johnny tougharms said:i used it at 600mg and retained no water at all
da big thinker said:from what i understood from your posts,you consume quite a high amount of cals already...well,get ready for additional hunger to strike.while on EQ,i did not have any water retention whatsoever but i did use it along w/ tren,which as a combo,impressed the hell out of me...freaky vascularity and excellent muscle hardness which stayed with me post cycle...it's been about 15 weeks now and still hard as rock...my diet is in tact as well though...---fyi---
ps:i was using gana @ 350mg/week...
serge said:PS, have you by any chance tried IP's eq? is it worth it? i love everything i've used from him so far, but like i said i have yet to try eq
da big thinker said:
excellent choice...i've used **'s EQ and tren and i obtained the desired results(hunger,sick vascularity,muscle hardness and quality gains that remained post cycle)...as for you using tren in every cycle...you're one smart MOFO...can't beat the freaky look that EQ and tren + DIET + HIGH VOLUME TRAINING dish out...PS:I agree w/ you on water retention...hate it w/ a passion...---fyi
serge said:
thanx for the go on **'s shit, as far as tren, its not really about being smart, its more like tren being dirt cheap, very available, very very effective for bulking and cutting, and the big one NO WATER RETENSION

georgie24 said:
are you getting any pain from the tren, i did a delt today and bout to![]()
serge said:
no, you have to make sure your shit is sterile
serge said:preheat your oven to 225F bake your tren in there for 15min, take out let cool back to the room temp and repeat, do it 3 times. or you can buy a filter to put on the syringe and run the tren trough it.
da big thinker said:
you did this w/ **'s tren...?interesting...i just combine EQ and the tren goes in like butta...hehehe...serge,i would like to discuss this method w/ you if possible...can i send you an e-mail bro?
serge said:
bro, i make my own tren, but you can use a similar method for removing excess alcohol from ip's gear if that shit makes you soar. Email: [email protected]; my elite addy does not always work
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