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themanc84

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Has anyone here run cycles of EQ by itself? Im thinking 600mg for 14-15 weeks for my upcoming cycle...my main concern is loss of libido during and after cycle...
 
Has anyone here run cycles of EQ by itself? Im thinking 600mg for 14-15 weeks for my upcoming cycle...my main concern is loss of libido during and after cycle...

I ran EQ for 30 weeks. 18 w/ test and other AAS and about 12 then beyond on its own. My conclusion is that EQ sucks. If anything, it helped retain enough nitrogen that i didn't lose gains, but I didn't make them either. Din't really do much else that people say it does, and I have to say 30 weeks is a good run with it (maybe not quite 30 weeks, but more than 25). I have no desire to use EQ again ever. Regarding libido, I was ok. Not as much of a constant hard on as I am now with test/mast but not like I was limp fish either. Right now if the wind blows I want to fuck it. But on EQ i guess it was normal, meaning that I could get it up but not always on my mind. I'm about to jerk off right now, no joke. After I post it I will begin....now.
 
themanc84 in all honestly you not going to hear what you want to hear... everyone is going to say otherwise or give you difference advice. 1 of my pro friends uses it alone sometimes and says he absolutely loves it and gets shredded to hell, but he did say don't expect to get ripped from it if you already have high BF and due to red blood count rising your BF can get higher not to mention the hunger pains if you don't eat enough. I have done a few of EQ only cycles and have gotten good results but as everyone says, add some test to it and you really start to notice it and that is true.

Also with the vascularity of what the product does, this doesn't really help us as we bodybuilders. But in the end I have not lost 1 single KG of muscle added when using it... then again I have not really put on that many kg's when using it :) I guess it works differently for different people, some people tell me they will never use this product again and it’s totally shit. Others swear by it, some say mg / mg doses they will use it any day over deca, some say they will use deca over it... so why not give it a bash and educate all of us as to how it reacted to you?
 
I ran EQ for 30 weeks. 18 w/ test and other AAS and about 12 then beyond on its own. My conclusion is that EQ sucks. If anything, it helped retain enough nitrogen that i didn't lose gains, but I didn't make them either. Din't really do much else that people say it does, and I have to say 30 weeks is a good run with it (maybe not quite 30 weeks, but more than 25). I have no desire to use EQ again ever. Regarding libido, I was ok. Not as much of a constant hard on as I am now with test/mast but not like I was limp fish either. Right now if the wind blows I want to fuck it. But on EQ i guess it was normal, meaning that I could get it up but not always on my mind. I'm about to jerk off right now, no joke. After I post it I will begin....now.

Were your gains any different than a 8-12 week cycle??
 
I ran EQ for 30 weeks. 18 w/ test and other AAS and about 12 then beyond on its own. My conclusion is that EQ sucks. If anything, it helped retain enough nitrogen that i didn't lose gains, but I didn't make them either. Din't really do much else that people say it does, and I have to say 30 weeks is a good run with it (maybe not quite 30 weeks, but more than 25). I have no desire to use EQ again ever. Regarding libido, I was ok. Not as much of a constant hard on as I am now with test/mast but not like I was limp fish either. Right now if the wind blows I want to fuck it. But on EQ i guess it was normal, meaning that I could get it up but not always on my mind. I'm about to jerk off right now, no joke. After I post it I will begin....now.

maybe your gear was underdosed? A buddy of mine just ran EQ by itself and his gains were tremendous...he said he actually lost a couple of pounds...but everyone at work questioned if he was juicing...he always looked pumped and veiny
 
themanc84 in all honestly you not going to hear what you want to hear... everyone is going to say otherwise or give you difference advice. 1 of my pro friends uses it alone sometimes and says he absolutely loves it and gets shredded to hell, but he did say don't expect to get ripped from it if you already have high BF and due to red blood count rising your BF can get higher not to mention the hunger pains if you don't eat enough. I have done a few of EQ only cycles and have gotten good results but as everyone says, add some test to it and you really start to notice it and that is true.

Also with the vascularity of what the product does, this doesn't really help us as we bodybuilders. But in the end I have not lost 1 single KG of muscle added when using it... then again I have not really put on that many kg's when using it :) I guess it works differently for different people, some people tell me they will never use this product again and it’s totally shit. Others swear by it, some say mg / mg doses they will use it any day over deca, some say they will use deca over it... so why not give it a bash and educate all of us as to how it reacted to you?

thank you very much for writing me such a valid response...my plan isnt to get shedded...I want to add hopefully 10lbs of mass and appear more vascular and full....im hoping 600mg of EQ for 14 weeks could help me achieve that....I will be jumpstarting with beastdrol and may add 250mg of Test E throughout the cycle to help with libido
 
Just by using 50mg of Proviron and 400mg EQ I never had an issue with libido and this way I did a somewhat EQ only cycle + using the Proviron to utilize all free ranging test in my system. Most research I have done states no less than 400mg a week and no more than 600mg... People have also stated they see more with using 600mg over 400mg but do not see any results with doses higher than 600mg/week. I am quoting information received from my friend who is South African’s heaviest bodybuilder so I do somewhat trust his judgment.

