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Ephedrine 150mg/day
- Thread starter H.I.B
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i really don't think one should use ephidrine every single day, as the body gets used to it pretty fast...
i also train martial arts, and i took it for about 3-4 times a week.... every other day.
in that way, you will get more of a kick from it, and you won't be addicted to it as easy, you can get addicted from it you know..
by the way, 150mg of pure ephidrine is too much, i'd recomend 100mg tops!
i did 75-90mg, and it worked wonders for me
i also train martial arts, and i took it for about 3-4 times a week.... every other day.
in that way, you will get more of a kick from it, and you won't be addicted to it as easy, you can get addicted from it you know..
by the way, 150mg of pure ephidrine is too much, i'd recomend 100mg tops!
i did 75-90mg, and it worked wonders for me
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satchboogie
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most i've ever taken in one dose is 100mg and other than the 'speedy' affect i was fine.
so if you're planning on spacing out 150mg throughout the day, i dont see any problems.
expect to stay up that night.
so if you're planning on spacing out 150mg throughout the day, i dont see any problems.
expect to stay up that night.
MrMakaveli
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Drop the Asprin.
Caffeine yes.
I dont know about 150mg a day tho....Why so much?
Caffeine yes.
I dont know about 150mg a day tho....Why so much?
Judah Bauer
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i've had success pyramiding up to ephedrine, 25mg every two hours starting at 6 am going till 4pm (150mg). It was more effective than clen in this manner...I think because the halflife of Ephedrine is only about 2 hours...when you do it like this it seems to stay effective all day...and I wasn't jittery at all because I pyramided up slowly.
AlbinoAssassin
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That's a lot of ephedrine bro! I would definitely assess my tolerance at a lower dose, you should see results around 80-100mg's a day. If you feel the need, you can up it from there. I definitely would not go right into that much ephedrine, it leaves you now where to go and could be unhealthy. I have used ephedrine probably 6 or 7 times for extended period and I had great results with a lot less than 150mg's a day. Whatever you decide, good luck man!
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DepressiveJuice
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Choker_22 said:
anyone know if this is true?
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satchboogie
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its very addictive!
Judah Bauer
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DepressiveJuice said:
no worse than caffeine. In fact, not as bad.
AlbinoAssassin
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I don't think it's psychologically addictive in the sense that you will be like a crackhead looking for a fix, but if you come off without tapering down you will know that your body had developed an addiction to it. You will drag seriously bad for a few days, have a headache, sleeplessness, etc. I only went throught his once or twice before I realized that I needed to taper down. When I tapered I suffered from none of these. I will never stop cold turkey again, it sucks. When taking it every other day it's not as much a matter of not being addicted as it is that your body doesn't develop as much of a tolerance. This just means you will feel more of a kick from it when you do take it. Good luck and be smart!
PLEASE do not use that much!!! Please..some people don't understand how serious Ephedrine CAN be. Anything that fucks around with your heart can be potentially fatal. Use it in small amounts and rely on your diet and hard work for the rest. Thas the problem sometimes, people rely to much on drugs and end up geting hurt because of it. Be safe
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satchboogie
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please do not speak unless its from personal experience.
efedrine, if abused, will mess you up!
the crash affect after extended use is similiar to cocaine and/or speed but only slightly as harsh.
i know as i've been there...... 100mg every day for 2 months.
you get used to the shit and it has little to no affect after a while.
efedrine, if abused, will mess you up!
the crash affect after extended use is similiar to cocaine and/or speed but only slightly as harsh.
i know as i've been there...... 100mg every day for 2 months.
you get used to the shit and it has little to no affect after a while.
i agree with satchboogie, ephidrine is nothing to play with, its strong potent stuff... and you'll get easily addicted to it, i know from experience... but, as i was aware of it before i started, i only took it 3-4 times a week, and 75-90mg a day.
i also think that one shouldn't be on it for more than 2 months at a time...
i also think that one shouldn't be on it for more than 2 months at a time...
TheDarkSideNinja
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Hey....
RIKER....tell what you said above to the families of the ones who died using regular doses!!!! You won't cause your a bitch who has no idea wtf he is talkin about!!!
RIKER....tell what you said above to the families of the ones who died using regular doses!!!! You won't cause your a bitch who has no idea wtf he is talkin about!!!
Judah Bauer
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Re: Hey....
Please post evidence of a death that was the result of ephedrine used according to the directions. I'd like to see one.
