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DevilDawgCoop

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From what I have read you really have to watch your BP while using this. Is it only threatening while actually using it or for the 3-6 that it is taking affect ?
 
just do EQ and a low dose of test . Maybe add some HG if you have money .


Unless your going pro, stay away from EPO .
 
Cant use EQ . It stays in your system for 5 months and I have a full out test in Sept. I dont plan on taking 10,0000 IU's at once. From what I have read you take 15-50 per KG of body weight. I wanted to stay around 25 or so. I cant use test either it adds to much water weight and I have run times to meet. I am exspected to run 2 miles with in 13:30 then after I pass that test we ruck threw the mountains on our first day for 16 miles and with in the 30 days of being there our final test is a 40 mile ruck with weighted backpack threw the mountains.
 
EPO is too dangerous for your payoff. You just need to train hard. None of the posts in this thread support the use of EPO. For that matter I don't think you will find anyone here that will green light your idea.

I live in a world where its use is prevalent, and I can tell you that it is bad news.

So, in short, there is no good short cut for you on this one. You just need to work as hard as you can.

B-
 
Cant use EQ . It stays in your system for 5 months and I have a full out test in Sept. I dont plan on taking 10,0000 IU's at once. From what I have read you take 15-50 per KG of body weight. I wanted to stay around 25 or so. I cant use test either it adds to much water weight and I have run times to meet. I am exspected to run 2 miles with in 13:30 then after I pass that test we ruck threw the mountains on our first day for 16 miles and with in the 30 days of being there our final test is a 40 mile ruck with weighted backpack threw the mountains.



If you cant use EQ , Id look into HGH , use it for recovering . Unless your getting paid that Lance Armstrong money , and need to keep sponser , EPO is not worth it .
 
I wasnt planning on doing it year around. I jus needed a jump start to get my cardio going. I have dealt with HGH and considered it after doing a short cycle of epo. I was planning on going with Somatropin for 6 months or so then it will be off to training for 8 months with no contact with people of any sorts including internet so I wont be able to do any gym time or have a fridge for HGH, but it will be pure cardio for the 8 months.
 
I wasnt planning on doing it year around. I jus needed a jump start to get my cardio going. I have dealt with HGH and considered it after doing a short cycle of epo. I was planning on going with Somatropin for 6 months or so then it will be off to training for 8 months with no contact with people of any sorts including internet so I wont be able to do any gym time or have a fridge for HGH, but it will be pure cardio for the 8 months.



Well it looks like you're going to do it regardless what anyone says here.I'm sure there are better options but you don't want to hear them. so i'll just say"Good Luck"
 
As you seem to be able to afford EPO, have you considered purchasing an Altitude tent?

How about stimulants in general such as Modafinil?

PS: 13:30 for 2 miles is no where near elite/professional standards. Even with Epo (which may give about a 3-4% boost in elite athletes), you won't be able to race competitively. Side effects aside, I cannot see the financial justification for purchasing it.
 
Never thought of buying an Altitude Tent nor did the site give a price which is scary also. Modafinil all I gather from reading about it was a Serotonin booster. The 13:30 is what is required to be accepted into the program not sure what the end result will be. I jus took one test and failed my run portion. I am a lil heavy 240 lbs and have been trying to cut weight. I have been keeping under 2000 calories eating alot of rice and veggies and lifting high reps ( 4 X 12-15). I have another test in less than 30 days. I need to cut 2 minutes off my run time. I have added alot more cardio to my training as Elliptical , Jump Rope and Kettle Bell. I had even thought of going with Clen / T-3 but I understand you cramp up alot on it. I have been beating this bush every which way I can to find a safe easy solution.
 
I would train by incorporating runs that are exactly 2 miles. Time yourself on them, and do it at least a couple times a week.

If 240 is your normal weight, then your current diet should work very well. On the other hand, if you had already recently been losing weight, your metabolism will have slowed already. You could use T3 or Clen (note: don't use both), as they will provide a real but temporary reduction in weight loss.

Regarding altitude tents, they can be rented for 169/week at Hypoxico.com. Its a ripoff, but if your considering buying Epo then well......
 
Never thought of buying an Altitude Tent nor did the site give a price which is scary also. Modafinil all I gather from reading about it was a Serotonin booster. The 13:30 is what is required to be accepted into the program not sure what the end result will be. I jus took one test and failed my run portion. I am a lil heavy 240 lbs and have been trying to cut weight. I have been keeping under 2000 calories eating alot of rice and veggies and lifting high reps ( 4 X 12-15). I have another test in less than 30 days. I need to cut 2 minutes off my run time. I have added alot more cardio to my training as Elliptical , Jump Rope and Kettle Bell. I had even thought of going with Clen / T-3 but I understand you cramp up alot on it. I have been beating this bush every which way I can to find a safe easy solution.