I am currently running around 300mg test and 200mg of EQ and running it for a long period of time and slowly starting to get some nice gains... my girlfriend said to me the other day 'shoe you looking big, not puffy or anything just big' my weight has stayed around the same, maybe picked up 2/3kgs but my body fat is dropping so one is going to look that much harder. Many people would tell me I’m using to little EQ but I believe smaller amounts for longer periods of time that higher doses for short cycles, as any less than 14 months is a waste with this product. I don’t want to sap my receptors and prefer doing things with smaller doses for longer periods of time… I used to be a pig and take vast amounts of gear but I find for my body personally smaller amounts for longer periods of time. This way my blood pressure is staying at around 127 / 54 which are very low readings when using adding test to a cycle. This way having my BP this low I don’t add strain to my kidneys with kidneys not passing allot of protein through them and my blood pressure low I don’t put that much impact on the left side of my heart and I can have a nice healthy cycle with very few side effects.
The nice thing about EQ is very seldom does it cause high blood pressure, aromatization 50% less than test, water retention is low it’s not liver toxic DHT conversion is low the decrease in HPTA function is moderate and it’s a highly anabolic steroid.
But very eager to see how to affects you… I’m pretty sure you won’t be disappointed if you not in a hurry to get results and are prepared to wait a few weeks.
 
I am currently running around 300mg test and 200mg of EQ and running it for a long period of time and slowly starting to get some nice gains... my girlfriend said to me the other day 'shoe you looking big, not puffy or anything just big' my weight has stayed around the same, maybe picked up 2/3kgs but my body fat is dropping so one is going to look that much harder. Many people would tell me I’m using to little EQ but I believe smaller amounts for longer periods of time that higher doses for short cycles, as any less than 14 months is a waste with this product. I don’t want to sap my receptors and prefer doing things with smaller doses for longer periods of time… I used to be a pig and take vast amounts of gear but I find for my body personally smaller amounts for longer periods of time. This way my blood pressure is staying at around 127 / 54 which are very low readings when using adding test to a cycle. This way having my BP this low I don’t add strain to my kidneys with kidneys not passing allot of protein through them and my blood pressure low I don’t put that much impact on the left side of my heart and I can have a nice healthy cycle with very few side effects.

That sounds interesting...I never heard of anyone taking doses that low for such a long period of time...unless it was prescribed by a doctor to someone with low testosterone maybe 200mg/week...Ive done 3 cycles and each time I felt that I might have been taking too much...Im now considering running my test at 250mg and my EQ at 300mg for 20-30 weeks and seeing how it works for me.

The nice thing about EQ is very seldom does it cause high blood pressure, aromatization 50% less than test, water retention is low it’s not liver toxic DHT conversion is low the decrease in HPTA function is moderate and it’s a highly anabolic steroid.

These are the reasons why I chose EQ for my upcoming cycle^^^
 
Sounds awesome :) it’s the same thing with guys under 21, their test levels are through the roof, yet they injecting loads of test... I’m like WHY????? you are at the peak of your hormone level... you most probably more 'jaggered' than any guy with 800mg test in them... don't touch anything... I'm a firm believer don't touch gear before you 23... Allot might disagree, but I personal find it not necessary from all studies I have done.

Even if you read Chemical_Muscle_Enhancement it states doses of EQ at "Quote: Average reported dose: Men 150-500mg weekly, Woman 50-150mg weekly.

Thing is, there is no harm in using low doses of gear, and if you find it’s not working for you, it’s easy to increase it... but using high doses you just cannot decrease it during a cycle... only now on hmm, week 6 i'm starting to have all my veins in my forearms coming out... i'm seeing no water retention even with the bit of test i'm using.. and I’m pushing some crazy weights in the gym and looking freakishly pumped afterwards...

I find when I start taking too much test, I just become a horrid person, I can't control my moods / anger / temper, etc.... I get none of this with EQ, yes after doing some serious legs or calves I do sometimes feel like chewing on a bar in the gym to release the pain, but that’s normal isn't it :D

I'm happy you going to try this... 1 IFBB pro I spoke to in London when I was training there, said to me.. When he used to compete he used to take 1 vile of sustanon 100 per week (Do they still make this?)... I don't want to mention names in respect of him, but this guy looked amazing!!! He said or his belief was people just take way to much gear and it’s not necessary... he had 1 russian guy training at his gym that had such a body a back that spread so wide and this guy was taking such small doses but knew how to train his body and ate like a king.... yes you get some pros that I know that take over a gram of test a week.. And it works for them, but I see the same results with people using small amounts of the product and not having half the side effects. But isn't it human natural just to overdo everything? Take more than what our receptors can even endure?

Anyway that’s my 50c, some people must think I’m taking crazy pills :) others might actually see the light and not put their body under so much strain...
 
yrs ago i did eq only for a whole summer and i had no problem i would just last a while fucking all chics i would meet lol...i wouldve done more stuff i was just broke back then so just 2 ccs of eq i did all summer long...i still got gains id rather do that then come off and be a "normal" person fuck that
 
yrs ago i did eq only for a whole summer and i had no problem i would just last a while fucking all chics i would meet lol...i wouldve done more stuff i was just broke back then so just 2 ccs of eq i did all summer long...i still got gains id rather do that then come off and be a "normal" person fuck that

Since when did you start liking girls? :biggrin:
 
Im going to run 250mg of test and 300mg of EQ for 10 weeks and see what it does for me...after 10 weeks if Im not satisfied with my gains I'll up the dose to 500mg of test and 600mg of EQ for another 5-10 weeks
 
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