TheDarkSideNinja said:
Please post evidence of a death that was the result of ephedrine used according to the directions. I'd like to see one.
TheDarkSideNinja
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HERE IS JUST 1 SOURCE OF THE MANY I HAVE!!! NOT TO MENTION I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY USED NORMAL DOSES AND EXPERIENCED BAD PROBS SO BLOW THAT OUTTA YOUR PIPES YOU HOMO!!!
Ephedrine (Metabolife) Side Effects
Derived from an evergreen plant in Central Asia, ephedra is used as a major ingredient in sport drinks and dietary supplements. Currently, Metabolife International's diet pill is under investigation. Taking Metabolife and other ephedra products heightens alertness by stimulating the central nervous system, but products including Metabolife have been linked to deadly and serious ephedrine side effects. The FDA had been unsuccessfully trying to obtain adverse ephedrine side effects reports from the industry since at least 1997, but since the deregulation of herbal products, the figures had not been collected.
The FDA has been collecting and receiving reports of adverse ephedrine side effects since 1994, and in a September 1994 FDA Medical Bulletin, the agency reported the number was increasing. The reported reactions varied from mild ephedrine side effects to very serious conditions including:
nervousness
dizziness
tremor
alternations in blood pressure or heart rate
headache
gastrointestinal distress
chest pain
myocardial infarction
hepatitis
stroke
seizures
pyschosis
death
Since 1994, the FDA has collected reports of over 100 deaths among ephedra users such as Metabolife. Metabolife is the number one maker of ephedra supplements in the U.S. A report from the Centers for Disease Control on August 16, 1996, reported that the Bureau of Food and Drug safety, Texas Department of Health, received around 500 reports of adverse ephedrine side effects in persons that consumed the dietary supplement products. The adverse ephedrine side effects report total included reports by individuals and as identified by the Bureau of Epidemiology in a review of records from the six Texas Poison Center Network centers. The severity of the ephedrine side effects ranged, but eight ephedrine users died and reports of stroke, myocardial infarction, chest pain, and seizures were reported. The reports included patients that followed the recommended dosage.
According to a December 21, 2000 New England Journal of Medicine article, researchers consider 25 mg to be the recommended therapeutic dose that is usually given with about 200 mg of caffeine. This one dose of Metabolife quickens the heart rate, opens up the bronchial airways allowing more oxygen to become available, and constricts the blood vessels resulting in an increased blood pressure. Some Metabolife users react more strongly to ephedrine compounds whether or not they follow a recommended dosage leading to a reason why Metabolife side effects are experienced.
On October 11, 2001, Public Citizen consumer group made a statement before the National Academy of Sciences on the Framework for Evaluating the Safety of Dietary Supplements citing data collected from January 1993- February 2001 to demonstrate that ephedrine alkaloid dietary supplements have been associated with more deaths, myocardial infarctions, cardiac arrhythmias, hypertension, stroke, and seizure events than all other dietary supplements combined. The data according to the FDA analysis showed during this time frame there were:
3308 adverse events for all dietary supplements, 1398 of these (42%) for the ephedrine alkaloids
137 reports of death, 81 deaths (59%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
38 reports of myocardial infarction/heart attack, 32 reports (84%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
98 reports of cardiac arrhythmias, 62 (63%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
144 reports of hypertension, 91 (63%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
85 reports of stroke, 69 (81%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
121 reports of seizure, 70 (58%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
Ephedrine (Metabolife) Side Effects
Derived from an evergreen plant in Central Asia, ephedra is used as a major ingredient in sport drinks and dietary supplements. Currently, Metabolife International's diet pill is under investigation. Taking Metabolife and other ephedra products heightens alertness by stimulating the central nervous system, but products including Metabolife have been linked to deadly and serious ephedrine side effects. The FDA had been unsuccessfully trying to obtain adverse ephedrine side effects reports from the industry since at least 1997, but since the deregulation of herbal products, the figures had not been collected.
