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doitnow3

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Hey Guys,

I just finished a test/deca cycle. I liked the results, as far as vascularity and gains, but I experienced sexual side effects pretty bad. I was told that eq is becoming a favorite because it does not bloat you, and it will not cause deca-dick. Is this true? Are there no sexual side effects or bloating on this gear? Thanks for all responses.
 
Here's some info on eq:

The side effects associated with Equipoise are generally mild. The structure of boldenone does allow it to convert into estrogen, but it does not have an extremely high affinity to do so. To try and quantify this we can look toward aromatization studies, which suggest that its rate of estrogen conversion should be roughly half that of testosterone's. The tendency to develop a noticeable amount of water retention with this drug would therefore be slightly higher than that with Deca-DurabolinO (with an estimated 20% a conversion), but much less than what would be expected with a stronger agent such as Testosterone. While one does still have a chance of encountering an estrogen related side effect as such when using this substance, it is not a common problem when taken at a moderate dosage level. Gynecomastia might theoretically become a concern, but is usually only heaved of with very sensitive individuals or (again) those venturing high in dosage. Should estrogenic effects become troublesome, the addition of Nolvadex and/or Proviron should of course make the cycle more tolerable. An antiaromatase such as Cytadren or Arimidex would be stronger options, however probably not indicated with a mild drug as such.

Equipoise can also produce distinct androgenic side effects. Incidences of oily skin, acne, increased aggression and hair loss are likewise all possible with this compound, although will typically be related to the use of higher doses. Women in fact find this drug quite comfortable, virilization symptoms usually unseen when taken at low doses. Boldenone does reduce to a more potent androgen (dihydroboldenone) via the 5alpha reductase enzyme (which produces DHT from testosterone), however its affinity for this interaction in the human body is low to nonexistent". We therefore cannot consider the reductase inhibitor Proscar to be of much use with Equipoise, as it would be blocking what is at best an insignificant path of metabolism for the steroid. And although this drug is relatively mild, it may still have a depressive effect on endogenous testosterone levels. A combination of HCG and Clomid/Nolvadex may likewise be needed at the conclusion of each cycle to avoid a "crash", particularly when running long in duration.

Not a rapid mass builder, instead Equipoise will be looked at to provide a slow but steady gain of strength and quality muscle mass. The most positive effects of this drug are seen when it is used for longer cycles, usually lasting more than 8-10 weeks in duration. The muscle gained should not be the smooth bulk seen with androgens, but very defined and solid. Since water bloat is not contributing greatly to the diameter of the muscle, much of the size gained on a cycle of Equipoise can be retained after the drug has been discontinued. It is interesting to note that structurally Equipoise and the classic bulking drug Dianabol are almost identical. In the case of Equipoise the compound uses a l7beta ester (undecylenate), while Dianabol is 17 alpha alkylated. Aside from this the molecules are the same. Of course they act quite differently in the body, which goes to show the 17-methylation effects more than just the oral efficacy of a steroid.

hope it helps abit

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Thanks mini viper, it does. But, in regards to the sexual problems while on this drug, does anyone have any experience?
 
Mini Viper said:
...Boldenone does reduce to a more potent androgen (dihydroboldenone) via the 5alpha reductase enzyme (which produces DHT from testosterone), however its affinity for this interaction in the human body is low to nonexistent"....:)
Good read on EQ. It fits with all the other profiles I have read about EQ but with a little more information than most. I have read also that it is considered by many as a slightly more androgenic deca. Has anyone else heard that? Does anyone know how anabolic EQ is compared to Deca?

One thing I find a little amusing though: if boldenone is reduced by 5-AR, that means the 4,5-double bond is reduced leaving the 1,2-double bond intact. That means "dihydroboldenone" is really just 1-testosterone. It amuses me that the author seems to go out of his/her way to avoid calling it 1-test, which we all know is held in low esteem by many steroid users because they think it is somehow inferior because of its legal status.

BTW, all you 1-test haters (LOL) the article acknowledges that DHB(=1-test) is more androgenic than EQ.
 
For me, anything that is predominantly anabolic will have a pretty impressive impact on libido and test doesn't seem to fix this.

EQ really killed my desire to have sex, VAR did the same thing, and 1-TEST was the worst.

I was running EQ/ENAN at 600/500/wk and was pretty much disinterested and/or had a very hard time getting off. Doing VAR at 37.5mg ED along with 500mg CYP/WK was too much too as I was occasionally horny, but I couldn't stay interested in sex long enough to complete the act. I would just go on forever and just decide to quit. It's weird/embarrassing when a girl asks you, "did you just fake it?"

I dropped the VAR entirely and basically felt uncontrollably horny in just 36hrs so I know it was the VAR. As for 1-Test, I used that and wasn't only disinterested, but physically incapable of becomming interested that was definitely the worst...

Strange thing that I haven't figured out...When I included just a little HCG (like 500iu EW) I was completely "normal" for most of the following week. Doesn't make sense to me since this inclusion would just result in more natural test, but the exo test wasn't doing me any good so I don't know what the natural test was doing "better" than the CYP or ENAN was doing.
 
so far, this is really good info...thanks......basically, I am searching for something that will give me nice effects, but not interfere(negatively) with my libido....how about some suggestions? Maybe winny?.fina?........what do you guys think???
 
You could either do EQ/test or run EQ and Proviron together if you're afraid of sexual sides. EQ doesn't shut you down hard like deca. And don't bother with Fina because that is also terrible when it comes to sexual sides.
 
Spidey said:
One thing I find a little amusing though: if boldenone is reduced by 5-AR, that means the 4,5-double bond is reduced leaving the 1,2-double bond intact. That means "dihydroboldenone" is really just 1-testosterone. It amuses me that the author seems to go out of his/her way to avoid calling it 1-test, which we all know is held in low esteem by many steroid users because they think it is somehow inferior because of its legal status.

BTW, all you 1-test haters (LOL) the article acknowledges that DHB(=1-test) is more androgenic than EQ.

I'm sure the article was written way before 1-test was released on the "pro-steroid" market. The 1-test name was basically chosen as a marketing strategy to associate it with testosterone.

And the fact that dihydroboldenone is a stronger androgen than boldenone is irrelevant. People take EQ because it is a mild androgen and a great anabolic. Being more androgenic doesn't necessarily mean "better."
 
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