What are you training for ? At 240 pounds , EPO is the last thing you need . Cycling / Running is a skinny mans sport. :qt:
 
Yea I know at 240 its a pain to run. I went to Iraq at 260 and dropped to 225 by hitting a cycle of test/primo then tapered off with tren. Thats how I got down to 225. Then made it back to the states and started a cycle of low level test and shot back to 240 and of course I get a email for the test dates for selection. I started another cycle of tren to drop weight and got back to 225, but fluctuating back and forth between 225-235. I need to get down to 205-210 to get my run time in range. I run every other day even with the shin splints I push threw with alot of tiger balm. I have about 25 days to make the run time. I have even been trying stacker 3's with caffieene to try and cut weight and even if I pass this test this is jus the easy part the hard part comes 3 months later when they have me for 30 days of pure torture. I have even been threw S.E.R.E. school (POW School) and I this will be harder.
 
I've read on numerous occasions that this is supposed to be expensive, but from a well known online source that ryhmes with Japs Fear, it's only $29 for 4000IU/1ml. Is this the same product? I have no intentions of using it, just would like to better understand the subject.
 
I saw another site that was around the same price , but I have also researched there are a couple different types. Alpha , Beta and another one that started with " D " . From what I understand some are weaker than others and from what I gather some are Vet grade and the exspensive one is Human Grade for Anemic Patients.
 
Honestly man, if every single person who posted on a thread in an AAS forum such as this one was telling me to stay the hell away from a certain drug, I wouldn't touch it with a 50 foot pole. You should listen to these guys. EPO is especially not used for your situation. It is used for the top elite runners, the ones who make millions off advertisement campaigns for being so good at what they do, to improve their performance. You don't need it.
 
Im not taking this to be a top paid athlete. I am one of the guys that you call during 9/11. I was a prior Recon Marine in the late 80's and jus re-entered the military again because the civilian life is to boring. I have applied with an elite anti-terrorist group and they are giving me a shot to prove myself. Would you want someone that couldnt make the distance protecting the Nation ? I know they give this to Horses for racing , to pitbulls in the box , and Lance Armstrong among the most recent one was busted using it to better themselves. I have tried Winny , but cramp up a bit. So I turn to the more exp people here for guidance , even though yall say stay away you will die , but so did my Platoon SGT when he found out I was doing Deca / Primo/ Sust in Iraq. I know people here has used it and live to tell about it so a lil guidance here instead of redirecting. Thanks in advance
 
Your right that it isn't necessarily as dangerous as some people believe. In medical treatment, it replaced Anadrol for anemia because Anadrol had worse side effects.

Like most of everyone else here on this form, I have no experience with Epo either. I can quote wiki or abstracts on this substance from PubMed for you, but you can do that yourself.
 
Im not taking this to be a top paid athlete. I am one of the guys that you call during 9/11. I was a prior Recon Marine in the late 80's and jus re-entered the military again because the civilian life is to boring. I have applied with an elite anti-terrorist group and they are giving me a shot to prove myself. Would you want someone that couldnt make the distance protecting the Nation ? I know they give this to Horses for racing , to pitbulls in the box , and Lance Armstrong among the most recent one was busted using it to better themselves. I have tried Winny , but cramp up a bit. So I turn to the more exp people here for guidance , even though yall say stay away you will die , but so did my Platoon SGT when he found out I was doing Deca / Primo/ Sust in Iraq. I know people here has used it and live to tell about it so a lil guidance here instead of redirecting. Thanks in advance


You should be able to run this time with proper training. I don't see the point of taking EPO for elite anti-terrorist group training. What happens when your off the shit and your in combat ?
 
Yes if I had time to properly train I would make the time with ease, but I jus stepped off the plane from Iraq and got my email to report for tryouts. I tried running in Iraq , but temp would be 130 before noon. What happens when you down cycle and get under attack ? Last time I took fire my Adrenaline went threw the roof you dont recall alot jus muscle memory takes over from your training.
 
dont fuck with it bro its not worth it my buddy tryed it and is permently skrewed up cant lift anymore fucked his heart valve maybe genetic but it still happened while taking EPO,have you thought of anadrol I did'nt hear anyone mention it but shit that shit is the bomb for cardio just a thought bro,trying to help a brother out.
 
Yea have thought of Anadrol , but my buddy takes it and is swoll which there is water weight and im trying to avoid that. I would hate to take a shot to the heart cant work like that so I emailed the shop and asked to switch to Somatropin. Its only 80 IU's not sure what I can accomplish with jus that. Maybe I should change that to a big order of Winny and suck up the cramping.
 
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epo is not dangerous. People who have no clue what they are talking about shouldn't act like they do. You can safely get levels to 50% hematacrit and some people have this naturally especially at higher altitude. Most experts agree that even 60% is relatively safe when monitored. EPO is easy to get, has great results and people who say you should take AAS, Eq, whatever are clueless. The who point behind taking EPO and not Anabolic is it doesn't shut down your test and also is far superior in RBC stimulation.
 
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