The FDA has been collecting and receiving reports of adverse ephedrine side effects since 1994, and in a September 1994 FDA Medical Bulletin, the agency reported the number was increasing. The reported reactions varied from mild ephedrine side effects to very serious conditions including:
nervousness
dizziness
tremor
alternations in blood pressure or heart rate
headache
gastrointestinal distress
chest pain
myocardial infarction
hepatitis
stroke
seizures
pyschosis
death
Since 1994, the FDA has collected reports of over 100 deaths among ephedra users such as Metabolife. Metabolife is the number one maker of ephedra supplements in the U.S. A report from the Centers for Disease Control on August 16, 1996, reported that the Bureau of Food and Drug safety, Texas Department of Health, received around 500 reports of adverse ephedrine side effects in persons that consumed the dietary supplement products. The adverse ephedrine side effects report total included reports by individuals and as identified by the Bureau of Epidemiology in a review of records from the six Texas Poison Center Network centers. The severity of the ephedrine side effects ranged, but eight ephedrine users died and reports of stroke, myocardial infarction, chest pain, and seizures were reported. The reports included patients that followed the recommended dosage.
According to a December 21, 2000 New England Journal of Medicine article, researchers consider 25 mg to be the recommended therapeutic dose that is usually given with about 200 mg of caffeine. This one dose of Metabolife quickens the heart rate, opens up the bronchial airways allowing more oxygen to become available, and constricts the blood vessels resulting in an increased blood pressure. Some Metabolife users react more strongly to ephedrine compounds whether or not they follow a recommended dosage leading to a reason why Metabolife side effects are experienced.
On October 11, 2001, Public Citizen consumer group made a statement before the National Academy of Sciences on the Framework for Evaluating the Safety of Dietary Supplements citing data collected from January 1993- February 2001 to demonstrate that ephedrine alkaloid dietary supplements have been associated with more deaths, myocardial infarctions, cardiac arrhythmias, hypertension, stroke, and seizure events than all other dietary supplements combined. The data according to the FDA analysis showed during this time frame there were:
3308 adverse events for all dietary supplements, 1398 of these (42%) for the ephedrine alkaloids
137 reports of death, 81 deaths (59%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
38 reports of myocardial infarction/heart attack, 32 reports (84%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
98 reports of cardiac arrhythmias, 62 (63%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
144 reports of hypertension, 91 (63%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
85 reports of stroke, 69 (81%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
121 reports of seizure, 70 (58%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
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DepressiveJuice
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TheDarkSideNinja said:
mods awhile ago you said that you would try to control personal insults from one EF member to the other. darksideninja has been constantly insulting other EF members.
Judah Bauer
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"Blow it out your pipes homo" ...wow that insult was almost as pathetic as your attempt to answer my question.
You posted the same bullshit ephedrine propaganda that the 700 club was spouting off the other day. Its meaningless. If there are "100's of deaths" then I ask you...show me proof of one. You won't find it. The truth is there has never been a single death attributed to ephedrine used according to directions...never.
If you still don't believe me, Darksideninja, then just show me one. Find a case where someone died as a result of using ephedrine correctly. I dare you.
You posted the same bullshit ephedrine propaganda that the 700 club was spouting off the other day. Its meaningless. If there are "100's of deaths" then I ask you...show me proof of one. You won't find it. The truth is there has never been a single death attributed to ephedrine used according to directions...never.
If you still don't believe me, Darksideninja, then just show me one. Find a case where someone died as a result of using ephedrine correctly. I dare you.
I can show you a list of "possible" side effects almost as long for everything from caffeine, to alchohol, to cigarettes, to Tylenol.
For example, any idea how fast you can ruin a liver using Tylenol that is found right in your medicine cabinet? Does that mean that this very beneficial drug should be banned? That just becuase some idiots COULD take a bunch and screw up his liver, that it should be taken off the market?
Yes, every drug of any type has SOME risks. It is a tragedy that some individuals, in rare instances, may take a drug that is otherwise safe for many many people but yet causes an adverse effect in ONE person. Thats a shame - but is it a reason to ban a potentially GOOD drug from widespread use?
One things that IS indisputable is that people being idiots and taking ridiculous doseage levels is just a train wreck waiting to happen.
In many cases where Eph seemed to be the "cause", closer investgation finds that OTHER factors were in play. Maybe the person was dehydratred, they were ill, or they took too damned much! Maybe they were a fat ass who was out of shape and popped a few and went into cardiac vapor lock.
Yeah, one could have a discussion about maybe provding better, more infoed, REAL: warnings on labels about Eph. But for anyone to take like 150 mg a day is stupid,. Just plane stupid. And I have NO sympathy for them if they croak. And I also get pissed becuase their stupdity ends up imflaming people and cuases hysteria which may take something off the market that should be available for RESPONSIBLE ADULTS to take.
