerckx]

what sides are you referring to Eddy? I mainly monitor my bp daily just to make sure everything this okay, which it usually is. You can take a asprin to help thin the blood out, but don't freak out newjersey..Some peeps up the dose to high and get anxiety from it..but it's no biggy, just lower the dose a tad. Run your winny at the end or the last 6 weeks of the cycle to really get grooving. Eq is great, imho..

crazy skin itches, red face, sinus troubles, tachycardia, heavy chest feeling, dizziness, weakness, ringing ears...i get it really bad here but i live at 6000 feet

 

[nzrodney]

crazy skin itches, red face, sinus troubles, tachycardia, heavy chest feeling, dizziness, weakness, ringing ears...i get it really bad here but i live at 6000 feet

I think thats called "Altitude Sickness"

 

[eddymerckx]

I think thats called "Altitude Sickness"

yes, a lot of bros move here to induce it, but the androgens and equipoise sent my hemocrit to 56 form the mid-40s (normal for people who adjust to the altitude). did a lot of research and found out that it can be common w/long term hrt people of back-to-back cycles--a few of us in Colorado all were on about the same long cycle and two got the symptoms. gave blood. all better.