EQ alone on HRT

[r1]

EQ alone WHILE on HRT

Hi All,

I'm being treated with HRT using Nolva alone at 20mg/night. I went through the HRT wringer for 2 years with all different kinds of stuff (Test alone (patch, gel, injection), Test + HCG, HCG alone, etc). This site let me to Swale who led me to my current doc. Many thanks. Nolva alone works and works well and my doc approves. Blood levels are spot on and I generally feel good.

I'd like to run EQ alone. A lot of people seem to stack EQ with Test, but I didn't do well on Test. My first HRT doc gave me 400mg Test Cyp every 3 weeks. I often felt like shit during the first week. I wasn't having lab work done then, so i can only guess that aromatization was a problem. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem with Nolva or some Adex in the picture, but I don't wanna chance it. Feeling like shit feels forever.

Since I'm continuously doing PCT via Nolva, I was wondering how you'd handle this...up the Nolva to 40 at the end? Then back to 20?

Thanks,
R1

 

[georgie24]

best advice is your dr's ( who knows steroids!) about your HRT

not here

 

[Nelson Montana]

The dosaging was bad. 400 is too much up front. 100mgs a week is standard. You shouldn't need nolva. AST that dosage,1/4 mgs of a-dex every 3 days and some natural anti aromatase supps should be fine.

EQ would not be a good choice for HRT.

 

[jochensa]

best advice is your dr's ( who knows steroids!) about your HRT

not here

the doc's dont know shit really IMO. it is kinda up to the individual to figure out what is hoodoo and gospel

 

[MorganKane]

No doctor will give you EQ for HRT.

 

[tommyguns2]

The good news is that what you were doing was crap, so you have hope of finding a solution that will work for you.

A single injection every three weeks will not provide you stable hormone levels. Rather, a single injection once a week of test cyp will work much better. Since the doc had you at 400mg once per 3 weeks, you may want to go to 125mg/wk.

Regarding aromatization, you'll know it if it's too much! You'll carry a lot of water (swelling in face, feet, etc) and you'll get itchy nips. Most people will use a low dose of a-dex for this, for example, 0.25mg EOD. A little aromatization is OK, too much is bad.

EQ is not available legally for HRT. EQ alone would be a bad idea, since it would likely give you undesirable sexual sides over a long period of time. Why do you think EQ is a good idea?

 

[r1]

Sorry guys...I should have been more clear.

I am not intending to use EQ as a form of HRT. My HRT regimen is finally tuned up and I'm happy with it and plan on sticking with it.

During the course of figuring this all out, I lost about 10 solid lbs that I'm having a lot of trouble getting back.

I'd like to run EQ for 8-10 weeks and then fall back on my current HRT regimen. I do not want to replace my regimen with EQ. I'm just curious about how to handle PCT since I already take Nolva every day.

jochensa is totally right about the docs. Swale was the only doc who knew anything and I went through 3 docs to find him. 100mg/week of Test Cyp + HCG twice a week was a good program, but Nolva alone has been better (for me).

R1

 

[trowsersnake98]

ok, im really confused here. first, explain what your current hrt plan is. (because lord knows the first one was horrendous).


second, EQ will need to be ran at least 12 weeks but 14-16 is highly recommended. if your on hrt you wont need pct.

 

[r1]

Current HRT regimen: 20mg of Nolva every night. That's it. You're right...the first regmin sucked and sucked bad. I thought I was losing my f'in mind.

Latest lab results:
Total T: 597 (range = 241 to 827)
DHT: 52 (range = 25 to 75)
Estradiol (E2): 25 (range = 13 to 54)
Free T3: 398 (range = 230 to 420)

Quick summary: After 2+ years of messing with HRT, we got it right. During the process, I lost a solid 10 lbs that I really want back and am having trouble gaining back. I'd like to run EQ to help and will continue with my HRT program after stopping the EQ.

Thanks,
R1

 

[SpyWizard]

Aw.. the nolva has you in the normal range

you want to add eq for 8-10 weeks..

what would be the goal for you during this time.??

 

[r1]

Goal is to gain some mass/size. I'm already pretty lean.

R1

 

[tommyguns2]

After finally getting your levels in check, I would be hesitant to add any compounds that will shut you down. EQ, while mild compared to some other compounds, will shut you down, particularly when you run it as long as you should (12-16 weeks) for it to be effective in meeting your goals.

Without looking at AAS, I would consider jacking up your clean calories to 3500 cals/day, with a macro ratio of 40/30/30 (P/C/F). Go heavy on the compound exercises, like squat and deadlift.

If you want to go the AAS route, try test at 200mg/wk for 12-14 weeks. You'll need to do proper PCT to make sure you get back on track. Alternatively, you could try anavar at 50mg/day for 6-8 weeks, followed by PCT. (any use of AAS will result in some form of shutdown)

Good luck, and glad to hear that you're feeling better.