By the way, for the dude who ghot personal - thats what Karma is for. I am not sayin that
everyone who reads this should now immediatley give "TheDarkSideNinja" negative karka
... for his above childish remarks, but its a thought.
For example, any idea how fast you can ruin a liver using Tylenol that is found right in your medicine cabinet? Does that mean that this very beneficial drug should be banned? That just becuase some idiots COULD take a bunch and screw up his liver, that it should be taken off the market?
Yes, every drug of any type has SOME risks. It is a tragedy that some individuals, in rare instances, may take a drug that is otherwise safe for many many people but yet causes an adverse effect in ONE person. Thats a shame - but is it a reason to ban a potentially GOOD drug from widespread use?
One things that IS indisputable is that people being idiots and taking ridiculous doseage levels is just a train wreck waiting to happen.
In many cases where Eph seemed to be the "cause", closer investgation finds that OTHER factors were in play. Maybe the person was dehydratred, they were ill, or they took too damned much! Maybe they were a fat ass who was out of shape and popped a few and went into cardiac vapor lock.
Yeah, one could have a discussion about maybe provding better, more infoed, REAL: warnings on labels about Eph. But for anyone to take like 150 mg a day is stupid,. Just plane stupid. And I have NO sympathy for them if they croak. And I also get pissed becuase their stupdity ends up imflaming people and cuases hysteria which may take something off the market that should be available for RESPONSIBLE ADULTS to take.
By the way, for the dude who ghot personal - thats what Karma is for. I am not sayin that
everyone who reads this should now immediatley give "TheDarkSideNinja" negative karka
... for his above childish remarks, but its a thought.
Judah Bauer
New member
Riker, great post. Tylenol, alcohol, and many others actually do kill quite a bit of people each year.
I'm still waiting on anyone to present one confirmed death w/ responsible use of ephedrine as the cause. They just aren't there. Ephedrine actually has a great track record for safety when used responsibly. There is a media witch hunt going on w/ E right now, so everything gets twisted around to sound like its fuckin crack....but the truth is very differnt.
I'm still waiting on anyone to present one confirmed death w/ responsible use of ephedrine as the cause. They just aren't there. Ephedrine actually has a great track record for safety when used responsibly. There is a media witch hunt going on w/ E right now, so everything gets twisted around to sound like its fuckin crack....but the truth is very differnt.
Judah Bauer
New member
Just to add...obviously there are quite a few risks w/ Ephdrine...as with anything...but when used responsibly...the truth is its very safe. Its probably as safe as caffeine for 90%+ of people that workout....the real problem usually comes when fat fucks try to take it to lose weight w/o exercise or diet and then get jittery. They give it a bad name.
TheDarkSideNinja
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Well....
Give me bad karma and see what i care. I'm not going to sit there and take shit from some people like DepressiveJuicy and his other girls who make assumptions about people. Did you all do studies on the short term and especially long term effects of Ephedra not to mention the cost versus benefit concept which obviously yall have no idea about when it comes to values that's why some of you who ignore science and work off how you feel at the time will find yourselves in the grave sooner than what should have been. And don't worry i will pull up the fukin case studies i did for a research project which show the recommended doses hurt some people. Yes alcohol, smoking, what have you I.M.O is also bullshit. I don't agree with it that's why i don't take part in it. Yes your right the govt. is fucked up but when you have friends come to you and say my heart was racing while on an Ephedra or you see some side effects such as dizziness and people passing out and having seizures then you fuckin realize the reality. And yes all them were healthy, had no prior health probs., and took recommended doses. Maybe someday it will happen to you where you see sme nice sides from this drug but im hoping it doesn't....Just remember there is no substitution for hard work and diet!!!!
Give me bad karma and see what i care. I'm not going to sit there and take shit from some people like DepressiveJuicy and his other girls who make assumptions about people. Did you all do studies on the short term and especially long term effects of Ephedra not to mention the cost versus benefit concept which obviously yall have no idea about when it comes to values that's why some of you who ignore science and work off how you feel at the time will find yourselves in the grave sooner than what should have been. And don't worry i will pull up the fukin case studies i did for a research project which show the recommended doses hurt some people. Yes alcohol, smoking, what have you I.M.O is also bullshit. I don't agree with it that's why i don't take part in it. Yes your right the govt. is fucked up but when you have friends come to you and say my heart was racing while on an Ephedra or you see some side effects such as dizziness and people passing out and having seizures then you fuckin realize the reality. And yes all them were healthy, had no prior health probs., and took recommended doses. Maybe someday it will happen to you where you see sme nice sides from this drug but im hoping it doesn't....Just remember there is no substitution for hard work and diet!!!!
TheDarkSideNinja
New member
O by the way....
Riker you can give me as much Neg. Karma as you like i already have a lot more Positive Karma it does not make a diff on what the hell you think with your childish games!! The reason i get (+) karma is for good posts!!! So my question following this is how much (+) karma have you gotten so far???
Riker you can give me as much Neg. Karma as you like i already have a lot more Positive Karma it does not make a diff on what the hell you think with your childish games!! The reason i get (+) karma is for good posts!!! So my question following this is how much (+) karma have you gotten so far???
Ninja demonstrates the possible negative side effects of too much caffeine, or Ephedrine.
LOL
Dude - what's with you? I made a point, I dont know who you are at all, and you make it personal. Wake up.
Yeah, bad things happen to good people. There are instances of people taking a regular dose and having problems. Thats sucks.
MY comments, if you took the time to actually READ instead of just walking around pissed at the world looking for an argument, was that I have no sympathy for those who take high doses and have problems. If someone does 150 mgs a day and croaks, my only comment is that "Darwin had a point".
Check this
Cars driven at 65 mhp should be safe, however there are times when someone driving at that speed gets hurt. That sucks. Thats not a reason to ban all cars, but it does suck.
Now an individual can take a care, on surface streets, and crank it up to 150 mph. There is a much much much higher chance that such a person will get hurt. THAT person is not worth my sympathy.
But none of this matters anyway, you are just looking to get pissed and yell at people.
Its people like this that cause problems at Elite I cant believe that mods have not kicked him - he is obviously just here to cuase problems.
Later.
LOL
Dude - what's with you? I made a point, I dont know who you are at all, and you make it personal. Wake up.
Yeah, bad things happen to good people. There are instances of people taking a regular dose and having problems. Thats sucks.
MY comments, if you took the time to actually READ instead of just walking around pissed at the world looking for an argument, was that I have no sympathy for those who take high doses and have problems. If someone does 150 mgs a day and croaks, my only comment is that "Darwin had a point".
Check this
Cars driven at 65 mhp should be safe, however there are times when someone driving at that speed gets hurt. That sucks. Thats not a reason to ban all cars, but it does suck.
Now an individual can take a care, on surface streets, and crank it up to 150 mph. There is a much much much higher chance that such a person will get hurt. THAT person is not worth my sympathy.
But none of this matters anyway, you are just looking to get pissed and yell at people.
Its people like this that cause problems at Elite I cant believe that mods have not kicked him - he is obviously just here to cuase problems.
Later.
TheDarkSideNinja
New member
Ummmm Riker...
Im not pissed and im not trying to start a fight here i am trying to keep people safe. It's the ones that say recommend taking a gram of test a week for your 1st 2nd or 3rd cycle that gets me...its people that recommend diets when they are not R.D's (by the way do you know there are legal implications which can be drawn upon when you give this kind of advice and hurt somebody), not to mention the use of supplements which are not even regulated by the FDA and you wanna tell people it's alright to use when there hasnt been enough studies done on the drugs for long term while people show side effects on regular use??? Then you talk about banning people? I.M.O you need to look in the mirror before judging others im here to help and learn. I only help when i have enough facts to back it up.
Im not pissed and im not trying to start a fight here i am trying to keep people safe. It's the ones that say recommend taking a gram of test a week for your 1st 2nd or 3rd cycle that gets me...its people that recommend diets when they are not R.D's (by the way do you know there are legal implications which can be drawn upon when you give this kind of advice and hurt somebody), not to mention the use of supplements which are not even regulated by the FDA and you wanna tell people it's alright to use when there hasnt been enough studies done on the drugs for long term while people show side effects on regular use??? Then you talk about banning people? I.M.O you need to look in the mirror before judging others im here to help and learn. I only help when i have enough facts to back it up.
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DepressiveJuice
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Re: Ummmm Riker...
thats fine and all but do it without any insults. do you honestly think anyone takes your advice seriously when youre posts are childish?
TheDarkSideNinja said:Im not pissed and im not trying to start a fight here i am trying to keep people safe. It's the ones that say recommend taking a gram of test a week for your 1st 2nd or 3rd cycle that gets me...its people that recommend diets when they are not R.D's (by the way do you know there are legal implications which can be drawn upon when you give this kind of advice and hurt somebody), not to mention the use of supplements which are not even regulated by the FDA and you wanna tell people it's alright to use when there hasnt been enough studies done on the drugs for long term while people show side effects on regular use??? Then you talk about banning people? I.M.O you need to look in the mirror before judging others im here to help and learn. I only help when i have enough facts to back it up.
thats fine and all but do it without any insults. do you honestly think anyone takes your advice seriously when youre posts are childish?
Judah Bauer
New member
Re: Re: Ummmm Riker...
I just got a kick out of how defensive he got when I asked he prove his claim that people died from taking the recommended dose of ephedrine. Sorry if I stuck a nerve, bro. I don't care about karma and that shit I'm just here for knowledge.
DepressiveJuice said:
I just got a kick out of how defensive he got when I asked he prove his claim that people died from taking the recommended dose of ephedrine. Sorry if I stuck a nerve, bro. I don't care about karma and that shit I'm just here for knowledge.
TheDarkSideNinja
New member
Well....
I'm here for the reason which i stated above. I didn't mean to come off as being a dick or however you guys see me but you also have to realize where im comming from. Anything i posted about Ephedra came from a wide variety of sources, experiences from people i know, school, and my personal opinion!!! Each time i post i am not trying to stir up trouble or for any matter make fun of people. But i don't wanna hear anybody got hurt or killed because they took advice from elite. People aren't always educated enough to make their own decisions and therefore come on sites like this and just listen sometimes to anything you tell them. For instance...when a newbie comes on and somebody says yes your going to need a gram of test for your 1st cycle!!! Well that right there is asking for trouble and it's not right to let that kind of b.s. take place. I think people need to grow some morals and realize without your damn health you have nada!!! Wouldn't it then make sense to use lower doses which will cause less sides which will still lead one to amazing gains??? Am i right or wrong???? Who knows i guess for some they would say wrong....
I'm here for the reason which i stated above. I didn't mean to come off as being a dick or however you guys see me but you also have to realize where im comming from. Anything i posted about Ephedra came from a wide variety of sources, experiences from people i know, school, and my personal opinion!!! Each time i post i am not trying to stir up trouble or for any matter make fun of people. But i don't wanna hear anybody got hurt or killed because they took advice from elite. People aren't always educated enough to make their own decisions and therefore come on sites like this and just listen sometimes to anything you tell them. For instance...when a newbie comes on and somebody says yes your going to need a gram of test for your 1st cycle!!! Well that right there is asking for trouble and it's not right to let that kind of b.s. take place. I think people need to grow some morals and realize without your damn health you have nada!!! Wouldn't it then make sense to use lower doses which will cause less sides which will still lead one to amazing gains??? Am i right or wrong???? Who knows i guess for some they would say wrong....
Judah Bauer
New member
Re: Well....
Its ok, just learn to take your own advice a little w/ that morals thing. no harm done. BTW I'm not telling anyone to take more ephedrine than they can handle, I posted my protocol when I use it, and challenged anyone to find me a case where someone died from taking the recommended dosage..thats all.
TheDarkSideNinja said:
Its ok, just learn to take your own advice a little w/ that morals thing. no harm done. BTW I'm not telling anyone to take more ephedrine than they can handle, I posted my protocol when I use it, and challenged anyone to find me a case where someone died from taking the recommended dosage..thats all.
Hey, jackass...get this through your THICK skull. Ephedra deaths are due to user misuse or pre-existing cardiovascular health problems; various studies have shown that ephedra is safe as long as the user is in good health beforehand, and doesn't take a ridiculous dose.
Whoever that guy was from the orioles took 3 times the recommended dosage, had pre-existing heart and liver problems, fasted for 2 days prior and wore 3 layers of clothing in 90 degree weather. GEE, I wonder why he died?
Whoever that guy was from the orioles took 3 times the recommended dosage, had pre-existing heart and liver problems, fasted for 2 days prior and wore 3 layers of clothing in 90 degree weather. GEE, I wonder why he died?
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satchboogie
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poantrex said:
drveejay11
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OMG----------this thread is absolutely hilarious! Thanks for the laughs fellas!
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Frackal
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Anyone who tries to claim ephedrine has addiction potential near that of speed/meth or cocaine is full of shit.
